• Re: Ping anim

    From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 10:58:13 2024
    On 4/12/2024 10:50 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I was going to ask you - and the other Americans in this thread - if
    you're all starting to see roundabouts in your area the last few years?
    It's not that long ago that we had essentially none in all of southern
    Ontario. Now they seem to be the "go to" choice for lots of situations.
    I'm not sure why that happened but it's very common now. I had
    understood that roundabouts are extremely rare in the US too but my
    friend is hearing that they are springing up all over in the US now.
    There was one in that video so maybe he's correct.

    Yes, they’re springing up like tumbleweeds. Usually for a stupid reason. Like a cheerleader barreled through an intersection at three times the
    speed limit so they decided they should put roundabout in there. She wouldn’t have noticed that anymore than she would’ve noticed the stop sign
    so she would’ve just hit it and landed on somebody else.

    They don’t have any signage, and nobody knows who has the right of way and so basically they’re freaking dangerous.

    The vehicle in the round part has the right of way.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 10:59:05 2024
    On 4/12/2024 12:26 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 10:50:35 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I was going to ask you - and the other Americans in this thread - if
    you're all starting to see roundabouts in your area the last few years?
    It's not that long ago that we had essentially none in all of southern
    Ontario. Now they seem to be the "go to" choice for lots of situations.
    I'm not sure why that happened but it's very common now. I had
    understood that roundabouts are extremely rare in the US too but my
    friend is hearing that they are springing up all over in the US now.
    There was one in that video so maybe he's correct.

    Yes, they’re springing up like tumbleweeds. Usually for a stupid reason. >> Like a cheerleader barreled through an intersection at three times the
    speed limit so they decided they should put roundabout in there. She
    wouldn’t have noticed that anymore than she would’ve noticed the stop sign
    so she would’ve just hit it and landed on somebody else.

    They don’t have any signage, and nobody knows who has the right of way and >> so basically they’re freaking dangerous.

    The idea is that supposedly because of that uncertainty people will
    drive slower and thus limit the # of accidents and the severity of any accidents that do happen. Though for people like the cheerleader or
    someone who is drunk enough it won't do a thing to stop them.

    I don't think that's it. Tests have shown that a roundabout can handle
    more traffic than a four-way stop sign intersection.

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  • From suzeeq@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 14:26:55 2024
    On 4/12/2024 5:59 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 4/12/2024 12:26 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 10:50:35 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I was going to ask you - and the other Americans in this thread - if
    you're all starting to see roundabouts in your area the last few years? >>>> It's not that long ago that we had essentially none in all of southern >>>> Ontario. Now they seem to be the "go to" choice for lots of situations. >>>> I'm not sure why that happened but it's very common now.ÿ I had
    understood that roundabouts are extremely rare in the US too but my
    friend is hearing that they are springing up all over in the US now.
    There was one in that video so maybe he's correct.

    Yes, they’re springing up like tumbleweeds. Usually for a stupid reason. >>> Like a cheerleader barreled through an intersection at three times the
    speed limit so they decided they should put roundabout in there. She
    wouldn’t have noticed that anymore than she would’ve noticed the stop >>> sign
    so she would’ve just hit it and landed on somebody else.

    They don’t have any signage, and nobody knows who has the right of
    way and
    so basically they’re freaking dangerous.

    The idea is that supposedly because of that uncertainty people will
    drive slower and thus limit the # of accidents and the severity of any
    accidents that do happen. Though for people like the cheerleader or
    someone who is drunk enough it won't do a thing to stop them.

    I don't think that's it.ÿ Tests have shown that a roundabout can handle
    more traffic than a four-way stop sign intersection.

    Yep, I like them. Takes about a week or so to get used to them, but
    they're pretty efficient.

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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 15:27:01 2024
    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 20:24:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    Yes, they’re springing up like tumbleweeds. Usually for a stupid reason. >>> Like a cheerleader barreled through an intersection at three times the
    speed limit so they decided they should put roundabout in there. She
    wouldn’t have noticed that anymore than she would’ve noticed the stop sign
    so she would’ve just hit it and landed on somebody else.

    They don’t have any signage, and nobody knows who has the right of way and
    so basically they’re freaking dangerous.

    The vehicle in the round part has the right of way.

    Fair enough but what if there are 2 lanes in the round-about?

    (If you are driving S from the Canadian border towards I-5 near
    Bellingham, WA (S of Vancouver) you will encounter at least 6
    roundabouts including one 2-lane version so I wasn't asking a snarky
    question)

    The roundabouts I'm referring to have signs at each entrance saying
    "YIELD when entering roundabout")

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  • From shawn@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 17:32:13 2024
    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:27:01 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 20:24:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    Yes, they’re springing up like tumbleweeds. Usually for a stupid reason.
    Like a cheerleader barreled through an intersection at three times the >>>> speed limit so they decided they should put roundabout in there. She
    wouldn’t have noticed that anymore than she would’ve noticed the stop sign
    so she would’ve just hit it and landed on somebody else.

    They don’t have any signage, and nobody knows who has the right of way and
    so basically they’re freaking dangerous.

    The vehicle in the round part has the right of way.

    Fair enough but what if there are 2 lanes in the round-about?

    (If you are driving S from the Canadian border towards I-5 near
    Bellingham, WA (S of Vancouver) you will encounter at least 6
    roundabouts including one 2-lane version so I wasn't asking a snarky >question)

    The roundabouts I'm referring to have signs at each entrance saying
    "YIELD when entering roundabout")

    LOL. You think people pay attention to signs! LOL.

    Right across the street from where I live there are multiple lanes of
    traffic the rightmost lane set up for incoming traffic. No stop sign
    or stop light for them, just a yield sign for oncoming traffic to keep
    things flowing since in the morning all the traffic tends to be
    merging to the right and in the evening we see the same thing in the
    opposite direction.

    Yet every day I will see people who either treat the yield sign as a
    STOP sign and hold up traffic or treat it as though it wasn't there
    and come close to hitting someone. Usually a few times a month there
    will be an accident there where someone didn't pay attention to the
    oncoming traffic.

    So I expect the same would happen with a YIELD sign put up at the
    entrance to any roundabout.

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  • From shawn@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 17:33:44 2024
    On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 06:37:31 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Apr 12, 2024 at 10:27:01 PM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 20:24:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    Yes, they'??re springing up like tumbleweeds. Usually for a stupid reason.
    Like a cheerleader barreled through an intersection at three times the >>>>> speed limit so they decided they should put roundabout in there. She >>>>> wouldn't have noticed that anymore than she would'??ve noticed the stop sign
    so she would'??ve just hit it and landed on somebody else.

    They don'??t have any signage, and nobody knows who has the right of way and
    so basically they'??re freaking dangerous.

    The vehicle in the round part has the right of way.

    Fair enough but what if there are 2 lanes in the round-about?

    (If you are driving S from the Canadian border towards I-5 near
    Bellingham, WA (S of Vancouver) you will encounter at least 6
    roundabouts including one 2-lane version so I wasn't asking a snarky
    question)

    We have the mother of all roundabouts in Long Beach. It's a series of nested >roundabouts that you need a PH.d to figure out:

    https://ibb.co/gVq04rw


    How many people have passed away from getting stuck in that mess?
    I don't know how/why the traffic designers ever thought that would be
    a good idea.

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