• Re: New weapon unveiled.

    From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 5 18:30:03 2025
    On 10/5/2025 2:55 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 10/4/2025 2:52 AM, Thomas Koenig wrote:
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> schrieb:
    On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 14:36:44 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    ÿÿÿÿI visualize a capacitor of high density charged by squeezing a
    lever
    that compresses a piezo-electric device that provides quite a lot more >>>> power than
    you can get from D cells.ÿ It discharges though the advanced circuitry >>>> that will
    do what the circuitry in the present day plasma drill does.

    ÿÿÿÿI am just pleased that I am living long enough to see the plasma
    drill.

    I confess I always wondered about those Star Trek phasers that could
    vaporize an entire human being as opposed to blowing a lethal size
    hole in him.

    They didn't vaporize, or everybody in the room would have been
    choking on the fumes.ÿ The creators of the show just chose whatever
    special effect was cheapest.

    My headcanon was that the beams were transporter beams, with no
    receiver specified - whatever the transporters send just gets lost
    in a large area of space.

    Wrong sound effect then. :P

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    dirty old man.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 5 21:07:03 2025


    On 10/5/25 09:31, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 13:32:04 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 10/4/2025 9:40 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote or quoted:
    I did some calculations years ago and determined that if phasers
    converted a human sized target into energy it would release roughly the >>>> equivalent of a 2 GIGAton nuclear bomb IIRC.

    You might be working off a false either-or between something
    with mass, like a human body, and energy when you write

    converted a human sized target into energy

    . Anything with mass already /is/ energy (a form of energy).

    ~200 lbs converted to joules (or whatever it is in E=MC2).

    And even if phasers are "just" breaking all the chemical bonds in the
    atoms in a body, that's just the same as a theoretically perfectly
    efficient conventional explosive since that is exactly what they do.
    How big a bang do you get from ~200 lb of Simtec or C4 or some other
    explosive like that. Now multiply _that_ by some large number because
    conventional explosives don't break EVERY chemical bond when they detonate.

    This is, of course, the sort of reasoning that prevents Dracula from
    turning into a normal-sized bat (boom!). Or back again (where does the
    energy come from?)

    Well like Superman, Dracula is a magical creature. Dracula's nature is assumed
    because of his human prey to be demonic or specifically a demon has
    replaced the
    assumed soul of Dracula. Where did the Universe come from? Someplace else
    and that is where Dracula mass/energy is assumed to reside.

    Where does Superman's extremely strength and durability come from probably
    the same place or some place very similar. Oh for the thrilling days of yesteryear when
    we assumed that growing up on a much more dense planet could confer
    super powers.

    bliss - it is actually in the ink the artist uses.

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  • From Jerry Brown@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 6 08:20:13 2025
    On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 18:30:03 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 10/5/2025 2:55 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 10/4/2025 2:52 AM, Thomas Koenig wrote:
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> schrieb:
    On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 14:36:44 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    ????I visualize a capacitor of high density charged by squeezing a
    lever
    that compresses a piezo-electric device that provides quite a lot more >>>>> power than
    you can get from D cells.? It discharges though the advanced circuitry >>>>> that will
    do what the circuitry in the present day plasma drill does.

    ????I am just pleased that I am living long enough to see the plasma >>>>> drill.

    I confess I always wondered about those Star Trek phasers that could
    vaporize an entire human being as opposed to blowing a lethal size
    hole in him.

    They didn't vaporize, or everybody in the room would have been
    choking on the fumes.? The creators of the show just chose whatever
    special effect was cheapest.

    My headcanon was that the beams were transporter beams, with no
    receiver specified - whatever the transporters send just gets lost
    in a large area of space.

    Wrong sound effect then. :P

    There was a TNG episode which featured handweapons initially presumed
    to be disintegrators, which actually turned out to be transporters
    (but obvious to the viewer that this would turn out to be the case,
    since Picard was the victim).

    --
    Jerry Brown

    A cat may look at a king
    (but probably won't bother)

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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 6 09:15:37 2025
    On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 21:07:03 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/5/25 09:31, Paul S Person wrote:

    <snippo>

    This is, of course, the sort of reasoning that prevents Dracula from
    turning into a normal-sized bat (boom!). Or back again (where does the
    energy come from?)

