“But since they have been pretty consistent in their own alarmism about the loss of sea ice, it should be an important data point that current levels of sea ice exceed levels recorded in the very first year of
tracking them — 1981.”
On 21/07/2025 23:00, Lynn McGuire wrote:
“But since they have been pretty consistent in their own alarmism about >> the loss of sea ice, it should be an important data point that current
levels of sea ice exceed levels recorded in the very first year of
tracking them — 1981.”
Whoever runs that site is guilty of some pretty obvious cherrypicking
of their figures.
The graphs are available for five areas - Eastern Arctic, East Coast,
Hudson Bay, Western Arctic and Great Lakes. In four of those five, ice >coverage is well below 1981 levels. Failing to point this out is heavily >disingenuous at best.
From https://iceweb1.cis.ec.gc.ca/Prod/page1.xhtml
pick "Ice Cover Graph", "Ice Cover Graph - Historical Total Accumulated
Ice Coverage" and "All"
If anyone's interested in what the Met Office has to say, complete with >graphs covering the same period, you can look here:
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/approach/monitoring/sea-ice/2025/briefing-on-arctic-and-antarctic-sea-ice---july-2025
=93Latest Arctic Ice Measurements Are In! =97 Someone Get Al Gore A = Tissue=94=20
=20
https://clashdaily.com/2025/07/latest-arctic-ice-measurements-are-in-som= eone-get-al-gore-a-tissue/
=93Before that, Al Gore had confidently predicted that the sea ice would=
be gone in just a few years, both in his =91documentary=92 (the one that==20
lost some court battles concerning its claims) and his =91Day After=20 >Tomorrow=92 cataclysm movie where the polar ice slid into the ocean,=20 >causing New York to freeze over.=94
“Latest Arctic Ice Measurements Are In! — Someone Get Al Gore A Tissue”
https://clashdaily.com/2025/07/latest-arctic-ice-measurements-are-in-someone-get-al-gore-a-tissue/
“Before that, Al Gore had confidently predicted that the sea ice would
be gone in just a few years, both in his ‘documentary’ (the one that lost some court battles concerning its claims) and his ‘Day After Tomorrow’ cataclysm movie where the polar ice slid into the ocean,
causing New York to freeze over.”
On 22/07/2025 17:07, Paul S Person wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 17:00:42 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
rCLLatest Arctic Ice Measurements Are In! rCo Someone Get Al Gore A TissuerCY
https://clashdaily.com/2025/07/latest-arctic-ice-measurements-are-in-someone-get-al-gore-a-tissue/
rCLBefore that, Al Gore had confidently predicted that the sea ice would >>> be gone in just a few years, both in his rCydocumentaryrCO (the one that >>> lost some court battles concerning its claims) and his rCyDay After
TomorrowrCO cataclysm movie where the polar ice slid into the ocean,
causing New York to freeze over.rCY
<snippo nonsense others have addressed>
/The Day After Tomorrow/ came out two years before /An Inconvient
Truth/. Gore appears to have had nothing to do with the former.
And /The Day After Tomorrow/ contains no "polar ice slid[ing] into the
ocean". New York -- indeed the Northern half of the USA -- does indeed
freeze over, however.
So here's the question: here we have a site that cannot even get its
movies right. Why should we trust them to get anything else right?
("right" here meaning "correct", BTW)
North polar ice was, and, what remains, is in
the ocean already. If the ice on Greenland and
on Antarctica (and at the south pole) slips into
thevsea more than it already has, then New York City
may get quite wet. Which can happen already on a
windy day. Ice is less likely.
I don't see a reason to argue that the rest of what
Lynn quoted is anything other than nonsensical lies.
On 9/4/2025 9:48 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> writes:
On 22/07/2025 17:07, Paul S Person wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 17:00:42 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
rCLLatest Arctic Ice Measurements Are In! rCo Someone Get Al Gore A TissuerCY
https://clashdaily.com/2025/07/latest-arctic-ice-measurements-are-in-someone-get-al-gore-a-tissue/
rCLBefore that, Al Gore had confidently predicted that the sea ice would >>>>> be gone in just a few years, both in his rCydocumentaryrCO (the one that >>>>> lost some court battles concerning its claims) and his rCyDay After
TomorrowrCO cataclysm movie where the polar ice slid into the ocean, >>>>> causing New York to freeze over.rCY
<snippo nonsense others have addressed>
/The Day After Tomorrow/ came out two years before /An Inconvient
Truth/. Gore appears to have had nothing to do with the former.
And /The Day After Tomorrow/ contains no "polar ice slid[ing] into the >>>> ocean". New York -- indeed the Northern half of the USA -- does indeed >>>> freeze over, however.
So here's the question: here we have a site that cannot even get its
movies right. Why should we trust them to get anything else right?
("right" here meaning "correct", BTW)
North polar ice was, and, what remains, is in
the ocean already. If the ice on Greenland and
on Antarctica (and at the south pole) slips into
thevsea more than it already has, then New York City
may get quite wet. Which can happen already on a
windy day. Ice is less likely.
I don't see a reason to argue that the rest of what
Lynn quoted is anything other than nonsensical lies.
Lynn makes his living from fossil fuels. It's not in his
best interest to care about the rest of the planet, so long
has his customers can extract more money from the
exploitation of a fundamentally limited resource.
He's about to reach 65, one might think he'd be concerned
about the world he is leaving to his child, but since
he owns his business, it's likely he'll continue to
ignore science and continue parroting nonsense from
right-wing garbage sites.
I've been 65 for quite a while now. And I have more than one child.
And you keep on listening to the crazies like Mann
and the rest of them
while me and mine are keeping the lights on.
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