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    From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 02:27:27 2025
    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:

    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct"
    name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I'm more than a little surprised to see references to monsoons in your
    area. I always associate monsoons with southeast Asia and have actually
    spoken to people from there that describe literally months of the
    heaviest rain you can imagine each year. That doesn't sound like Phoenix
    to me!

    --
    Rhino


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  • From suzeeq@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 02:36:20 2025
    On 8/26/2025 9:27 AM, Rhino wrote:
    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:

    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power


    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct" name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I'm more than a little surprised to see references to monsoons in your
    area. I always associate monsoons with southeast Asia and have actually spoken to people from there that describe literally months of the
    heaviest rain you can imagine each year. That doesn't sound like Phoenix
    to me!


    When conditions are right, AZ gets loads of rain at once.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 02:37:49 2025
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:


    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct" name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    This isn't anim's first haboob. I remember him mentioning being through one before. I just thought he was watching a movie starring the Daddario.



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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 02:43:07 2025
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:


    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct" name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed my SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but
    alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80



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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 04:21:32 2025
    On 2025-08-26 12:36 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 8/26/2025 9:27 AM, Rhino wrote:
    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:

    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-
    rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the
    "correct" name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I'm more than a little surprised to see references to monsoons in your
    area. I always associate monsoons with southeast Asia and have
    actually spoken to people from there that describe literally months of
    the heaviest rain you can imagine each year. That doesn't sound like
    Phoenix to me!


    When conditions are right, AZ gets loads of rain at once.

    How long does this rain last? Asians monsoons last *weeks* and even
    MONTHS depending on where they are. (I know a guy from Malaysia who says
    they get 5 months of monsoon each year. I'm not clear if that's 5 months
    of non-stop rain back to back or 5 months in bursts spread throughout
    the year.) I'm certain Phoenix doesn't get that much rain!

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 04:22:23 2025
    On 2025-08-26 12:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:


    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct"
    name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    This isn't anim's first haboob. I remember him mentioning being through one before. I just thought he was watching a movie starring the Daddario.


    An easy mistake to make ;-)

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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 04:24:20 2025
    On 2025-08-26 12:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:


    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct"
    name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80


    Sounds truly treacherous. We have our own equivalent up here, the "white
    out" but with snow instead of dust. Definitely time to pull well off the
    road immediately when you encounter one.

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    Rhino

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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 04:42:22 2025
    On 8/26/25 9:37 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:


    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct"
    name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    This isn't anim's first haboob. I remember him mentioning being through one before. I just thought he was watching a movie starring the Daddario.

    She's bad luck!!



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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 04:44:23 2025
    On 8/26/25 9:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:


    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct"
    name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80

    That actually brings up a really good question - What ever happened to
    Arnold Vosloo?! I haven't seem him in years - at least a decade or more...



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  • From shawn@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 04:58:42 2025
    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 14:21:32 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-26 12:36 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 8/26/2025 9:27 AM, Rhino wrote:
    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:

    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-
    rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the
    "correct" name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I'm more than a little surprised to see references to monsoons in your
    area. I always associate monsoons with southeast Asia and have
    actually spoken to people from there that describe literally months of
    the heaviest rain you can imagine each year. That doesn't sound like
    Phoenix to me!


    When conditions are right, AZ gets loads of rain at once.

    How long does this rain last? Asians monsoons last *weeks* and even
    MONTHS depending on where they are. (I know a guy from Malaysia who says >they get 5 months of monsoon each year. I'm not clear if that's 5 months
    of non-stop rain back to back or 5 months in bursts spread throughout
    the year.) I'm certain Phoenix doesn't get that much rain!

    The rain doesn't last long. We are talking about a day or two. I
    remember being in Phoenix in August just a day after the rain had hit.
    It was humid that morning but by the next day there was no sign it had
    rained.

    As with Malaysia it's clear that isn't months of constant rain.
    Without breaks with sun the trees would have died off. I imagine it's
    a bit like Florida with daily rain, but it's just huge amounts of rain
    compared to the lighter rain that Florida gets in the summer.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 05:09:58 2025
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 11:24:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-26 12:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:



    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct" >>> name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near
    Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed >> my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and >> waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but >> alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80


    Sounds truly treacherous. We have our own equivalent up here, the "white out" but with snow instead of dust. Definitely time to pull well off the road immediately when you encounter one.

