• Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-04-11 (Thursday)

    From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 07:00:30 2024
    In article <uvbq30$2fjc3$1@dont-email.me>,
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    Civil War (theatrical) New war movie written and directed by Alex
    Garland. The movie is set in the near future where the United States is
    at the end of a brutal civil war. The plot follows 4 journalist as the
    make their way from New York to D.C. for what they hope will be an
    interview with the President. I went in not knowing what to expect
    other than it was getting great reviews. I was taken aback by just how intense this movie is. It's like the opening of Saving Private Ryan
    mixed with the opening Farm House scene in Inglorious Basterds or pretty much any Tarantino flick where you are on the edge of your seat waiting
    to see who will die. This is almost non stop action and when the action
    does stop, then it becomes an edge of your seat thriller. I think this
    movie probably gave me PTSD! I also noticed, and I almost never notice
    this, but the sound mix on this movie is one of the best I've ever heard
    in a theater. This movie is definitely one for the theater, in the
    biggest screen with the best sound possible.

    Didn't realize this was out now. Thanks.

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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 04:57:06 2024
    On 4/12/2024 11:16 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 4/12/24 10:12 AM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:

    I watched:


    Civil War (theatrical) New war movie written and directed by Alex
    Garland.ÿ The movie is set in the near future where the United States
    is at the end of a brutal civil war.ÿ The plot follows 4 journalist as
    the make their way from New York to D.C. for what they hope will be an
    interview with the President.ÿ I went in not knowing what to expect
    other than it was getting great reviews.ÿ I was taken aback by just
    how intense this movie is.ÿ It's like the opening of Saving Private
    Ryan mixed with the opening Farm House scene in Inglorious Basterds or
    pretty much any Tarantino flick where you are on the edge of your seat
    waiting to see who will die.ÿ This is almost non stop action and when
    the action does stop, then it becomes an edge of your seat thriller.
    I think this movie probably gave me PTSD!ÿ I also noticed, and I
    almost never notice this, but the sound mix on this movie is one of
    the best I've ever heard in a theater.ÿ This movie is definitely one
    for the theater, in the biggest screen with the best sound possible.

    Not true!! All the home theater nerds will tell you that if you have a
    good enough TV and sound system (IOW, top-of-the-line stuff), it will be better than any theater experience, save for IMAX.

    I believe they are now correct on this point (especially with top-of-the-line OLED TV, and a Dolby 5-7+-whatever speaker sound system).


    I generally agree. My home audio system (to my ears at least) is as
    good or better than the local theater. That's why this sound mix stood
    out so much. Granted I did see it in a Dolby Theater which is obviously
    going to have a top of the line sound system/mix. But this one in
    particular stood out like no other.

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  • From shawn@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 11:01:51 2024
    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 11:57:06 -0700, Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    On 4/12/2024 11:16 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 4/12/24 10:12 AM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:

    I watched:


    Civil War (theatrical) New war movie written and directed by Alex
    Garland.ÿ The movie is set in the near future where the United States
    is at the end of a brutal civil war.ÿ The plot follows 4 journalist as
    the make their way from New York to D.C. for what they hope will be an
    interview with the President.ÿ I went in not knowing what to expect
    other than it was getting great reviews.ÿ I was taken aback by just
    how intense this movie is.ÿ It's like the opening of Saving Private
    Ryan mixed with the opening Farm House scene in Inglorious Basterds or
    pretty much any Tarantino flick where you are on the edge of your seat
    waiting to see who will die.ÿ This is almost non stop action and when
    the action does stop, then it becomes an edge of your seat thriller.
    I think this movie probably gave me PTSD!ÿ I also noticed, and I
    almost never notice this, but the sound mix on this movie is one of
    the best I've ever heard in a theater.ÿ This movie is definitely one
    for the theater, in the biggest screen with the best sound possible.

    Not true!! All the home theater nerds will tell you that if you have a
    good enough TV and sound system (IOW, top-of-the-line stuff), it will be
    better than any theater experience, save for IMAX.

    I believe they are now correct on this point (especially with
    top-of-the-line OLED TV, and a Dolby 5-7+-whatever speaker sound system).


    I generally agree. My home audio system (to my ears at least) is as
    good or better than the local theater. That's why this sound mix stood
    out so much. Granted I did see it in a Dolby Theater which is obviously >going to have a top of the line sound system/mix. But this one in >particular stood out like no other.

