• L.A. Area Deputy Mayor Urges Violent Street Gangs to Attack ICE

    From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 26 05:21:33 2025
    Cynthia Gonzalez, the deputy mayor of Cudahy, a small enclave in Los Angeles, recently posted a video calling for the ultra-violent 18th Street Gang and Florencia 13, an arm of the Mexican Mafia, to rise up against ICE and defend their territory.


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937684132596686848/vid/avc1/576x1024/7h6nahQC2cX9GUnF.mp4

    The Los Angeles Division of the FBI has opened a criminal investigation into Gonzalez and has already paid her a visit at her home. Hopefully she was
    stupid enough to talk to them.

    Gonzalez' Facebook page reveals her to be a radical, anti-American "revanchist", a Mexican-American group that seeks to recover Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California as territory of Mexico.



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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 26 07:57:01 2025
    On 2025-06-25 3:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Cynthia Gonzalez, the deputy mayor of Cudahy, a small enclave in Los Angeles, recently posted a video calling for the ultra-violent 18th Street Gang and Florencia 13, an arm of the Mexican Mafia, to rise up against ICE and defend their territory.


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937684132596686848/vid/avc1/576x1024/7h6nahQC2cX9GUnF.mp4

    The Los Angeles Division of the FBI has opened a criminal investigation into Gonzalez and has already paid her a visit at her home. Hopefully she was stupid enough to talk to them.

    Gonzalez' Facebook page reveals her to be a radical, anti-American "revanchist", a Mexican-American group that seeks to recover Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California as territory of Mexico.



    Wouldn't the speech in the video constitute incitement? If not, what
    more would she have to say to qualify?

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 26 09:49:35 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Cynthia Gonzalez, the deputy mayor of Cudahy, a small enclave in Los Angeles, >recently posted a video calling for the ultra-violent 18th Street Gang and >Florencia 13, an arm of the Mexican Mafia, to rise up against ICE and defend >their territory.

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937684132596686848/vid/avc1/576x1024/7h6nahQC2cX9GUnF.mp4

    The Los Angeles Division of the FBI has opened a criminal investigation into >Gonzalez and has already paid her a visit at her home. Hopefully she was >stupid enough to talk to them.

    Gonzalez' Facebook page reveals her to be a radical, anti-American >"revanchist", a Mexican-American group that seeks to recover Texas, Arizona, >New Mexico and California as territory of Mexico.

    Why have FBI visit her? Let her talk to the Army.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 26 13:12:34 2025
    On Jun 25, 2025 at 2:57:01 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-25 3:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    Cynthia Gonzalez, the deputy mayor of Cudahy, a small enclave in Los
    Angeles,
    recently posted a video calling for the ultra-violent 18th Street Gang and >> Florencia 13, an arm of the Mexican Mafia, to rise up against ICE and defend
    their territory.


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937684132596686848/vid/avc1/576x1024/7h6nahQC2cX9GUnF.mp4

    The Los Angeles Division of the FBI has opened a criminal investigation into
    Gonzalez and has already paid her a visit at her home. Hopefully she was
    stupid enough to talk to them.

    Gonzalez' Facebook page reveals her to be a radical, anti-American
    "revanchist", a Mexican-American group that seeks to recover Texas, Arizona,
    New Mexico and California as territory of Mexico.

    Wouldn't the speech in the video constitute incitement? If not, what
    more would she have to say to qualify?

    Under Brandenburg vs Ohio, it would have to be exhortation to imminent lawless action. The video would fail the "imminent" prong of the test.



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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 26 14:14:18 2025
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Cynthia Gonzalez, the deputy mayor of Cudahy, a small enclave in Los Angeles, >>recently posted a video calling for the ultra-violent 18th Street Gang and >>Florencia 13, an arm of the Mexican Mafia, to rise up against ICE and defend >>their territory.

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937684132596686848/vid/avc1/576x1024/7h6nahQC2cX9GUnF.mp4

    The Los Angeles Division of the FBI has opened a criminal investigation into >>Gonzalez and has already paid her a visit at her home. Hopefully she was >>stupid enough to talk to them.

    Gonzalez' Facebook page reveals her to be a radical, anti-American >>"revanchist", a Mexican-American group that seeks to recover Texas, Arizona, >>New Mexico and California as territory of Mexico.

    Why have FBI visit her? Let her talk to the Army.

    I'm changing my answer. The Socialist Republic of California really
    pissed me off today. The locally-owned business closed up shop. They
    sold lawn mowers, snow blowers, various small-engine tools for the yard.
    Years ago I bought a Honda walk behind push lawnmower with four-stroke
    engine from them, entirely made in America. These things last 20 years
    but weren't selling well against lower-cost crap.

    All gasoline-powered mowers are illegal in California now. The state was
    a big share of the market. That was the last straw for Honda and they
    closed the factory.

    I use three gallons of gas in it all summer. Yeah, that tips the scale
    in global warming.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 26 14:47:23 2025
    On Jun 25, 2025 at 9:14:18 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Cynthia Gonzalez, the deputy mayor of Cudahy, a small enclave in Los Angeles,
    recently posted a video calling for the ultra-violent 18th Street Gang and >>> Florencia 13, an arm of the Mexican Mafia, to rise up against ICE and defend
    their territory.


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937684132596686848/vid/avc1/576x1024/7h6nahQC2cX9GUnF.mp4

    The Los Angeles Division of the FBI has opened a criminal investigation into
    Gonzalez and has already paid her a visit at her home. Hopefully she was >>> stupid enough to talk to them.

    Gonzalez' Facebook page reveals her to be a radical, anti-American
    "revanchist", a Mexican-American group that seeks to recover Texas, Arizona,
    New Mexico and California as territory of Mexico.