    I went through one of those this past January when I drove back to L.A. from Texas. We went up through Colorado to visit some friends of the girlfriend in Grand Junction, which meant we had to cross over the Monarch Pass through the Rockies. At 11,300 feet, the wind blowing the snow was so intense, I couldn't see more than a foot or two ahead and the road was twisting and turning
    through switchbacks with sheer drops on one side and nowhere to pull over. And I was in low gear to let the engine do the braking so I wouldn't burn out my brakes coming down the other side. Pretty intense 45 minutes.



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  • From shawn@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 05:26:38 2025
    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 19:09:58 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 11:24:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >wrote:

    On 2025-08-26 12:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:



    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the >>>> worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again, >>>> this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the >>>> whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct" >>>> name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near
    Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed
    my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and
    waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but >>> alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80


    Sounds truly treacherous. We have our own equivalent up here, the "white
    out" but with snow instead of dust. Definitely time to pull well off the
    road immediately when you encounter one.

    I went through one of those this past January when I drove back to L.A. from >Texas. We went up through Colorado to visit some friends of the girlfriend in >Grand Junction, which meant we had to cross over the Monarch Pass through the >Rockies. At 11,300 feet, the wind blowing the snow was so intense, I couldn't >see more than a foot or two ahead and the road was twisting and turning >through switchbacks with sheer drops on one side and nowhere to pull over. And >I was in low gear to let the engine do the braking so I wouldn't burn out my >brakes coming down the other side. Pretty intense 45 minutes.

    I can't imagine going into something like that with perfect weather,
    let alone with blowing snow. It's bad enough to have sheer drops on
    one side, but both? Ack!

    Closest I came to something like you describe was when I was just
    about to enter the twisting path of the mountains just north of
    Atlanta. I could see the twisting road ahead just as sun was coming
    down. What I didn't know was that in January the cloud cover comes in
    at night fall. So I could see it moving in and knew I would be driving
    into it with those sheer drops off to one side. Needless to since I
    was just driving for fun I turned around and went the other way.

    At 11300 feet you can expect it. I still remember the white
    out/blizzard we had here in Atlanta back in 1994. It was amazing to
    see but not fun to be out in. Luckily they shut down most of the roads
    so very few people were out in it like me. Though I was just walking
    in to work since it was only about a mile away. The wind was whipping
    the snow so hard it felt like needles on my face. I could see about
    10-15 feet in front of me. Can't imagine what it's like in places
    where that is a common occurrence.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 05:30:10 2025
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 12:26:38 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 19:09:58 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 11:24:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:

    On 2025-08-26 12:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay: >>>>>



    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the >>>>> worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again, >>>>> this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the >>>>> whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct" >>>>> name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near >>>> Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed
    my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and
    waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but
    alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80


    Sounds truly treacherous. We have our own equivalent up here, the "white >>> out" but with snow instead of dust. Definitely time to pull well off the >>> road immediately when you encounter one.

    I went through one of those this past January when I drove back to L.A. from >> Texas. We went up through Colorado to visit some friends of the girlfriend in
    Grand Junction, which meant we had to cross over the Monarch Pass through the
    Rockies. At 11,300 feet, the wind blowing the snow was so intense, I couldn't
    see more than a foot or two ahead and the road was twisting and turning
    through switchbacks with sheer drops on one side and nowhere to pull over. >> And
    I was in low gear to let the engine do the braking so I wouldn't burn out my >> brakes coming down the other side. Pretty intense 45 minutes.

    I can't imagine going into something like that with perfect weather,
    let alone with blowing snow. It's bad enough to have sheer drops on
    one side, but both? Ack!

    Closest I came to something like you describe was when I was just
    about to enter the twisting path of the mountains just north of
    Atlanta. I could see the twisting road ahead just as sun was coming
    down. What I didn't know was that in January the cloud cover comes in
    at night fall. So I could see it moving in and knew I would be driving
    into it with those sheer drops off to one side. Needless to since I
    was just driving for fun I turned around and went the other way.