    The only problem I have with the theaters is they tend to overdo the
    bass. I've seen this now in multiple theaters where the bass is turned
    up enough to become almost painful at times. The latest offender was
    Dune 2 at a local place that has the state of the art digital playback
    system. It was great most of the time but there were a few times when
    the sound really kicked that I winced. Still a great movie to see in a
    theater.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 11:02:11 2024
    On 4/12/2024 11:12 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 4/12/24 7:28 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    On 4/12/2024 5:49 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:

    What did you watch?

    A 'How the Universe Works' rerun about dark matter and dark energy.
    Basically we haven't got a clue what either one actually is.

    The dirty little secret is that they are both basically "fudge factors"
    in cosmology physics, to make the math work.

    IOW, we know there is *something* there, because the math doesn't make
    sense otherwise, but we have no idea what it actually is.

    Well, its not really a "secret", all the astronomers, astrophysicists
    and cosmologists on the show were flat out saying "We haven't got a clue
    what these really are!".

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    dirty old man.


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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 11:03:29 2024
    On 4/12/2024 9:59 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    I watched:


    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    NEXT EXIT (2022)

    Suggested by obvious. I gave it a shot because it has Karen Gillan in it.

    WARNING for Amy pond fans.

    She literally phones in her part which was filmed separately and appears on TV screens.

    A boring and wretchedly terrible movie. Amy Pond finds proof of the afterlife. Really stupid proof. A little kid says his father‘s ghost Plays a card game with him and no one but the dead father knew how to play this card game. Um,, I’m thinking the kid must’ve known how. And if nobody alive knew the rules how did they even know the ghost is doing it right?

    So Amy Pond and San Francisco in a fancy building we’ve seen in Canadian sci-fi before is asking for volunteers to commit suicide. Two people are coming from New York and so they buddy up and it becomes a road trip movie. With four days left across the country the pond institute Rents these
    people a car to drive. That’s absolutely ridiculous. And the route they take from New York to San Francisco. It just happens to go through where
    both there estranged parents live one of which is in Arizona!

    Stupid stupid stupid

    Just avoid it

    You've seen, and reviewed, this before. I remember the "She literally
    phones in her part" bit.

    --
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    dirty old man.


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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 11:22:23 2024
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <1708409895.734631909.322976.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    LAW & ORDER - MOTHERSHIP

    I thought I told the DVR to stop recording this after the last horrible
    episode but apparently it didn’t listen.

    A surrogate mother from Ukraine murders the mother, of the baby she’s
    carrying so she can sell it to a higher bidder. And we’re supposed to feel >> sorry for her, because oh boo-hoo Ukraine. The female assistant ADA is
    especially useless, and after accusing her of deliberately trying to throw >> the case they tell her to either hand in her resignation, or start doing
    her job. She chooses the latter.

    Maroun is gone?!?!

    Damn!

    No, no, no. She chose the latter. The latter is to start doing her job.



    Could have seen this coming. She's been taking the defense side of a lot
    of cases for a while now. Maybe she and Erin Reagan can go hang out a shingle together and fight for New York's criminals.

    We learned that whoever signs the birth certificate is the legal parent in >> New York even if they killed the mother and stole the baby.

    That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works.

    I so hope they made that up.



    We also learned that if you put away the legal mother for murder, the baby >> will spend its entire life in the prison with her. This seems... unlikely.

    See above.




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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 12:48:59 2024
    On 4/12/24 6:03 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    On 4/12/2024 9:59 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    I watched:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    NEXT EXIT (2022)

    Suggested by obvious. I gave it a shot because it has Karen Gillan in it.

    WARNING for Amy pond fans.

    She literally phones in her part which was filmed separately and
    appears on
    TV screens.

    A boring and wretchedly terrible movie. Amy Pond finds proof of the
    afterlife. Really stupid proof. A little kid says his father‘s ghost
    Plays
    a card game with him and no one but the dead father knew how to play this
    card game.  Um,, I’m thinking the kid must’ve known how. And if nobody >> alive knew the rules how did they even know the ghost is doing it right?

    So Amy Pond and San Francisco in a fancy building we’ve seen in Canadian >> sci-fi before is asking for volunteers to commit suicide. Two people are
    coming from New York and so they buddy up and it becomes a road trip
    movie.
    With four days left across the country the pond institute Rents these
    people a car to drive. That’s absolutely ridiculous. And the route they
    take from New York to San Francisco. It just happens to go through where
    both there estranged parents live one of which is in Arizona!

    Stupid stupid stupid

    Just avoid it

    You've seen, and reviewed, this before.ÿ I remember the "She literally phones in her part" bit.