    Why have FBI visit her? Let her talk to the Army.

    I'm changing my answer. The Socialist Republic of California really
    pissed me off today. The locally-owned business closed up shop. They
    sold lawn mowers, snow blowers, various small-engine tools for the yard. Years ago I bought a Honda walk behind push lawnmower with four-stroke
    engine from them, entirely made in America. These things last 20 years
    but weren't selling well against lower-cost crap.

    All gasoline-powered mowers are illegal in California now. The state was
    a big share of the market. That was the last straw for Honda and they
    closed the factory.

    I use three gallons of gas in it all summer. Yeah, that tips the scale
    in global warming.

    The good news is that Climate Cult's latest attempt to outlaw gas stoves and heaters failed. They were proposing to force everyone with natural gas-powered appliances to retrofit their homes and businesses and install new electric appliances. This would, in addition to the cost of the appliances themselves, cost the average homeowner upwards of $10,000 to comply with. They very nearly got hauled out of their offices by their hair and set on fire. The blowback
    was tremendous. The measure overwhelmingly failed in a 10-2 vote.



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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 27 12:54:52 2025
    On 2025-06-26 12:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jun 25, 2025 at 9:14:18 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Cynthia Gonzalez, the deputy mayor of Cudahy, a small enclave in Los Angeles,
    recently posted a video calling for the ultra-violent 18th Street Gang and >>>> Florencia 13, an arm of the Mexican Mafia, to rise up against ICE and defend
    their territory.


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937684132596686848/vid/avc1/576x1024/7h6nahQC2cX9GUnF.mp4

    The Los Angeles Division of the FBI has opened a criminal investigation into
    Gonzalez and has already paid her a visit at her home. Hopefully she was >>>> stupid enough to talk to them.

    Gonzalez' Facebook page reveals her to be a radical, anti-American
    "revanchist", a Mexican-American group that seeks to recover Texas, Arizona,
    New Mexico and California as territory of Mexico.

    Why have FBI visit her? Let her talk to the Army.

    I'm changing my answer. The Socialist Republic of California really
    pissed me off today. The locally-owned business closed up shop. They
    sold lawn mowers, snow blowers, various small-engine tools for the yard.
    Years ago I bought a Honda walk behind push lawnmower with four-stroke
    engine from them, entirely made in America. These things last 20 years
    but weren't selling well against lower-cost crap.

    All gasoline-powered mowers are illegal in California now. The state was
    a big share of the market. That was the last straw for Honda and they
    closed the factory.

    I use three gallons of gas in it all summer. Yeah, that tips the scale
    in global warming.

    The good news is that Climate Cult's latest attempt to outlaw gas stoves and heaters failed. They were proposing to force everyone with natural gas-powered
    appliances to retrofit their homes and businesses and install new electric appliances. This would, in addition to the cost of the appliances themselves, cost the average homeowner upwards of $10,000 to comply with. They very nearly
    got hauled out of their offices by their hair and set on fire. The blowback was tremendous. The measure overwhelmingly failed in a 10-2 vote.


    Did anyone at all do any calculations to make sure California's
    electrical grid could handle millions of new electrical appliances and heaters? Given all the brownouts you have already, it would seem
    incredibly irresponsible to force the adoption of still more electrical devices....

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 27 13:12:28 2025
    On Jun 26, 2025 at 7:54:52 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-26 12:47 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jun 25, 2025 at 9:14:18 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Cynthia Gonzalez, the deputy mayor of Cudahy, a small enclave in Los >>>>> Angeles,
    recently posted a video calling for the ultra-violent 18th Street Gang and
    Florencia 13, an arm of the Mexican Mafia, to rise up against ICE and defend
    their territory.



    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937684132596686848/vid/avc1/576x1024/7h6nahQC2cX9GUnF.mp4

    The Los Angeles Division of the FBI has opened a criminal investigation into
    Gonzalez and has already paid her a visit at her home. Hopefully she was >>>>> stupid enough to talk to them.

    Gonzalez' Facebook page reveals her to be a radical, anti-American
    "revanchist", a Mexican-American group that seeks to recover Texas, Arizona,
    New Mexico and California as territory of Mexico.

    Why have FBI visit her? Let her talk to the Army.

    I'm changing my answer. The Socialist Republic of California really
    pissed me off today. The locally-owned business closed up shop. They
    sold lawn mowers, snow blowers, various small-engine tools for the yard. >>> Years ago I bought a Honda walk behind push lawnmower with four-stroke
    engine from them, entirely made in America. These things last 20 years
    but weren't selling well against lower-cost crap.

    All gasoline-powered mowers are illegal in California now. The state was >>> a big share of the market. That was the last straw for Honda and they
    closed the factory.

    I use three gallons of gas in it all summer. Yeah, that tips the scale
    in global warming.

    The good news is that Climate Cult's latest attempt to outlaw gas stoves and
    heaters failed. They were proposing to force everyone with natural
    gas-powered
    appliances to retrofit their homes and businesses and install new electric >> appliances. This would, in addition to the cost of the appliances
    themselves,
    cost the average homeowner upwards of $10,000 to comply with. They very
    nearly
    got hauled out of their offices by their hair and set on fire. The blowback >> was tremendous. The measure overwhelmingly failed in a 10-2 vote.


    Did anyone at all do any calculations to make sure California's
    electrical grid could handle millions of new electrical appliances and heaters?

    Of course not. They probably think power failures are a good thing. After all, when the power's out, there are no emissions at all and their Climate God will be appeased. Plus, they're all rich, so they have generators to see them through any inconvenient outages.

    Given all the brownouts you have already, it would seem
    incredibly irresponsible to force the adoption of still more electrical devices....




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