    At 11300 feet you can expect it. I still remember the white
    out/blizzard we had here in Atlanta back in 1994. It was amazing to
    see but not fun to be out in. Luckily they shut down most of the roads
    so very few people were out in it like me. Though I was just walking
    in to work since it was only about a mile away. The wind was whipping
    the snow so hard it felt like needles on my face. I could see about
    10-15 feet in front of me. Can't imagine what it's like in places
    where that is a common occurrence.

    In Antarctica, they tie ropes between the buildings at the research stations and you have to clip onto them when crossing from one to the other because the whiteouts there are so complete, you can get lost mere steps away from your destination and never be seen again.



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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 06:03:48 2025
    On 8/26/25 12:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 12:26:38 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 19:09:58 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 11:24:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:
    On 2025-08-26 12:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay: >>>>>>



    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again, >>>>>> this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct"
    name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near >>>>> Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed
    my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and
    waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but
    alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80

    Sounds truly treacherous. We have our own equivalent up here, the "white >>>> out" but with snow instead of dust. Definitely time to pull well off the >>>> road immediately when you encounter one.

    I went through one of those this past January when I drove back to L.A. from
    Texas. We went up through Colorado to visit some friends of the girlfriend in
    Grand Junction, which meant we had to cross over the Monarch Pass through the
    Rockies. At 11,300 feet, the wind blowing the snow was so intense, I couldn't
    see more than a foot or two ahead and the road was twisting and turning
    through switchbacks with sheer drops on one side and nowhere to pull over. >>> And
    I was in low gear to let the engine do the braking so I wouldn't burn out my
    brakes coming down the other side. Pretty intense 45 minutes.

    I can't imagine going into something like that with perfect weather,
    let alone with blowing snow. It's bad enough to have sheer drops on
    one side, but both? Ack!

    Closest I came to something like you describe was when I was just
    about to enter the twisting path of the mountains just north of
    Atlanta. I could see the twisting road ahead just as sun was coming
    down. What I didn't know was that in January the cloud cover comes in
    at night fall. So I could see it moving in and knew I would be driving
    into it with those sheer drops off to one side. Needless to since I
    was just driving for fun I turned around and went the other way.

    At 11300 feet you can expect it. I still remember the white
    out/blizzard we had here in Atlanta back in 1994. It was amazing to
    see but not fun to be out in. Luckily they shut down most of the roads
    so very few people were out in it like me. Though I was just walking
    in to work since it was only about a mile away. The wind was whipping
    the snow so hard it felt like needles on my face. I could see about
    10-15 feet in front of me. Can't imagine what it's like in places
    where that is a common occurrence.

    In Antarctica, they tie ropes between the buildings at the research stations and you have to clip onto them when crossing from one to the other because the
    whiteouts there are so complete, you can get lost mere steps away from your destination and never be seen again.

    I'm pretty sure there's a Kate Beckinsale movie about that!! ;p



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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 06:17:39 2025
    On 2025-08-26 3:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 11:24:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-26 12:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:



    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the >>>> worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again, >>>> this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the >>>> whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct" >>>> name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near >>> Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed
    my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and
    waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but >>> alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80


    Sounds truly treacherous. We have our own equivalent up here, the "white
    out" but with snow instead of dust. Definitely time to pull well off the
    road immediately when you encounter one.

    I went through one of those this past January when I drove back to L.A. fromI Texas. We went up through Colorado to visit some friends of the girlfriend in Grand Junction, which meant we had to cross over the Monarch Pass through the Rockies. At 11,300 feet, the wind blowing the snow was so intense, I couldn't see more than a foot or two ahead and the road was twisting and turning through switchbacks with sheer drops on one side and nowhere to pull over. And
    I was in low gear to let the engine do the braking so I wouldn't burn out my brakes coming down the other side. Pretty intense 45 minutes.


    I'll bet! I would probably crap myself in a situation like that because pulling over is next to impossible since there's nowhere to go - unless
    you WANT to drive off a cliff - and staying on the road, even if you can
    do it, means you've got a great chance of being either hit by oncoming
    traffic or rear-ended by the guy behind you who didn't realize you were
    there.

