• Bill Maher Warns Canada Is A "Cautionary Tale" For U.S.: "We're Diving

    From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Apr 17 18:30:55 2024
    Subject: Bill Maher Warns Canada Is A "Cautionary Tale" For U.S.: "We're Diving Off A Cliff"
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    Comedian Bill Maher said over the weekend that if Americans wanted to see
    what would happen to the United States if it continued down the path to “extreme wokeness,” they should look no further than their neighbors to the north.

    Maher argued — during Friday’s broadcast of “Real Time” on HBO — that Canada should serve as a “cautionary tale” for Americans who wanted the progressive utopian ideal and thought that they could see it just across the border.

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    They say in politics, liberals are the gas pedal, and conservatives
    are the brakes, and I'm generally with the gas pedal, but not if
    we're driving off a cliff. pic.twitter.com/hutj3OUVQi

    — Bill Maher (@billmaher) April 13, 2024

    Maher began by saying that he agreed with those who said American liberals should learn from progressive countries that were getting things right — but then he pointed out that it was equally important to recognize and
    acknowledge flaws when they were present.

    Giving two examples, Maher noted that unemployment in the United States was 3.8% compared to Canada’s 6.1% — and that air quality in Canada was
    measurably worse than in the United States.

    “They say in politics liberals are the gas pedal and conservatives are the brakes. And I’m generally with the gas pedal. But not if we’re driving off a cliff,” Maher said, adding, “Canada was where every woke White college kid wearing pajama pants outdoors who had it up to here with America’s racist patriarchy dreamt of living someday. I mean, besides Gaza.”

    “There’s only one problem with thinking everything’s better in Canada: It’s not. Not anymore, anyway,” Maher said, arguing that the housing crisis in American cities was nothing compared to what was happening to the north. “The median price of a home here is $346,000. In Canada converted to US dollars, it’s 487. If Barbie moved to Winnipeg, she wouldn’t be able to afford her dream house and Ken would be working at Tim Hortons.”

    Maher went on to note that the liberal dream of single-payer health care — which Canada has — is also not living up to its promise: “Their vaunted
    health care system, which ranks dead last among high income countries, and access to primary health care, and the ability to see a doctor in a day or two. And it’s not for lack of spending. Of the 30 countries with universal coverage, Canada spends over 13% of its economy on it, which is a lot of
    money for free health care. Look, I’m not saying Canada still isn’t a great country, it is, but those aren’t paradise numbers.”

    “If Canada was an apartment, the lead feature might be America adjacent. And if America was a rental car, Canada would be America or similar,” Maher concluded. “And again, honestly, Canada, I’m not saying any of this because I enjoy it. I don’t because I’ve always enjoyed you, but I need to cite you as
    a cautionary tale to help my country. And the moral of that tale is ‘yes, you can move too far left, and when you do, you wind up pushing the people in the middle to the right.’ At its worst. Canada is what American voters think happens when there’s no one putting a check on extreme wokeness.”

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    Let's go Brandon!


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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Apr 18 05:56:33 2024
    Subject: Re: Bill Maher Warns Canada Is A "Cautionary Tale" For U.S.: "We're Diving Off A Cliff"

    In article <uvoo5f$1lc8m$9@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Comedian Bill Maher said over the weekend that if Americans wanted to see what would happen to the United States if it continued down the path to "extreme wokeness", they should look no further than their neighbors to the north.

    Maher argued-- during Friday's broadcast of REAL TIME on HBO-- that Canada should serve as a cautionary tale for Americans who wanted the progressive utopian ideal and thought that they could see it just across the border.

    Maher began by saying that he agreed with those who said American liberals should learn from progressive countries that were getting things right--
    but then he pointed out that it was equally important to recognize and acknowledge flaws when they were present.

    Giving two examples, Maher noted that unemployment in the United States was 3.8% compared to Canada’s 6.1%-- and that air quality in Canada was measurably worse than in the United States.

    "They say in politics liberals are the gas pedal and conservatives are the brakes. And I'm generally with the gas pedal but not if we're driving off a cliff," Maher said, adding, "Canada was where every woke white college kid wearing pajama pants outdoors who had it up to here with America's racist patriarchy dreamt of living someday. I mean, besides Gaza."

    "There's only one problem with thinking everything's better in Canada: It's not. Not anymore, anyway," Maher said, arguing that the housing crisis in American cities was nothing compared to what was happening to the north.
    "The median price of a home here is $346,000. In Canada converted to US dollars, it's 487. If Barbie moved to Winnipeg, she wouldn't be able to afford her dream house and Ken would be working at Tim Hortons."

    Maher went on to note that the liberal dream of single-payer health care-- which Canada has-- is also not living up to its promise: "Their vaunted health care system, which ranks dead last among high income countries, and access to primary health care, and the ability to see a doctor in a day or two. And it's not for lack of spending. Of the 30 countries with universal coverage, Canada spends over 13% of its economy on it, which is a lot of money for free health care.