    He has use the term before, yes, but not for an Amy Pond flick, AFAICR...

    I myself have been tempted to use the term myself, in those Lifetime
    pics from Hybrid where Eric Roberts, Jackee or Vivica are pretty much
    "phoning in" their lines, which are then spliced together into scenes
    with the actors in those films who actually show up on set! later in
    editing.



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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 13:24:54 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 4/12/2024 9:59 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    I watched:


    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    NEXT EXIT (2022)

    Suggested by obvious. I gave it a shot because it has Karen Gillan in it.

    WARNING for Amy pond fans.

    She literally phones in her part which was filmed separately and appears on >> TV screens.

    A boring and wretchedly terrible movie. Amy Pond finds proof of the
    afterlife. Really stupid proof. A little kid says his father‘s ghost Plays >> a card game with him and no one but the dead father knew how to play this
    card game. Um,, I’m thinking the kid must’ve known how. And if nobody >> alive knew the rules how did they even know the ghost is doing it right?

    So Amy Pond and San Francisco in a fancy building we’ve seen in Canadian >> sci-fi before is asking for volunteers to commit suicide. Two people are
    coming from New York and so they buddy up and it becomes a road trip movie. >> With four days left across the country the pond institute Rents these
    people a car to drive. That’s absolutely ridiculous. And the route they
    take from New York to San Francisco. It just happens to go through where
    both there estranged parents live one of which is in Arizona!

    Stupid stupid stupid

    Just avoid it

    You've seen, and reviewed, this before. I remember the "She literally phones in her part" bit.


    I expect I have, but not for this particular film.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 13 13:24:55 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 4/12/24 6:03 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    On 4/12/2024 9:59 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    I watched:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    NEXT EXIT (2022)

    Suggested by obvious. I gave it a shot because it has Karen Gillan in it. >>>
    WARNING for Amy pond fans.

    She literally phones in her part which was filmed separately and
    appears on
    TV screens.

    A boring and wretchedly terrible movie. Amy Pond finds proof of the
    afterlife. Really stupid proof. A little kid says his father‘s ghost
    Plays
    a card game with him and no one but the dead father knew how to play this >>> card game.  Um,, I’m thinking the kid must’ve known how. And if nobody >>> alive knew the rules how did they even know the ghost is doing it right? >>>
    So Amy Pond and San Francisco in a fancy building we’ve seen in Canadian >>> sci-fi before is asking for volunteers to commit suicide. Two people are >>> coming from New York and so they buddy up and it becomes a road trip
    movie.
    With four days left across the country the pond institute Rents these
    people a car to drive. That’s absolutely ridiculous. And the route they >>> take from New York to San Francisco. It just happens to go through where >>> both there estranged parents live one of which is in Arizona!

    Stupid stupid stupid

    Just avoid it

    You've seen, and reviewed, this before.ÿ I remember the "She literally
    phones in her part" bit.

    He has use the term before, yes, but not for an Amy Pond flick, AFAICR...


    Nope. You are correct, sir.


    I myself have been tempted to use the term myself, in those Lifetime
    pics from Hybrid where Eric Roberts, Jackee or Vivica are pretty much "phoning in" their lines, which are then spliced together into scenes
    with the actors in those films who actually show up on set! later in editing.

    We probably can think of a better term for that.

    In this movie, Amy Pond is just being shown on TV in the background. She’s not even phoning it in. There’s no interaction with the boring characters she’s intending to kill.

    I’m still trying to think what shows we’ve seen her headquarters building in.


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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Apr 16 12:35:27 2024
    On Apr 12, 2024 at 10:12:56 AM PDT, "Arthur Lipscomb" <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    On 4/12/2024 7:28 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 4/12/2024 5:49 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:

    What did you watch?

    A 'How the Universe Works' rerun about dark matter and dark energy.
    Basically we haven't got a clue what either one actually is.

    Civil War (theatrical) New war movie written and directed by Alex
    Garland. The movie is set in the near future where the United States is
    at the end of a brutal civil war. The plot follows 4 journalist as the
    make their way from New York to D.C. for what they hope will be an
    interview with the President. I went in not knowing what to expect
    other than it was getting great reviews. I was taken aback by just how intense this movie is. It's like the opening of Saving Private Ryan
    mixed with the opening Farm House scene in Inglorious Basterds or pretty much any Tarantino flick where you are on the edge of your seat waiting
    to see who will die. This is almost non stop action and when the action
    does stop, then it becomes an edge of your seat thriller. I think this
    movie probably gave me PTSD! I also noticed, and I almost never notice
    this, but the sound mix on this movie is one of the best I've ever heard
    in a theater. This movie is definitely one for the theater, in the
    biggest screen with the best sound possible.