    Well like Superman, Dracula is a magical creature. Dracula's nature is
    assumed
    because of his human prey to be demonic or specifically a demon has
    replaced the
    assumed soul of Dracula. Where did the Universe come from? Someplace
    else
    and that is where Dracula mass/energy is assumed to reside.

    Maybe in your reality. Or Dante's.

    In Bram Stoker's reality, he is nothing of the sort. He is nosferatu,
    the Undead.

    Where does Superman's extremely strength and durability come from
    probably
    the same place or some place very similar. Oh for the thrilling days of

    yesteryear when
    we assumed that growing up on a much more dense planet could confer
    super powers.

    Actually, it's the yellow sun. But I'm sure the body scaled for a
    heavier gravity helps.

    And Superman grew up on Earth. Supergirl grew up on Krypton. Yet they
    have similar powers under the same yellow sun.

    I suggest watching the animated movie /Justice League: Flashpoint
    Paradox/ -- and carefully consider how Superman is treated.

    But not the live-action film /Flashpoint/. It takes the basic idea but
    uses it to tell a very different story.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Titus G@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 7 17:24:21 2025
    On 6/10/25 17:07, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    snip
    ÿÿÿÿWhere does Superman's extremely strength and durability come from probably
    the same place or some place very similar.ÿ Oh for the thrilling days of yesteryear when
    we assumed that growing up on a much more dense planet could confer
    super powers.

    ÿÿÿÿbliss - it is actually in the ink the artist uses.

    They were thrilling days for me as well. Gravity might explain his
    ability to leap over tall buildings but where does the super power come
    from that prevents everything from sliding from tables, or drinks from spilling, inside the tall buildings he sometimes carries in one
    outstretched palm under one sharp corner whilst flying?
    (The colour of a sun will not be accepted as a scientific answer!)

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 6 22:02:41 2025
    On 10/6/2025 9:24 PM, Titus G wrote:
    On 6/10/25 17:07, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    snip
    ÿÿÿÿWhere does Superman's extremely strength and durability come from
    probably
    the same place or some place very similar.ÿ Oh for the thrilling days of
    yesteryear when
    we assumed that growing up on a much more dense planet could confer
    super powers.

    ÿÿÿÿbliss - it is actually in the ink the artist uses.

    They were thrilling days for me as well. Gravity might explain his
    ability to leap over tall buildings but where does the super power come
    from that prevents everything from sliding from tables, or drinks from spilling, inside the tall buildings he sometimes carries in one
    outstretched palm under one sharp corner whilst flying?
    (The colour of a sun will not be accepted as a scientific answer!)

    Contact telekinesis.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 6 22:06:06 2025


    On 10/6/25 21:24, Titus G wrote:
    On 6/10/25 17:07, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    snip
    ÿÿÿÿWhere does Superman's extremely strength and durability come from
    probably
    the same place or some place very similar.ÿ Oh for the thrilling days of
    yesteryear when
    we assumed that growing up on a much more dense planet could confer
    super powers.

    ÿÿÿÿbliss - it is actually in the ink the artist uses.

    They were thrilling days for me as well. Gravity might explain his
    ability to leap over tall buildings but where does the super power come
    from that prevents everything from sliding from tables, or drinks from spilling, inside the tall buildings he sometimes carries in one
    outstretched palm under one sharp corner whilst flying?
    (The colour of a sun will not be accepted as a scientific answer!)

    Magic in the ink the artists use is the secret.
    Some of the movies have demonstrated what battles between Superpowered
    people and super-powered aliens can do to nice modern cities.
    Magic is his vunerability as well as I well remember from the earliest case
    of the rude little goblin with an unpronounceable name who used to show up
    to bedevil younger Kal-El.



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  • From Michael Ikeda@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 7 13:24:57 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in news:10c26te$o72a$1@dont-email.me:

    On 10/6/2025 9:24 PM, Titus G wrote:
    On 6/10/25 17:07, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    snip
    ÿÿÿÿWhere does Superman's extremely strength and
    durability come from
    probably
    the same place or some place very similar.ÿ Oh for the
    thrilling days of yesteryear when
    we assumed that growing up on a much more dense planet could
    confer super powers.

    ÿÿÿÿbliss - it is actually in the ink the artist uses.

    They were thrilling days for me as well. Gravity might explain
    his ability to leap over tall buildings but where does the
    super power come from that prevents everything from sliding
    from tables, or drinks from spilling, inside the tall buildings
    he sometimes carries in one outstretched palm under one sharp
    corner whilst flying? (The colour of a sun will not be accepted
    as a scientific answer!)