    And this is a country that spends very little on its national defense.
    It doesn't need a massive military to defend itself because it knows
    we'll do it for them. So they have all the money they would normally
    need to spend on defense and can put it toward things like health care
    and it still turns into a disaster. No wonder the Canadian government is turning to offering suicide as the go-to cure for all maladies.

    "Look, I'm not saying Canada still isn't a great country, it is, but those aren't paradise numbers."

    "If Canada was an apartment, the lead feature might be America adjacent. And if America was a rental car, Canada would be America or similar," Maher concluded. "And again, honestly, Canada, I'm not saying any of this because I
    enjoy it. I don't because I've always enjoyed you, but I need to cite you as a cautionary tale to help my country. And the moral of that tale is 'yes, you
    can move too far Left and when you do, you wind up pushing the people in the middle to the right'. At its worst, Canada is what American voters think happens when there's no one putting a check on extreme wokeness."

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  • From shawn@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Apr 18 09:44:50 2024
    Subject: Re: Bill Maher Warns Canada Is A "Cautionary Tale" For U.S.: "We're Diving Off A Cliff"

    On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 12:56:33 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <uvoo5f$1lc8m$9@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Comedian Bill Maher said over the weekend that if Americans wanted to see >> what would happen to the United States if it continued down the path to
    "extreme wokeness", they should look no further than their neighbors to the >> north.

    Maher argued-- during Friday's broadcast of REAL TIME on HBO-- that Canada >> should serve as a cautionary tale for Americans who wanted the progressive >> utopian ideal and thought that they could see it just across the border.

    Maher began by saying that he agreed with those who said American liberals >> should learn from progressive countries that were getting things right--
    but then he pointed out that it was equally important to recognize and
    acknowledge flaws when they were present.

    Giving two examples, Maher noted that unemployment in the United States was >> 3.8% compared to Canada? 6.1%-- and that air quality in Canada was
    measurably worse than in the United States.

    Except you can't compare the two numbers. I don't recall the specifics
    but Canada counts who is unemployed differently from the USA which
    ends up with Canada having a higher number because they include people
    as unemployed that the USA would not.

    "They say in politics liberals are the gas pedal and conservatives are the >> brakes. And I'm generally with the gas pedal but not if we're driving off a >> cliff," Maher said, adding, "Canada was where every woke white college kid >> wearing pajama pants outdoors who had it up to here with America's racist >> patriarchy dreamt of living someday. I mean, besides Gaza."

    "There's only one problem with thinking everything's better in Canada: It's >> not. Not anymore, anyway," Maher said, arguing that the housing crisis in >> American cities was nothing compared to what was happening to the north.
    "The median price of a home here is $346,000. In Canada converted to US
    dollars, it's 487. If Barbie moved to Winnipeg, she wouldn't be able to
    afford her dream house and Ken would be working at Tim Hortons."

    Now that is very much the truth, but housing is rising everywhere
    faster than wages are rising. To the point where anyone not in the
    middle class won't be able to buy a home, and even they may struggle.
    Canada just has it worse than the USA since they seem to have a larger
    portion of their homes being bought by people who actually live over
    seas. Largely people in China trying to put their money to use outside
    of China.

    Maher went on to note that the liberal dream of single-payer health care-- >> which Canada has-- is also not living up to its promise: "Their vaunted
    health care system, which ranks dead last among high income countries, and >> access to primary health care, and the ability to see a doctor in a day or >> two. And it's not for lack of spending. Of the 30 countries with universal >> coverage, Canada spends over 13% of its economy on it, which is a lot of
    money for free health care.

    And this is a country that spends very little on its national defense.
    It doesn't need a massive military to defend itself because it knows
    we'll do it for them. So they have all the money they would normally
    need to spend on defense and can put it toward things like health care
    and it still turns into a disaster. No wonder the Canadian government is >turning to offering suicide as the go-to cure for all maladies.

    There's no easy way for someone to attack Canada without going through
    the USA. The only country that is at risk would be Russia, but them
    attacking Canada likely means also attacking Alaska and the USA. That
    and there's not much in Canada to take that isn't effectively the USA
    (given how much of the Canadian population lives near the USA border.)



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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 20 14:37:17 2024
    Subject: Re: Bill Maher Warns Canada Is A "Cautionary Tale" For U.S.: "We're Diving Off A Cliff"

    On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 22:01:36 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    They get "severance pay" AND the pension?? I didn't know about the
    severance pay portion. I've NEVER been happy about parliamentarians
    setting their own salaries but this just makes me unhappier about it! I >remember when the current system was being conceived and someone or
    another proposed that MP salaries be set by some independent body but >couldn't get Parliament to go for that - unsurprisingly.

    I'm pretty sure that's what my (recently) "involuntarily retired" MP
    told me....

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