    Saw this last night. It was a lot better than I was expecting, especially
    given the protagonists were journalists. I was expecting long preachy monologues about 'progressive' politics. There was literally none of that in this movie and it was quite a refreshing change.

    It was also a lot more action-oriented than I expected. I figured there'd be a few action set pieces but not the constant barrage from one scene to the
    next.

    In the scene with the soldiers burying the bodies in a mass grave, couldn't figure out why Dunst didn't just tell her husband to let them all go or he'd
    be sleeping on the couch for a long time.

    It's still weird seeing Ron Swanson as the head of the entire massive United States bureaucracy.

    As for the ending, it was all very exciting and all, but completely unrealistic.

    SPOILERS:

    Ba gur jnl bhg bs gur gurngre, gur tveysevraq jnf nfxvat zr jul gur cerfvqrag jnf uvqvat oruvaq uvf qrfx va gur Biny Bssvpr; jbhyqa'g gur Frperg Freivpr
    unir gnxra uvz qbja vagb gur ohaxre?

    Jryy, lrf naq ab. Pregnvayl ol gung cbvag, gur HFFF jbhyqa'g unir whfg orra pebhpuvat va gur Biny Bssvpr jvgu fznyy nezf jnvgvat gb svtug bss na ragver zvyvgnel qvivfvba. Ohg gur CRBP vf whfg sbe n penfu rinphngvba jura lbh bayl unir zvahgrf gb trg gb fnsrgl. Fbzrguvat yvxr 9-11 be gur fpranevb va BYLZCHF UNF SNYYRA.

    Ernyvfgvpnyyl va guvf fvghngvba, gur cerfvqrag jbhyq unir orra rinphngrq gb Zbhag Jrngure orsber gur rarzl sbeprf rira tbg pybfr gb QP naq vg jbhyq gnxr n qverpg uvg sebz n ahxr gb trg gb uvz bapr gubfr qbbef ner frnyrq. Gurer'f rabhtu sbbq naq jngre va gurer gb ynfg 15 lrnef. Ybatre vs ur qbrfa'g oevat
    gur jubyr ragbhentr nybat. Naq ybgf bs urnil beqanapr va gurer, gbb. Pregnvayl zber guna n srj yvtug znpuvar thaf.



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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Apr 17 18:30:45 2024
    In article <uvbgf7$2ddof$1@dont-email.me>, dtravel@sonic.net wrote:
    On 4/12/2024 5:49 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:

    What did you watch?

    A 'How the Universe Works' rerun about dark matter and dark energy. >Basically we haven't got a clue what either one actually is.

    As I understand it, it's the behavior of light and gravity at galactic distances and the expansion of the universe.

    --
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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Apr 17 18:30:46 2024
    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    Civil War (theatrical) New war movie written and directed by Alex
    Garland. The movie is set in the near future where the United States is
    at the end of a brutal civil war. The plot follows 4 journalist as the
    make their way from New York to D.C. for what they hope will be an
    interview with the President. I went in not knowing what to expect
    other than it was getting great reviews. I was taken aback by just how
    intense this movie is. It's like the opening of Saving Private Ryan
    mixed with the opening Farm House scene in Inglorious Basterds or pretty
    much any Tarantino flick where you are on the edge of your seat waiting
    to see who will die. This is almost non stop action and when the action
    does stop, then it becomes an edge of your seat thriller. I think this
    movie probably gave me PTSD! I also noticed, and I almost never notice
    this, but the sound mix on this movie is one of the best I've ever heard
    in a theater. This movie is definitely one for the theater, in the
    biggest screen with the best sound possible.

    Didn't realize this was out now. Thanks.

    I thought I posted reviews on YouTube recently.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!


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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Apr 17 18:30:47 2024
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    ARGYLE.
    The first thing I found on Apple TV that they didn't make me pay all the
    cart for. It looks silly and interesting and potentially fun, and I set it >aside to watch another time when I was't about to fall asleep.

    You'll be sorrrry...

    --
    Let's go Brandon!



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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Apr 19 07:52:11 2024
    On 4/15/2024 7:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2024 at 10:12:56 AM PDT, "Arthur Lipscomb" <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    On 4/12/2024 7:28 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 4/12/2024 5:49 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:

    What did you watch?

    A 'How the Universe Works' rerun about dark matter and dark energy.
    Basically we haven't got a clue what either one actually is.

