• Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous

    From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 14 16:08:24 2025
    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    Lynn


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  • From Thomas Koenig@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 14 21:16:51 2025
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> schrieb:
    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    17576 TLAs, but 456976 ETLAs.

    The problem is when these namespaces run out.
    --
    This USENET posting was made without artificial intelligence,
    artificial impertinence, artificial arrogance, artificial stupidity,
    artificial flavorings or artificial colorants.

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  • From Mark Jackson@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 14 17:31:17 2025
    On 10/14/2025 5:08 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    ÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    It's an initialism, not an acronym. He didn't pronounce it as a word;
    he spelled it out.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand.
    - Mark Twain

    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Jay Morris@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 14 20:13:06 2025
    On 10/14/2025 4:31 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 10/14/2025 5:08 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    ÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    It's an initialism, not an acronym.ÿ He didn't pronounce it as a word;
    he spelled it out.


    On 10/14/2025 4:31 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 10/14/2025 5:08 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    It's an initialism, not an acronym. He didn't pronounce it as a word;
    he spelled it out.

    That may be a battle we're losing although I'm fighting it hard.

    From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym

    What is the difference between an acronym and an initialism?

    Both acronyms and initialisms are made up of the first letter or letters
    of the words in a phrase. The word acronym typically applies when the resulting thing can be read as a word; for example, radar comes from
    "radio detection and ranging" and scuba comes from "self-contained
    underwater breathing apparatus." The word initialism only applies when
    the resulting thing is read as an abbreviation; for example DIY, which
    comes from "do it yourself," is pronounced by saying the names of the
    letters. Note that the word acronym is also sometimes used to mean "initialism."

    M-W used to have a hard line between the two.



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  • From Charles Packer@3:633/10 to All on Wed Oct 15 07:44:18 2025
    On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 20:13:06 -0500, Jay Morris wrote:

    On 10/14/2025 4:31 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 10/14/2025 5:08 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    ÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    It's an initialism, not an acronym.ÿ He didn't pronounce it as a word;
    he spelled it out.


    On 10/14/2025 4:31 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 10/14/2025 5:08 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    It's an initialism, not an acronym. He didn't pronounce it as a
    word;
    he spelled it out.

    That may be a battle we're losing although I'm fighting it hard.

    From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym

    What is the difference between an acronym and an initialism?

    Both acronyms and initialisms are made up of the first letter or letters
    of the words in a phrase. The word acronym typically applies when the resulting thing can be read as a word; for example, radar comes from
    "radio detection and ranging" and scuba comes from "self-contained
    underwater breathing apparatus." The word initialism only applies when
    the resulting thing is read as an abbreviation; for example DIY, which
    comes from "do it yourself," is pronounced by saying the names of the letters. Note that the word acronym is also sometimes used to mean "initialism."

    Google NGram shows that once usage of "acronym" took off exponentially "initialism" was left in the dust.


    M-W used to have a hard line between the two.


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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Cryptoengineer@3:633/10 to All on Wed Oct 15 12:06:19 2025
    On 10/14/2025 9:13 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
    On 10/14/2025 4:31 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 10/14/2025 5:08 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    ÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    It's an initialism, not an acronym.ÿ He didn't pronounce it as a word;
    he spelled it out.


    On 10/14/2025 4:31 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 10/14/2025 5:08 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    ÿÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    It's an initialism, not an acronym.ÿ He didn't pronounce it as a word;
    he spelled it out.

    That may be a battle we're losing although I'm fighting it hard.

    We don't know if he spelled it out or not.

    I've heard the term spoken as 'woo-eee', within
    the last week or so, in discussions of wildfire
    preparedness.

    The joke wouldn't have worked with just WUI, so
    the artist added the periods to make it clear.

    pt

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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Wed Oct 15 09:08:20 2025
    On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 16:08:24 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    I'm constantly encountering new ones when I read the News app.
    Sometimes I look them up, sometimes I make up my own phrase. Depending
    on how much I care, given the content of the story.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Mark Jackson@3:633/10 to All on Wed Oct 15 13:32:02 2025
    On 10/15/2025 12:06 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 10/14/2025 9:13 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
    On 10/14/2025 4:31 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 10/14/2025 5:08 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    ÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    It's an initialism, not an acronym.ÿ He didn't pronounce it as a
    word; he spelled it out.


    On 10/14/2025 4:31 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 10/14/2025 5:08 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    ÿÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    It's an initialism, not an acronym.ÿ He didn't pronounce it as a word;
    he spelled it out.

    That may be a battle we're losing although I'm fighting it hard.

    We don't know if he spelled it out or not.

    I'm inclined to believe the cartoonist, whose intent is shown by the
    period after each letter.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand.
    - Mark Twain

    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Wed Oct 15 18:04:38 2025
    On 10/15/2025 11:08 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 16:08:24 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Crackshaft: Acronym Anonymous
    https://www.gocomics.com/crankshaft/2025/10/14

    Yes, there are way too many acronyms nowadays.

    I'm constantly encountering new ones when I read the News app.
    Sometimes I look them up, sometimes I make up my own phrase. Depending
    on how much I care, given the content of the story.

    I run into new and strange acronyms every day while working on
    engineering chemical process plants.

    Lynn


    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 17 09:30:48 2025
    On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 20:13:06 -0500, Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me>
    wrote:

    Both acronyms and initialisms are made up of the first letter or letters
    of the words in a phrase. The word acronym typically applies when the >resulting thing can be read as a word; for example, radar comes from
    "radio detection and ranging" and scuba comes from "self-contained >underwater breathing apparatus." The word initialism only applies when
    the resulting thing is read as an abbreviation; for example DIY, which
    comes from "do it yourself," is pronounced by saying the names of the >letters. Note that the word acronym is also sometimes used to mean >"initialism."

    M-W used to have a hard line between the two.

    So if I refer to CPOC as "see-pee-oh-see" it's an 'initialism' but if
    as "see-pock" it's an acronym - have I got it right? (It's the
    initials of a non-American political party)

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 17 18:03:03 2025
    On 2025-10-15, Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me> wrote:

    That may be a battle we're losing although I'm fighting it hard.

    From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym

    Also, _The American Heritage Dictionary_:

    Usage Note: In strict usage, the term acronym refers to a word
    made from the initial letters or parts of other words, such as
    sonar from so(und) na(vigation and) r(anging). The distinguishing
    feature of an acronym is that it is pronounced as if it were a
    single word, in the manner of NATO and NASA. Acronyms are often
    distinguished from initialisms like FBI and NIH, whose individual
    letters are pronounced as separate syllables. While observing
    this distinction has some virtue in precision, it may be lost on
    many people, for whom the term acronym refers to both kinds of
    abbreviations.

    https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=acronym

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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  • From Jay Morris@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 17 13:55:55 2025
    On 10/17/2025 11:30 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 20:13:06 -0500, Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me>
    wrote:

    Both acronyms and initialisms are made up of the first letter or letters
    of the words in a phrase. The word acronym typically applies when the
    resulting thing can be read as a word; for example, radar comes from
    "radio detection and ranging" and scuba comes from "self-contained
    underwater breathing apparatus." The word initialism only applies when
    the resulting thing is read as an abbreviation; for example DIY, which
    comes from "do it yourself," is pronounced by saying the names of the
    letters. Note that the word acronym is also sometimes used to mean
    "initialism."

    M-W used to have a hard line between the two.

    So if I refer to CPOC as "see-pee-oh-see" it's an 'initialism' but if
    as "see-pock" it's an acronym - have I got it right? (It's the
    initials of a non-American political party)

    I would think so but do people actually use both? I rarely see/hear ones
    that people use both ways. I have never heard USAA (my insurance)
    pronounced US-AH or NASA as en-a-ess-a. The exception for me would be
    asap. I learned it in the army as A-SAP and it meant "What? You haven't already done it?" But in the last couple decades I hear it as
    a-ess-a-pee and it means as soon as you can.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 18 09:15:03 2025
    On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 18:03:03 -0000 (UTC), Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:

    On 2025-10-15, Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me> wrote:

    That may be a battle we're losing although I'm fighting it hard.

    From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym

    Also, _The American Heritage Dictionary_:

    Usage Note: In strict usage, the term acronym refers to a word
    made from the initial letters or parts of other words, such as
    sonar from so(und) na(vigation and) r(anging). The distinguishing
    feature of an acronym is that it is pronounced as if it were a
    single word, in the manner of NATO and NASA. Acronyms are often
    distinguished from initialisms like FBI and NIH, whose individual
    letters are pronounced as separate syllables. While observing
    this distinction has some virtue in precision, it may be lost on
    many people, for whom the term acronym refers to both kinds of
    abbreviations.

    https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=acronym

    Exactly.

    It exists only to distinguish the elite few from the unwashed masses.

    Hyperintellectualism run amok.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)