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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 06:28:17 2025
    On 2025-08-26 3:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 12:26:38 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 19:09:58 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 11:24:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2025-08-26 12:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay: >>>>>>



    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again, >>>>>> this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct"
    name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near >>>>> Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed
    my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and
    waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but
    alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80


    Sounds truly treacherous. We have our own equivalent up here, the "white >>>> out" but with snow instead of dust. Definitely time to pull well off the >>>> road immediately when you encounter one.

    I went through one of those this past January when I drove back to L.A. from
    Texas. We went up through Colorado to visit some friends of the girlfriend in
    Grand Junction, which meant we had to cross over the Monarch Pass through the
    Rockies. At 11,300 feet, the wind blowing the snow was so intense, I couldn't
    see more than a foot or two ahead and the road was twisting and turning
    through switchbacks with sheer drops on one side and nowhere to pull over. >>> And
    I was in low gear to let the engine do the braking so I wouldn't burn out my
    brakes coming down the other side. Pretty intense 45 minutes.

    I can't imagine going into something like that with perfect weather,
    let alone with blowing snow. It's bad enough to have sheer drops on
    one side, but both? Ack!

    Closest I came to something like you describe was when I was just
    about to enter the twisting path of the mountains just north of
    Atlanta. I could see the twisting road ahead just as sun was coming
    down. What I didn't know was that in January the cloud cover comes in
    at night fall. So I could see it moving in and knew I would be driving
    into it with those sheer drops off to one side. Needless to since I
    was just driving for fun I turned around and went the other way.

    At 11300 feet you can expect it. I still remember the white
    out/blizzard we had here in Atlanta back in 1994. It was amazing to
    see but not fun to be out in. Luckily they shut down most of the roads
    so very few people were out in it like me. Though I was just walking
    in to work since it was only about a mile away. The wind was whipping
    the snow so hard it felt like needles on my face. I could see about
    10-15 feet in front of me. Can't imagine what it's like in places
    where that is a common occurrence.

    In Antarctica, they tie ropes between the buildings at the research stations and you have to clip onto them when crossing from one to the other because the
    whiteouts there are so complete, you can get lost mere steps away from your destination and never be seen again.



    I read about an elderly couple who had died in a bad storm a few years
    back. They lived on a farm. I don't think they were actively farming any
    more but still had a barn and a few animals to tend. The husband went
    out in the storm to tend to the animals. When he hadn't returned after a couple of hours, his wife went to look for him. They were found
    separately, frozen to death, apparently unable to find barn or house in
    the blizzard. I heard stories growing up about farmers who died this way
    in blizzards but had thought we were somehow past that kind of thing.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 06:52:31 2025
    On 2025-08-26 3:26 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 19:09:58 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 11:24:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:

    On 2025-08-26 12:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay: >>>>>


    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the >>>>> worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again, >>>>> this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the >>>>> whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct" >>>>> name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near >>>> Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed
    my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and
    waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but
    alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80


    Sounds truly treacherous. We have our own equivalent up here, the "white >>> out" but with snow instead of dust. Definitely time to pull well off the >>> road immediately when you encounter one.

    I went through one of those this past January when I drove back to L.A. from >> Texas. We went up through Colorado to visit some friends of the girlfriend in
    Grand Junction, which meant we had to cross over the Monarch Pass through the
    Rockies. At 11,300 feet, the wind blowing the snow was so intense, I couldn't
    see more than a foot or two ahead and the road was twisting and turning
    through switchbacks with sheer drops on one side and nowhere to pull over. And
    I was in low gear to let the engine do the braking so I wouldn't burn out my >> brakes coming down the other side. Pretty intense 45 minutes.

    I can't imagine going into something like that with perfect weather,
    let alone with blowing snow. It's bad enough to have sheer drops on
    one side, but both? Ack!

    Closest I came to something like you describe was when I was just
    about to enter the twisting path of the mountains just north of
    Atlanta. I could see the twisting road ahead just as sun was coming
    down. What I didn't know was that in January the cloud cover comes in
    at night fall. So I could see it moving in and knew I would be driving
    into it with those sheer drops off to one side. Needless to since I
    was just driving for fun I turned around and went the other way.

    At 11300 feet you can expect it. I still remember the white
    out/blizzard we had here in Atlanta back in 1994. It was amazing to
    see but not fun to be out in. Luckily they shut down most of the roads
    so very few people were out in it like me. Though I was just walking
    in to work since it was only about a mile away. The wind was whipping
    the snow so hard it felt like needles on my face. I could see about
    10-15 feet in front of me. Can't imagine what it's like in places
    where that is a common occurrence.

    Snow is actually kinda pretty at times, especially the first proper
    snowfall - as opposed to flurries - of the year. But it gets REALLY
    tedious when you have to shovel it or drive in it. I've certainly been
    caught in some bad storms over the years. But the weather is very inconsistent. I can remember winters that started in mid-October - I'm
    talking about snow that didn't finally melt away until spring - and I
    can remember winters where we didn't get the first snow until almost the
    end of January. Two winters ago, we had a really mild winter that barely qualified as winter; the only "snow day" we had was actually in April
    when all the snow was gone but we had to do it because there was a near
    total eclipse at exactly the time we were taking kids home and there
    were concerns that some would look at it and blind themselves. This past winter was somewhat erratic but we had one very severe snowstorm and
    some lesser ones and it seemed to take forever - late May - for spring
    to start.

    I imagine it will be many years between snowfalls for people in Atlanta:
    I have to admit to some envy over that. But you learn to deal with snow
    if you live in a place that has it and can minimize the problems. I
    think it's got to be a lot harder for you since you won't have any snow ploughs, snow tires, or any experience at how to drive on snow or ice.
    I've seen footage of how people in places that never or rarely see snow
    find their cars sliding uncontrollably down hills....

    Mind you, we get some of that even here. I lived in Toronto for 8 years
    and every time we had the first snow fall of the year, however minor it
    was, traffic slowed to a crawl. I'd never seen that anywhere else I'd
    lived in Ontario and was initially baffled. Then I realized that it must
    be because of the recent immigrants. At the time, we were getting about 300,000 immigrants a year and most were coming from hot climates like
    Hong Kong that never saw snow. Then it all made sense. Just picture
    thousands of new arrivals from tropical locales seeing snow for the
    first time and realizing they have no idea how to drive on it. They were obviously slowing down dramatically because they didn't know what they
    were dealing with and exercising sensible caution. The next snowfall
    would see traffic return to normalcy. I assume that's because the new
    arrivals had gotten their "snow legs" and were no longer terrified of
    the snow or driving on it.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 06:53:44 2025
    On 2025-08-26 2:44 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 8/26/25 9:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:


    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-
    rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct"
    name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near
    Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and
    engulfed my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely
    see, and
    waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but
    alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80

    That actually brings up a really good question - What ever happened to Arnold Vosloo?! I haven't seem him in years - at least a decade or more...



    He seems to be active according to IMDB but I don't recognize many of
    the titles in his listing, especially most of the recent ones.

    --
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  • From shawn@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 07:40:56 2025
    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 19:30:10 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 12:26:38 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 19:09:58 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 11:24:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2025-08-26 12:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay: >>>>>>



    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the >>>>>> worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again, >>>>>> this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the >>>>>> whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct"
    name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near >>>>> Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed
    my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and
    waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but
    alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80


    Sounds truly treacherous. We have our own equivalent up here, the "white >>>> out" but with snow instead of dust. Definitely time to pull well off the >>>> road immediately when you encounter one.

    I went through one of those this past January when I drove back to L.A. from
    Texas. We went up through Colorado to visit some friends of the girlfriend in
    Grand Junction, which meant we had to cross over the Monarch Pass through the
    Rockies. At 11,300 feet, the wind blowing the snow was so intense, I couldn't
    see more than a foot or two ahead and the road was twisting and turning
    through switchbacks with sheer drops on one side and nowhere to pull over. >>> And
    I was in low gear to let the engine do the braking so I wouldn't burn out my
    brakes coming down the other side. Pretty intense 45 minutes.

    I can't imagine going into something like that with perfect weather,
    let alone with blowing snow. It's bad enough to have sheer drops on
    one side, but both? Ack!

    Closest I came to something like you describe was when I was just
    about to enter the twisting path of the mountains just north of
    Atlanta. I could see the twisting road ahead just as sun was coming
    down. What I didn't know was that in January the cloud cover comes in
    at night fall. So I could see it moving in and knew I would be driving
    into it with those sheer drops off to one side. Needless to since I
    was just driving for fun I turned around and went the other way.

    At 11300 feet you can expect it. I still remember the white
    out/blizzard we had here in Atlanta back in 1994. It was amazing to
    see but not fun to be out in. Luckily they shut down most of the roads
    so very few people were out in it like me. Though I was just walking
    in to work since it was only about a mile away. The wind was whipping
    the snow so hard it felt like needles on my face. I could see about
    10-15 feet in front of me. Can't imagine what it's like in places
    where that is a common occurrence.

    In Antarctica, they tie ropes between the buildings at the research stations >and you have to clip onto them when crossing from one to the other because the >whiteouts there are so complete, you can get lost mere steps away from your >destination and never be seen again.


    Yeah, that was one of the places I had in mind. Not much choice when
    not only do you have whiteouts but also 70MPH winds are common during
    the storms.

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  • From shawn@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 07:46:00 2025
    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 16:52:31 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-26 3:26 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 19:09:58 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 11:24:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2025-08-26 12:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay: >>>>>>


    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the >>>>>> worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again, >>>>>> this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the >>>>>> whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct"
    name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near >>>>> Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed
    my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and
    waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but
    alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80


    Sounds truly treacherous. We have our own equivalent up here, the "white >>>> out" but with snow instead of dust. Definitely time to pull well off the >>>> road immediately when you encounter one.

    I went through one of those this past January when I drove back to L.A. from
    Texas. We went up through Colorado to visit some friends of the girlfriend in
    Grand Junction, which meant we had to cross over the Monarch Pass through the
    Rockies. At 11,300 feet, the wind blowing the snow was so intense, I couldn't
    see more than a foot or two ahead and the road was twisting and turning
    through switchbacks with sheer drops on one side and nowhere to pull over. And
    I was in low gear to let the engine do the braking so I wouldn't burn out my
    brakes coming down the other side. Pretty intense 45 minutes.

    I can't imagine going into something like that with perfect weather,
    let alone with blowing snow. It's bad enough to have sheer drops on
    one side, but both? Ack!

    Closest I came to something like you describe was when I was just
    about to enter the twisting path of the mountains just north of
    Atlanta. I could see the twisting road ahead just as sun was coming
    down. What I didn't know was that in January the cloud cover comes in
    at night fall. So I could see it moving in and knew I would be driving
    into it with those sheer drops off to one side. Needless to since I
    was just driving for fun I turned around and went the other way.

    At 11300 feet you can expect it. I still remember the white
    out/blizzard we had here in Atlanta back in 1994. It was amazing to
    see but not fun to be out in. Luckily they shut down most of the roads
    so very few people were out in it like me. Though I was just walking
    in to work since it was only about a mile away. The wind was whipping
    the snow so hard it felt like needles on my face. I could see about
    10-15 feet in front of me. Can't imagine what it's like in places
    where that is a common occurrence.

    Snow is actually kinda pretty at times, especially the first proper
    snowfall - as opposed to flurries - of the year. But it gets REALLY
    tedious when you have to shovel it or drive in it. I've certainly been >caught in some bad storms over the years. But the weather is very >inconsistent. I can remember winters that started in mid-October - I'm >talking about snow that didn't finally melt away until spring - and I
    can remember winters where we didn't get the first snow until almost the
    end of January. Two winters ago, we had a really mild winter that barely >qualified as winter; the only "snow day" we had was actually in April
    when all the snow was gone but we had to do it because there was a near >total eclipse at exactly the time we were taking kids home and there
    were concerns that some would look at it and blind themselves. This past >winter was somewhat erratic but we had one very severe snowstorm and
    some lesser ones and it seemed to take forever - late May - for spring
    to start.

    Yeah, I got to experience that sort of constant snow when we lived in
    Elgin, Illinois (outside of Chicago). I can still remember being
    bundled as a little kid and having to walk to my school in the middle
    of winter with snow and ice everywhere. It wasn't too bad since I
    could see my school from our yard.

    I imagine it will be many years between snowfalls for people in Atlanta:
    I have to admit to some envy over that. But you learn to deal with snow
    if you live in a place that has it and can minimize the problems. I
    think it's got to be a lot harder for you since you won't have any snow >ploughs, snow tires, or any experience at how to drive on snow or ice.
    I've seen footage of how people in places that never or rarely see snow
    find their cars sliding uncontrollably down hills....
    Cars and people.

    We tend to get at least a dusting of snow a few times every year. As
    for the heavier snow that's something that happens every few years. So
    people around here are not used to it, but then given how many drive
    in the heavy rains I'm not surprised.

    Mind you, we get some of that even here. I lived in Toronto for 8 years
    and every time we had the first snow fall of the year, however minor it
    was, traffic slowed to a crawl. I'd never seen that anywhere else I'd
    lived in Ontario and was initially baffled. Then I realized that it must
    be because of the recent immigrants. At the time, we were getting about >300,000 immigrants a year and most were coming from hot climates like
    Hong Kong that never saw snow. Then it all made sense. Just picture >thousands of new arrivals from tropical locales seeing snow for the
    first time and realizing they have no idea how to drive on it. They were >obviously slowing down dramatically because they didn't know what they
    were dealing with and exercising sensible caution. The next snowfall
    would see traffic return to normalcy. I assume that's because the new >arrivals had gotten their "snow legs" and were no longer terrified of
    the snow or driving on it.

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  • From suzeeq@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 10:11:25 2025
    On 8/26/2025 1:28 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-08-26 3:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 12:26:38 PM PDT, "shawn"
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 19:09:58 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 11:24:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    ÿ On 2025-08-26 12:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    ÿÿ On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    ÿÿ wrote:
    ÿÿ I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're >>>>>>> okay:

    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    ÿÿ The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I
    assume the
    ÿÿ worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then >>>>>>> again,
    ÿÿ this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet
    telling the
    ÿÿ whole story and more harm was done during this event....
    ÿÿ I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the >>>>>>> "correct"
    ÿÿ name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?
    ÿÿ I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I
    was near
    ÿÿ Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere >>>>>> and engulfed
    ÿ my
    ÿÿ SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could
    barely see, and
    ÿÿ waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in
    the dust but
    ÿÿ alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...
    ÿÿ https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80
    ÿ Sounds truly treacherous. We have our own equivalent up here, the >>>>> "white
    ÿ out" but with snow instead of dust. Definitely time to pull well
    off the
    ÿ road immediately when you encounter one.

    I went through one of those this past January when I drove back to
    L.A. from
    Texas. We went up through Colorado to visit some friends of the
    girlfriend in
    Grand Junction, which meant we had to cross over the Monarch Pass
    through the
    Rockies. At 11,300 feet, the wind blowing the snow was so intense, I
    couldn't
    see more than a foot or two ahead and the road was twisting and turning >>>> through switchbacks with sheer drops on one side and nowhere to pull
    over.
    And
    I was in low gear to let the engine do the braking so I wouldn't
    burn out my
    brakes coming down the other side. Pretty intense 45 minutes.

    I can't imagine going into something like that with perfect weather,
    let alone with blowing snow. It's bad enough to have sheer drops on
    one side, but both? Ack!

    Closest I came to something like you describe was when I was just
    about to enter the twisting path of the mountains just north of
    Atlanta. I could see the twisting road ahead just as sun was coming
    down. What I didn't know was that in January the cloud cover comes in
    at night fall. So I could see it moving in and knew I would be driving
    into it with those sheer drops off to one side. Needless to since I
    was just driving for fun I turned around and went the other way.

    At 11300 feet you can expect it. I still remember the white
    out/blizzard we had here in Atlanta back in 1994. It was amazing to
    see but not fun to be out in. Luckily they shut down most of the roads
    so very few people were out in it like me. Though I was just walking
    in to work since it was only about a mile away. The wind was whipping
    the snow so hard it felt like needles on my face. I could see about
    10-15 feet in front of me. Can't imagine what it's like in places
    where that is a common occurrence.

    In Antarctica, they tie ropes between the buildings at the research
    stations
    and you have to clip onto them when crossing from one to the other
    because the
    whiteouts there are so complete, you can get lost mere steps away from
    your
    destination and never be seen again.



    I read about an elderly couple who had died in a bad storm a few years
    back. They lived on a farm. I don't think they were actively farming any more but still had a barn and a few animals to tend. The husband went
    out in the storm to tend to the animals. When he hadn't returned after a couple of hours, his wife went to look for him. They were found
    separately, frozen to death, apparently unable to find barn or house in
    the blizzard. I heard stories growing up about farmers who died this way
    in blizzards but had thought we were somehow past that kind of thing.

    My dad grew up in S Dakota and they used to put ropes up between
    building so they could find their way.

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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 27 18:30:43 2025
    BTR1701 wrote:

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct" >name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    ObTV:

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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Aug 28 11:18:34 2025
    On 8/26/25 9:27 AM, Rhino wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:

    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls- through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    Hmmmm... Anim hasn't posted since this happened.

    I'll shoot him an Email and see if he responds. (But it might be that
    his internet and/or phone are down...)




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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Aug 28 12:47:11 2025
    On 2025-08-27 9:18 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 8/26/25 9:27 AM, Rhino wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:

    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-
    rolls- through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    Hmmmm... Anim hasn't posted since this happened.

    Yeah, he's been conspicuous by his absence....>
    I'll shoot him an Email and see if he responds. (But it might be that
    his internet and/or phone are down...)


    That would be great. I imagine everything's fine but it would be nice to
    be sure.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Aug 28 12:56:52 2025
    On Aug 27, 2025 at 7:47:11 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-27 9:18 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 8/26/25 9:27 AM, Rhino wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:

    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-
    rolls- through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    Hmmmm... Anim hasn't posted since this happened.

    Yeah, he's been conspicuous by his absence....>
    I'll shoot him an Email and see if he responds. (But it might be that
    his internet and/or phone are down...)


    That would be great. I imagine everything's fine but it would be nice to
    be sure.

    He's been talking to me on the exTwitters today.



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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Aug 28 13:04:45 2025
    On 8/27/25 7:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Aug 27, 2025 at 7:47:11 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-27 9:18 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 8/26/25 9:27 AM, Rhino wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:

    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-
    rolls- through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    Hmmmm... Anim hasn't posted since this happened.

    Yeah, he's been conspicuous by his absence....

    I'll shoot him an Email and see if he responds. (But it might be that
    his internet and/or phone are down...)

    That would be great. I imagine everything's fine but it would be nice to
    be sure.

    He's been talking to me on the exTwitters today.

    Yeah, he replied to me. I'm guessing he's busy enough with other stuff
    that he hasn't stopped by RAT lately.




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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Aug 29 10:24:37 2025
    anim8rfsk <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:


    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the
    worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the
    whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct" >>> name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    This isn't anim's first haboob. I remember him mentioning being through one >> before. I just thought he was watching a movie starring the Daddario.




    Rowr




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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Aug 29 10:24:38 2025
    anim8rfsk <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-26 12:36 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 8/26/2025 9:27 AM, Rhino wrote:
    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:

    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-
    rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the >>>> worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again, >>>> this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the >>>> whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the
    "correct" name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I'm more than a little surprised to see references to monsoons in your >>>> area. I always associate monsoons with southeast Asia and have
    actually spoken to people from there that describe literally months of >>>> the heaviest rain you can imagine each year. That doesn't sound like
    Phoenix to me!


    When conditions are right, AZ gets loads of rain at once.

    How long does this rain last? Asians monsoons last *weeks* and even
    MONTHS depending on where they are. (I know a guy from Malaysia who says
    they get 5 months of monsoon each year. I'm not clear if that's 5 months
    of non-stop rain back to back or 5 months in bursts spread throughout
    the year.) I'm certain Phoenix doesn't get that much rain!


    The rain following this haboob only lasted half an hour or so.

    We get rains that are off and on for a few days at a time. We get 3 inches of monsoon rain, which is about a third of our annual rainfall.




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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Aug 29 10:24:39 2025
    anim8rfsk <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/26/25 9:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >>> wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:


    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the >>>> worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again,
    this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the >>>> whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct" >>>> name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near
    Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and >>> waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but >>> alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80

    That actually brings up a really good question - What ever happened to
    Arnold Vosloo?! I haven't seem him in years - at least a decade or more... >>

    He’s still active, doing a couple projects a year, including this year. