• Poseidon's Wake. Alastair Reynolds.

    From Titus G@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Nov 19 16:26:13 2024
    On 10/10/24 11:17, Tony Nance wrote:
    On 10/8/24 12:42 AM, Titus G wrote:
    On 9/09/24 14:07, Tony Nance wrote:
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    On 9/4/24 1:56 AM, Titus G wrote:
    Blue Remembered Earth. Alastair Reynolds. 2012
    snip

    I read this back in May, and didn't enjoy
    it as much as you did. The setting and science were great. My main >>>>>>> problems were with the characters, but since the next one seems to >>>>>>> share
    very few characters (if any) with this one, I plan to give it a try. >>>>>>

    I am over halfway through the next one, On the Steel Breeze. Events and
    science still outweigh characterisation. Whoops! They are mainly still
    around but not Geoffrey, nor the cousins and some play minimal roles.
    One is over three hundred and another is two hundred and forty but
    Geoffrey did not take prolongation treatment. Even grandma Eunice is
    sort of there but in a robotic format with simulated mind. Following
    your criticism regarding the richness of the characters, I have paid
    more attention to this aspect and really couldn't tell anyone anything
    much about them but this is not detracting from my enjoyment of the book
    for the same reasons as Blue Remembered Earth even without the novelty.
    I could probably describe characters from Garry Disher's pot boilers
    better :-)

    That's all good to know - thanks. Unless there are some rather drastic differences, I believe I'll be better prepared to read the second one.
    More specifically, I believe the characters won't bug me as much, even
    if they turn out to be similar.

    Tony

    It would be an injustice to attempt to summarise this trilogy and I am
    sure that a synopsis could easily be found elsewhere so I won't attempt
    to do so.
    I was pleasantly surprised by the final novel, Poseidon's Wake, which introduced new conflicts between science and 'religion' as well as
    exacerbating the continuing conflict between humans, intelligent
    machines and the two alien technologies. I enjoyed it perhaps more than
    the first two but was always worried about how it would all be tied up.
    The last 50 or 60 pages were somewhat dull and banal but the journey to
    get there, 700 plus pages, was brilliant. I love his writing and his
    extensive scientific or pseudo scientific, (eg; infovore, a combination
    of information and carnivore), vocabulary. The scope is just massive
    covering huge distances across galaxies and more hundreds of years. The
    Akinya family is still prominent with grandchildren from those in "On
    the Steel Breeze" major characters but again events are more important
    than character development. My main criticism of the characters was that
    they were all too noble, too ethical as were the machine intelligences
    as well as the elephants, (the dedication reads, "For my wife, who once
    fell in love with an elephant.").
    Another solid four stars.


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  • From Tony Nance@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Nov 23 07:55:47 2024
    On 11/19/24 12:26 AM, Titus G wrote:
    On 10/10/24 11:17, Tony Nance wrote:
    On 10/8/24 12:42 AM, Titus G wrote:
    On 9/09/24 14:07, Tony Nance wrote:
    snip
    On 9/4/24 1:56 AM, Titus G wrote:
    Blue Remembered Earth. Alastair Reynolds. 2012
    snip

    I read this back in May, and didn't enjoy
    it as much as you did. The setting and science were great. My main >>>>>>>> problems were with the characters, but since the next one seems to >>>>>>>> share
    very few characters (if any) with this one, I plan to give it a try. >>>>>>>

    I am over halfway through the next one, On the Steel Breeze. Events and
    science still outweigh characterisation. Whoops! They are mainly still
    around but not Geoffrey, nor the cousins and some play minimal roles.
    One is over three hundred and another is two hundred and forty but
    Geoffrey did not take prolongation treatment. Even grandma Eunice is
    sort of there but in a robotic format with simulated mind. Following
    your criticism regarding the richness of the characters, I have paid
    more attention to this aspect and really couldn't tell anyone anything
    much about them but this is not detracting from my enjoyment of the book >>> for the same reasons as Blue Remembered Earth even without the novelty.
    I could probably describe characters from Garry Disher's pot boilers
    better :-)

    That's all good to know - thanks. Unless there are some rather drastic
    differences, I believe I'll be better prepared to read the second one.
    More specifically, I believe the characters won't bug me as much, even
    if they turn out to be similar.

    Tony

    It would be an injustice to attempt to summarise this trilogy and I am
    sure that a synopsis could easily be found elsewhere so I won't attempt
    to do so.
    I was pleasantly surprised by the final novel, Poseidon's Wake, which introduced new conflicts between science and 'religion' as well as exacerbating the continuing conflict between humans, intelligent
    machines and the two alien technologies. I enjoyed it perhaps more than
    the first two but was always worried about how it would all be tied up.
    The last 50 or 60 pages were somewhat dull and banal but the journey to
    get there, 700 plus pages, was brilliant. I love his writing and his extensive scientific or pseudo scientific, (eg; infovore, a combination
    of information and carnivore), vocabulary. The scope is just massive
    covering huge distances across galaxies and more hundreds of years. The Akinya family is still prominent with grandchildren from those in "On
    the Steel Breeze" major characters but again events are more important
    than character development. My main criticism of the characters was that
    they were all too noble, too ethical as were the machine intelligences
    as well as the elephants, (the dedication reads, "For my wife, who once
    fell in love with an elephant.").
    Another solid four stars.


    Thanks for all of that. On the Steel Breeze is in the short stack, for
    near future consumption, but I've been in quite a reading drought
    recently[1], and I can't guess when I'll get to it.

    Tony
    [1] I do typically have a slow-down in my reading from Sep - Nov/Dec,
    but this year seems worse than previous years. <shrug> Whether it is or
    it isn't, I'll probably come out of it over the next month or so.


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