• A Question Concerning the Phrase "Murder Hoboes"

    From Robert Woodward@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Apr 17 14:53:41 2024
    I have seen James Nicoll use this phrase and it just showed up in Girl
    Genius (https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20240417). Who invented it?

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  • From Mad Hamish@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Apr 17 18:22:06 2024
    On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 21:53:41 -0700, Robert Woodward
    <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:

    I have seen James Nicoll use this phrase and it just showed up in Girl >Genius (https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20240417). Who >invented it?

    It's been around the role playing groups for a long time

    https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/3djm4k/where_did_the_term_murder_hobo_originate_from/

    has several people saying they heard it in the 80s or 90s, the
    earliest records on the web seem to be rpg.net in the mid 2000s (the
    decade)

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  • From Don@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Apr 17 20:27:51 2024
    Robert Woodward wrote:
    I have seen James Nicoll use this phrase and it just showed up in Girl
    Genius (https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20240417). Who invented it?

    Is it a DnD thing, perchance?

    Shakespeare's been my own thing as of late. On its surface,
    "Murder Hoboes" seems vile enough to qualify as Hamletonian.

    Hamlet characters in DnD

    So I was making a character based on Horatio living in the
    aftermath of the tragedy, and it got me thinking about the
    different characters in Hamlet and how they could be
    described in DnD terms.

    Horatio - wizard or cleric. Wise, loyal and scholarly.
    Either an elf or a half elf, to put emphasis on the
    “outliving everyone” part

    Hamlet - Human rogue. Nat 20 sneak attack with Assassinate
    through a curtain. Nuff said.

    Ophelia - Eladrin elf Druid. There is no quick and tragic
    spiral into madness quite like one accelerated by the rage
    of nature and the seasons themselves. Also, Druidic wisdom
    that persisted even in insanity - the flowers Ophelia was
    handing out in that one scene mean specific things in flower
    language (eg the ones she gave to Gertrude mean infidelity)

    <https://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/8uuf9z/hamlet_characters_in_dnd/>

    Francis Bacon used Shakespeare as a nom de plume. HAMLET by BACON. Get
    it? Bacon could never pass up a jest. [1]

    Note.

    [1] <https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/1625jonson-bacon.asp>

    Danke,

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  • From Robert Woodward@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Apr 18 14:36:38 2024
    In article <ec1v1j50n6nu8ma5p2bv9vgchv3jav0mea@4ax.com>,
    Mad Hamish <newsunspammelaws@iinet.unspamme.net.au> wrote:

    On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 21:53:41 -0700, Robert Woodward
    <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:

    I have seen James Nicoll use this phrase and it just showed up in Girl >Genius (https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20240417). Who >invented it?

    It's been around the role playing groups for a long time

    https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/3djm4k/where_did_the_term_murder_hobo_originate_from/

    Thank you.

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    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
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    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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