• Re: death of Sony Bravia tv

    From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Aug 18 23:28:55 2025
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:53:20 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 8/17/25 1:42 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    . . .

    Using a computer monitor is certainly an option, but you would
    probably want separate speakers as computer monitor speakers tend to
    be really weak.

    A tv's built-in speakers probably suck too.

    The tv itself switches input. The tv's audio path outputs to a stereo.
    I've got two speakers plus a subwoofer.

    I do most of my TV watching on this 34 inch ultra wide
    monitor since most of what I watch is either streaming or content I've >>>> downloaded. It works for me since I'm the only one watching, but I do
    have a TV set to the side that I'll use when watching something live
    from broadcast networks.

    Is ultra wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio?

    As for TVs I know when I was considering a new one LG kept coming to
    the top. Though if you want to go cheaper then HiSense is a good
    option. Of course if you go all out then Sony is likely the best for
    their top of the line OLED TVs.

    I've seen bad reviews of HiSense in the past. I wasn't thinking about
    OLED but I could check it out.

    Thanks to Melissa and shawn

    Uh... Did you read the rest of this thread?!


    who are you and why are you here?

    If only you had kept making lists people would remember you.

    LOL.


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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Aug 19 00:33:19 2025
    On 8/17/2025 2:03 PM, shawn wrote:

    Good luck with your hunt. As was suggested in another post it may be
    possible to fix your old TV if you want to go that route. I know I had
    an old TV back around 2000 that was new at the time and kept switching
    off when you first turned it on. If you then turned it on a second
    time it would work fine. Turns out it was a bad chip that was easily
    replaced once you lugged the TV (remember this was tube time) to a
    repair shop. So maybe it's something similar where a chip is
    overheating and causing your troubles.

    No one will even attempt repairs on modern flat screen TVs. Haven't for
    at least a decade. There aren't individual "parts" you can replace, its
    all integrated.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Aug 19 01:01:36 2025
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    Agreed but there are TVs that will work without being connected to the >Internet and then others that need to be connected. For me I have no
    need to have my TV connected to the Internet.

    I've found the tv's network connection useful for Wifi and router
    testing. It had myriad built-in apps, all of which were abandoned by
    their manufacturers within a couple of years of purchase. Except for
    testing, there's no need for the Wifi to be connected.

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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Aug 19 01:38:03 2025
    Verily, in article <107vdje$33v07$1@dont-email.me>, did
    dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
    No one will even attempt repairs on modern flat screen TVs. Haven't for
    at least a decade. There aren't individual "parts" you can replace, its
    all integrated.

    Disposable culture sucks. I hope someone figures out a decent purpose
    for all those landfills of old electronics.

    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Aug 19 01:58:34 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:

    No one will even attempt repairs on modern flat screen TVs. Haven't for >>at least a decade. There aren't individual "parts" you can replace, its >>all integrated.

    Disposable culture sucks. I hope someone figures out a decent purpose
    for all those landfills of old electronics.

    There's nothing harmful to the environment about properly disposed of electronic waste. We know how to design landfills so nearby underground acquifers are not contaminated. Landfills that leak were improperly
    designed and constructed.

    We know how to avoid creating new Superfund sites.

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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Aug 19 02:29:46 2025
    Verily, in article <107vija$35s8r$1@dont-email.me>, did ahk@chinet.com
    deliver unto us this message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:

    No one will even attempt repairs on modern flat screen TVs. Haven't for >>at least a decade. There aren't individual "parts" you can replace, its >>all integrated.

    Disposable culture sucks. I hope someone figures out a decent purpose
    for all those landfills of old electronics.

    There's nothing harmful to the environment about properly disposed of electronic waste. We know how to design landfills so nearby underground acquifers are not contaminated. Landfills that leak were improperly
    designed and constructed.

    We know how to avoid creating new Superfund sites.

    That's good, but it doesn't make all the waste any better. People know
    how to make items that last, but we no longer want that. Planned
    obsolesence is like a subscription model for appliances.

    We put up with it because new things are shiny.

    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Aug 19 02:54:11 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    ahk@chinet.com deliver unto us this message:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:

    No one will even attempt repairs on modern flat screen TVs. Haven't for >>>>at least a decade. There aren't individual "parts" you can replace, its >>>>all integrated.

    Disposable culture sucks. I hope someone figures out a decent purpose >>>for all those landfills of old electronics.

    There's nothing harmful to the environment about properly disposed of >>electronic waste. We know how to design landfills so nearby underground >>acquifers are not contaminated. Landfills that leak were improperly >>designed and constructed.

    We know how to avoid creating new Superfund sites.

    That's good, but it doesn't make all the waste any better. People know
    how to make items that last, but we no longer want that. Planned
    obsolesence is like a subscription model for appliances.

    We put up with it because new things are shiny.

    Tube tvs were designed to be repaired, but they were heavy. Taking them
    to the repair shop consumed time and energy, or taking the tubes out one
    by one, taking them to a store with a tube tester, was all very time
    consuming. I remember doing stuff like this when I was a kid.

    Everything is a tradeoff. Consumers have a clear preference for using
    their time for something else rather than small appliance repairs.

    It's not necessarily my preference. I use older stuff, either because it
    still has some life, or I just don't want to shop because I despise
    shopping. But tube testing was not fun.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Aug 19 10:39:26 2025
    On 8/18/2025 8:58 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:

    No one will even attempt repairs on modern flat screen TVs. Haven't for >>> at least a decade. There aren't individual "parts" you can replace, its >>> all integrated.

    Disposable culture sucks. I hope someone figures out a decent purpose
    for all those landfills of old electronics.

    There's nothing harmful to the environment about properly disposed of electronic waste. We know how to design landfills so nearby underground acquifers are not contaminated. Landfills that leak were improperly
    designed and constructed.

    We know how to avoid creating new Superfund sites.

    "But that's expensive and would cut into our executives' weekly bonuses!
    Plus the shareholders would vote us out if we cut their dividends by
    the $0.001 per share it would cost!"

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    dirty old man.

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