    Contact telekinesis.


    In his recent book "The Physics of Superheroes Goes Hollywood"
    James Kakalios argues (expanding on a suggestion from physicist Ben
    Tippett) that the "miracle exception" you need for Superman's
    powers is the ability to alter inertia (both his own and that of
    other objects, including objects at some distance).

    ("Miracle exception" is Kakalio's term for the change in the laws
    of physics needed to account for a superhero's powers.)

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  • From Don_from_AZ@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 7 07:51:03 2025
    Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes:

    On 10/6/25 21:24, Titus G wrote:
    On 6/10/25 17:07, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    snip
    ÿÿÿÿWhere does Superman's extremely strength and durability come from
    probably
    the same place or some place very similar.ÿ Oh for the thrilling days of >>> yesteryear when
    we assumed that growing up on a much more dense planet could confer
    super powers.

    ÿÿÿÿbliss - it is actually in the ink the artist uses.
    They were thrilling days for me as well. Gravity might explain his
    ability to leap over tall buildings but where does the super power come
    from that prevents everything from sliding from tables, or drinks from
    spilling, inside the tall buildings he sometimes carries in one
    outstretched palm under one sharp corner whilst flying?
    (The colour of a sun will not be accepted as a scientific answer!)

    Magic in the ink the artists use is the secret.
    Some of the movies have demonstrated what battles between Superpowered
    people and super-powered aliens can do to nice modern cities.
    Magic is his vunerability as well as I well remember from the earliest case
    of the rude little goblin with an unpronounceable name who used to show up
    to bedevil younger Kal-El.




    Mister Mxyzptlk?

    --
    -Don_from_AZ-

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 7 08:29:22 2025


    On 10/7/25 07:51, Don_from_AZ wrote:
    Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes:

    On 10/6/25 21:24, Titus G wrote:
    On 6/10/25 17:07, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    snip
    ÿÿÿÿWhere does Superman's extremely strength and durability come from >>>> probably
    the same place or some place very similar.ÿ Oh for the thrilling days of >>>> yesteryear when
    we assumed that growing up on a much more dense planet could confer
    super powers.

    ÿÿÿÿbliss - it is actually in the ink the artist uses.
    They were thrilling days for me as well. Gravity might explain his
    ability to leap over tall buildings but where does the super power come
    from that prevents everything from sliding from tables, or drinks from
    spilling, inside the tall buildings he sometimes carries in one
    outstretched palm under one sharp corner whilst flying?
    (The colour of a sun will not be accepted as a scientific answer!)

    Magic in the ink the artists use is the secret.
    Some of the movies have demonstrated what battles between Superpowered >> people and super-powered aliens can do to nice modern cities.
    Magic is his vunerability as well as I well remember from the earliest case
    of the rude little goblin with an unpronounceable name who used to show up >> to bedevil younger Kal-El.


    Mister Mxyzptlk?

    I believe so but i have always had problems with the spelling.
    I think he shows up with the Joker in a more recent story line
    helping the Joker reshape reality so that Joker can win once in a while
    and to bedevil those overserious chaps, Bruce Wayne and Kal-El. Even
    Mister Mxyzptlk gets fed up with the Joker and leaves him flat, to the
    best of my recollection.

    You do know that the first conception of Superman made him a bald
    villain but no one wanted a super telepathic villain so the creators changed
    to the more positive side of the story and cut out the telepathy for
    a while.
    The bald villain returned with Lex Luthor and Brainiac of course.

    bliss - magic in the ink of course

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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 7 09:04:25 2025
    On 7 Oct 2025 14:03:11 GMT, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote:

    Michael Ikeda <mmikeda@erols.com> wrote or quoted:
    ("Miracle exception" is Kakalio's term for the change in the laws
    of physics needed to account for a superhero's powers.)

    The Greek "ta physika" means "natural things".

    Well, "the natural things", actually. This, of course became Physics.

    But what is really interesting is that, when the books were arranged,
    the /next/ book was "ta meta ta physika" -- which became Metaphysics.

    Ah, metaphysics -- as indescribable now as it was then.

    Well, if it had been describable then it would have had an actual
    /name/, wouldn't it. Not just "the book after ta physika", which
    merely denotes it's position..
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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