    Civil War (theatrical) New war movie written and directed by Alex
    Garland. The movie is set in the near future where the United States is
    at the end of a brutal civil war. The plot follows 4 journalist as the
    make their way from New York to D.C. for what they hope will be an
    interview with the President. I went in not knowing what to expect
    other than it was getting great reviews. I was taken aback by just how
    intense this movie is. It's like the opening of Saving Private Ryan
    mixed with the opening Farm House scene in Inglorious Basterds or pretty
    much any Tarantino flick where you are on the edge of your seat waiting
    to see who will die. This is almost non stop action and when the action
    does stop, then it becomes an edge of your seat thriller. I think this
    movie probably gave me PTSD! I also noticed, and I almost never notice
    this, but the sound mix on this movie is one of the best I've ever heard
    in a theater. This movie is definitely one for the theater, in the
    biggest screen with the best sound possible.

    Saw this last night. It was a lot better than I was expecting, especially given the protagonists were journalists. I was expecting long preachy monologues about 'progressive' politics. There was literally none of that in this movie and it was quite a refreshing change.

    It was also a lot more action-oriented than I expected. I figured there'd be a
    few action set pieces but not the constant barrage from one scene to the next.

    In the scene with the soldiers burying the bodies in a mass grave, couldn't figure out why Dunst didn't just tell her husband to let them all go or he'd be sleeping on the couch for a long time.


    He was a last minute replacement when the original actor pulled out. I
    had completely forgot the two were married until after the movie.


    It's still weird seeing Ron Swanson as the head of the entire massive United States bureaucracy.

    As for the ending, it was all very exciting and all, but completely unrealistic.

    SPOILERS:

    Ba gur jnl bhg bs gur gurngre, gur tveysevraq jnf nfxvat zr jul gur cerfvqrag jnf uvqvat oruvaq uvf qrfx va gur Biny Bssvpr; jbhyqa'g gur Frperg Freivpr unir gnxra uvz qbja vagb gur ohaxre?

    Jryy, lrf naq ab. Pregnvayl ol gung cbvag, gur HFFF jbhyqa'g unir whfg orra pebhpuvat va gur Biny Bssvpr jvgu fznyy nezf jnvgvat gb svtug bss na ragver zvyvgnel qvivfvba. Ohg gur CRBP vf whfg sbe n penfu rinphngvba jura lbh bayl unir zvahgrf gb trg gb fnsrgl. Fbzrguvat yvxr 9-11 be gur fpranevb va BYLZCHF UNF SNYYRA.

    Ernyvfgvpnyyl va guvf fvghngvba, gur cerfvqrag jbhyq unir orra rinphngrq gb Zbhag Jrngure orsber gur rarzl sbeprf rira tbg pybfr gb QP naq vg jbhyq gnxr n
    qverpg uvg sebz n ahxr gb trg gb uvz bapr gubfr qbbef ner frnyrq. Gurer'f rabhtu sbbq naq jngre va gurer gb ynfg 15 lrnef. Ybatre vs ur qbrfa'g oevat gur jubyr ragbhentr nybat. Naq ybgf bs urnil beqanapr va gurer, gbb. Pregnvayl
    zber guna n srj yvtug znpuvar thaf.



    I think there are a couple of explanations for this.
    Sebz gur fgneg ur jnf oebnqpnfgvat cebcntnaqn nobhg ubj uvf fvqr jnf
    jvaavat gur jne. Ur znl unir oryvrirq uvf bja yvrf fb ehaavat naq uvqvat
    va n zbhagnva jbhyq or n irel ivfvoyr naq gnatvoyr cebbs gung ur unq ybfg.

    Nyfb, gurl fnvq gur zvyvgnel fheeraqrerq. Cerfhznoyl gung vapyhqrq
    jubrire jnf va pbageby bs Zbhag Jrngure. Fb rira vs ur jnagrq gb tb gb
    Zbhag Jrngure, ur pbhyqa'g.

    Naq rira va gur erny jbeyq jura tbireazragf snyy gur yrnqre vf bsgra
    qenttrq bhg bs gur cerfvqragvny cnynpr, be fbzr arneol cynpr gurl syrq.
    Abg fbzr ohaxre, onggyr fuvc be fhoznevar. Gurl fgnl va gurve
    erfcrpgvir pncvgny pvgl hagvy gur ovggre raq.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8.4 (Linux-x86_64)
    * Origin: A noiseless patient Spider (3:633/280.2@fidonet)