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  • Re: [Tears] =?UTF-8?B?Q2hpbGRob29k4oCZcw==?= End by Arthur C. Clarke

    From Charles Packer@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Nov 15 19:45:57 2024
    On 3 Nov 2024 13:17:57 -0000, James Nicoll wrote:

    Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke

    For what purpose have the enigmatic Overlords taken control of Earth?

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/hush-dont-cry

    Are there any other examples of overlordship in SF? Defined as
    humankind placed under involuntary governance by either
    extraterrestrials or a special class of other humans, for either
    benign or malign reasons.

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  • From D@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Nov 15 20:31:59 2024
    Subject: =?ISO-8859-7?Q?Re=3A_=5BTears=5D_Childhood=A2s_End_by_Arthur_?=
    =?ISO-8859-7?Q?C=2E_Clarke?=



    On Fri, 15 Nov 2024, Charles Packer wrote:

    On 3 Nov 2024 13:17:57 -0000, James Nicoll wrote:

    Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke

    For what purpose have the enigmatic Overlords taken control of Earth?

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/hush-dont-cry

    Are there any other examples of overlordship in SF? Defined as
    humankind placed under involuntary governance by either
    extraterrestrials or a special class of other humans, for either
    benign or malign reasons.


    Well, for a fun twist on the concept, I recommend Robert Anton Wilsons Illuminatus trilogy.

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  • From James Nicoll@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Nov 16 00:58:55 2024
    In article <pan$f768$bdeea429$aec6f28b$58f43363@cpacker.org>,
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    On 3 Nov 2024 13:17:57 -0000, James Nicoll wrote:

    Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke

    For what purpose have the enigmatic Overlords taken control of Earth?

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/hush-dont-cry

    Are there any other examples of overlordship in SF? Defined as
    humankind placed under involuntary governance by either
    extraterrestrials or a special class of other humans, for either
    benign or malign reasons.

    Tons and tons, he said in the tone of someone who needed to produce eight hundred to sixteen hundred words for tor today.
    --
    My reviews can be found at http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/
    My tor pieces at https://www.tor.com/author/james-davis-nicoll/
    My Dreamwidth at https://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/
    My patreon is at https://www.patreon.com/jamesdnicoll

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Nov 16 02:54:33 2024
    Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=5BTears=5D_Childhood=E2=80=99s_End_by_Arthur_C=2E_?=
    =?UTF-8?Q?Clarke?=

    On 11/15/2024 5:58 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <pan$f768$bdeea429$aec6f28b$58f43363@cpacker.org>,
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    On 3 Nov 2024 13:17:57 -0000, James Nicoll wrote:

    Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke

    For what purpose have the enigmatic Overlords taken control of Earth?

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/hush-dont-cry

    Are there any other examples of overlordship in SF? Defined as
    humankind placed under involuntary governance by either
    extraterrestrials or a special class of other humans, for either
    benign or malign reasons.

    Tons and tons, he said in the tone of someone who needed to produce eight hundred to sixteen hundred words for tor today.

    One, two, three, four....

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Nov 16 03:24:53 2024
    Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?[Tears]_Childhood=92s?=
    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_End_by_Arthur_C._C?=
    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?larke?=

    On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 08:45:57 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer
    <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    On 3 Nov 2024 13:17:57 -0000, James Nicoll wrote:

    Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke
    =20
    For what purpose have the enigmatic Overlords taken control of Earth?
    =20
    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/hush-dont-cry

    Are there any other examples of overlordship in SF? Defined as
    humankind placed under involuntary governance by either
    extraterrestrials or a special class of other humans, for either
    benign or malign reasons.

    Among others, Silverberg's /The Alien Years/.

    Warning: the aliens come, Our Heroes react, things get interesting and
    then ... it just ends. This is why I found it in Half Price Books for
    $7.58 (nice thick hardcover, purchased in 1999) and disposed of it a
    decade later. (For books, I either sold it back to Half Price Books,
    donated it to a library, or put it in a drop-off box for someone else
    to decide what to with it. I only recycle books that have literally
    fallen apart.)

    But it /was/ a good read while it lasted.
    --=20
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Nov 16 07:36:59 2024
    Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=5BTears=5D_Childhood=E2=80=99s_End_by_Arthur_C=2E_?=
    =?UTF-8?Q?Clarke?=

    On 11/15/2024 9:54 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/15/2024 5:58 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <pan$f768$bdeea429$aec6f28b$58f43363@cpacker.org>,
    Charles Packerÿ <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    On 3 Nov 2024 13:17:57 -0000, James Nicoll wrote:

    Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke

    For what purpose have the enigmatic Overlords taken control of Earth?

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/hush-dont-cry

    Are there any other examples of overlordship in SF? Defined as
    humankind placed under involuntary governance by either
    extraterrestrials or a special class of other humans, for either
    benign or malign reasons.

    Tons and tons, he said in the tone of someone who needed to produce eight
    hundred to sixteen hundred words for tor today.

    One, two, three, four....

    16 more fingers and toes to go. That is, assuming that James has all of
    his fingers and toes.

    Lynn


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  • From Charles Packer@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Nov 16 20:00:18 2024
    On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:58:55 -0000 (UTC), James Nicoll wrote:

    In article <pan$f768$bdeea429$aec6f28b$58f43363@cpacker.org>,
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    On 3 Nov 2024 13:17:57 -0000, James Nicoll wrote:

    Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke

    For what purpose have the enigmatic Overlords taken control of Earth?

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/hush-dont-cry

    Are there any other examples of overlordship in SF? Defined as humankind >>placed under involuntary governance by either extraterrestrials or a >>special class of other humans, for either benign or malign reasons.

    Tons and tons, he said in the tone of someone who needed to produce
    eight hundred to sixteen hundred words for tor today.

    OK. While I look up the titles that were given, I thought of a
    qualification that could narrow things down. There has to be a
    message to humans that the overlordship is for the good of
    humanity -- whether of not the overlords mean it. This would
    exclude stories simply of opression by a superclass.


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  • From Scott Dorsey@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Nov 18 12:33:00 2024
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    Are there any other examples of overlordship in SF? Defined as
    humankind placed under involuntary governance by either
    extraterrestrials or a special class of other humans, for either
    benign or malign reasons.

    It's entirely voluntary in To Serve Man.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Scott Dorsey@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Nov 18 18:00:40 2024
    Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=5BTears=5D_Childhood=E2=80=99s_End_by_Arthur_C=2E_?=
    =?UTF-8?Q?Clarke?=

    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/15/2024 9:54 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/15/2024 5:58 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <pan$f768$bdeea429$aec6f28b$58f43363@cpacker.org>,
    Charles Packer  <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    On 3 Nov 2024 13:17:57 -0000, James Nicoll wrote:

    Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke

    For what purpose have the enigmatic Overlords taken control of Earth? >>>>>
    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/hush-dont-cry

    Are there any other examples of overlordship in SF? Defined as
    humankind placed under involuntary governance by either
    extraterrestrials or a special class of other humans, for either
    benign or malign reasons.

    Tons and tons, he said in the tone of someone who needed to produce eight >>> hundred to sixteen hundred words for tor today.

    One, two, three, four....

    16 more fingers and toes to go. That is, assuming that James has all of
    his fingers and toes.

    Against the Fall of Night and City and the Stars, except that the overlords have disappeared and left us alone but we didn't notice.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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