Haven't read him, but I had always assumed he was a guy who had found a
grift and was milking it. So he actually believed this stuff?
I suspect that EvD was more interested in the income from the
books than the contents thereof.
|Young woman: Not the Bermuda Triangle either? Surely you're
|not going to deny that . . .
Christian Weisgerber wrote:
RIP, Erich von D?niken (1935-2026), Swiss writer who became anI believe that SF writers got there first. But in those stories the
international bestselling author by opportunistically writing about
fringe and pseudoscience topics. He popularized the idea that early
human cultures were visited by extraterrestrials who helped build
monumental works and became revered as gods; a concept that was
picked up numerous times by science fiction writers.
aliens were more clever, passing on information rather than building
useless objects.
Still, given how stupid we are, perhaps aliens would also be dumb enough
to think:
"We need to help these poor people! Gimme three pyramids, stat!"
I believe that SF writers got there first. But in those stories the
aliens were more clever, passing on information rather than building
useless objects.
Still, given how stupid we are, perhaps aliens would also be dumb enough
to think:
"We need to help these poor people! Gimme three pyramids, stat!"
Haven't read him either.
Only came across all this stuff (besides flatmate in the 90s saying Daeniken spouted nonsense) after a Terraria update spoiler image with
crazy hair guy, text saying "I'm not saying it's aliens, but... It's Aliens!" (The Terraria update featured marsian invasions.)
When I then noticed crazy hair guy in some "documentary" I got
interested and watched that. (It's fascinating how I like watching that stupid show, and keep telling the people in it that they need to buy a brain. Yet, I keep watching it. Guess it has nice pictures. :) )
I am pretty certain that crazy hair dude at least doesn't really believe any of it.
s|b wrote:
You can't deny he saw things in a different perspective.
Ahem. There's at least one case where he photographed, for one of his
books, some graphics carved into stone in a cave in some South
American mountain from a perspective that was impossible to view
with your eyes if you stood there. Must have used some crane construction
to hold the camera. Impossible to falsify if you didn't travel there yourself to view the original.
Turned by 90 degrees(iirc), you might interpret it as an astronaut
inside a flying machine. Viewed normally, it was some guy with
decorative clothing crouching.
Ask me 50 years ago if you want details.
So you're very right, he viewed things, deliberately, from a different perspective.
On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 11:01:00 +0100, Mickmane wrote:
Haven't read him either.
Only came across all this stuff (besides flatmate in the 90s saying
Daeniken spouted nonsense) after a Terraria update spoiler image
with crazy hair guy, text saying "I'm not saying it's aliens, but...
It's Aliens!" (The Terraria update featured marsian invasions.)
https://tenor.com/view/aliens-ancient-aliens-giorgio-gif-21799424
When I then noticed crazy hair guy in some "documentary" I got
interested and watched that. (It's fascinating how I like watching
that stupid show, and keep telling the people in it that they need
to buy a brain. Yet, I keep watching it. Guess it has nice pictures.
:) )
I am pretty certain that crazy hair dude at least doesn't really
believe any of it.
You're talking about Giorgio A. Tsoukalos.
You're talking about Giorgio A. Tsoukalos.
Yeah, but I'd rather stick with crazy hair guy (people know who I mean,
and he didn't mind the hair reference in some episode) than trying to
spell the name correctly. :)
"Mickmane" <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote or quoted:
Yeah, but I'd rather stick with crazy hair guy (people know who I
mean, and he didn't mind the hair reference in some episode) than
trying to spell the name correctly. :)
People have long used messy or "wild" hair as a visual shorthand
for a disordered or unusual mind, and phrases like "bird's nest
in one's hair" grow out of that older association of tangled hair
with neglect, eccentricity, and madness.
On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 16:10:00 +0100, Mickmane wrote:
You're talking about Giorgio A. Tsoukalos.
Yeah, but I'd rather stick with crazy hair guy (people know who I
mean, and he didn't mind the hair reference in some episode) than
trying to spell the name correctly. :)
You could be talking about this guy: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074486/mediaviewer/rm1938112000/?ref_=tt_ov_i
On 16.01.26, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
"Mickmane" <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote or quoted:
Yeah, but I'd rather stick with crazy hair guy (people know who I
mean, and he didn't mind the hair reference in some episode) than
trying to spell the name correctly. :)
People have long used messy or "wild" hair as a visual shorthand
for a disordered or unusual mind, and phrases like "bird's nest
in one's hair" grow out of that older association of tangled hair
with neglect, eccentricity, and madness.
Blame Albert Einstein, or someone before him?
On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 15:23:00 +0100, "Mickmane" <ATH@kruemel.org>
wrote:
On 16.01.26, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
"Mickmane" <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote or quoted:
Yeah, but I'd rather stick with crazy hair guy (people know who I
mean, and he didn't mind the hair reference in some episode) than
trying to spell the name correctly. :)
People have long used messy or "wild" hair as a visual shorthand
for a disordered or unusual mind, and phrases like "bird's nest
in one's hair" grow out of that older association of tangled hair
with neglect, eccentricity, and madness.
Blame Albert Einstein, or someone before him?
In one of his plays, Aristophanes portrays Socrates with some of the
features of a "mad scientist", such as a robe and (IIRC) a funny hat.
He might or might not also have had tangled hair (in the play).
If you are thinking Aristophanes is rather far back there, consider:
1. In one play, a country bumpkin sells two pigs in a bag to a
desperate city dweller (desperate because the Peloponnesian War is
hindering the supply chain). When he takes it home and opens it, the bumpkin's daughter pop out and run away. Hence "a pig in a poke" for
buying something you cannot see.
When I bought our new oil furnace, it quickly became apparent that I
was, effectively, buying a pig in a poke. That is, all I really had to
work on was a sales pitch. By a salesman who didn't know much about
the product.
To be fair, it was installed and it still works nearly 20 years later.
But, still, lingering dissatisfaction with how it was sold makes me
hesitant to move to a heat pump, which will, no doubt, involve Yet
Another Sales Talk By Someone Selling Something He Knows Little About.
Three of them, if it seems prudent to get three bids and compare them.
2. /The Birds/, the play with Socrates in it per Wikipedia, is the
first known instance of Cloud Cuckoo Land, the aerial kingdom of the
birds.
3. He also wrote /Lysistrata/, in which the women of Athens and Sparta
try to stop the war by going on a sexual strike, only to find they
their desire is stronger than that of their husbands. It's produced a
number of plays and movies.
On 1/16/26 08:42, Paul S Person wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 15:23:00 +0100, "Mickmane" <ATH@kruemel.org>
wrote:
On 16.01.26, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
"Mickmane" <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote or quoted:
Yeah, but I'd rather stick with crazy hair guy (people know who I
mean, and he didn't mind the hair reference in some episode) than
trying to spell the name correctly. :)
People have long used messy or "wild" hair as a visual shorthand
for a disordered or unusual mind, and phrases like "bird's nest
in one's hair" grow out of that older association of tangled hair
with neglect, eccentricity, and madness.
Blame Albert Einstein, or someone before him?
In one of his plays, Aristophanes portrays Socrates with some of the
features of a "mad scientist", such as a robe and (IIRC) a funny hat.
He might or might not also have had tangled hair (in the play).
If you are thinking Aristophanes is rather far back there, consider:
1. In one play, a country bumpkin sells two pigs in a bag to a
desperate city dweller (desperate because the Peloponnesian War is
hindering the supply chain). When he takes it home and opens it, the
bumpkin's daughter pop out and run away. Hence "a pig in a poke" for
buying something you cannot see.
When I bought our new oil furnace, it quickly became apparent that I
was, effectively, buying a pig in a poke. That is, all I really had to
work on was a sales pitch. By a salesman who didn't know much about
the product.
To be fair, it was installed and it still works nearly 20 years later.
But, still, lingering dissatisfaction with how it was sold makes me
hesitant to move to a heat pump, which will, no doubt, involve Yet
Another Sales Talk By Someone Selling Something He Knows Little About.
Three of them, if it seems prudent to get three bids and compare them.
Or seek for consumer information on Heat Pumps online.
Like this: Heat pumps consumer information
Consumer Reports?
<https://www.consumerreports.org ? Product-Reviews ? Heat-Pumps>
2. /The Birds/, the play with Socrates in it per Wikipedia, is the
first known instance of Cloud Cuckoo Land, the aerial kingdom of the
birds.
3. He also wrote /Lysistrata/, in which the women of Athens and Sparta
try to stop the war by going on a sexual strike, only to find they
their desire is stronger than that of their husbands. It's produced a
number of plays and movies.
Aristophanes was the best.
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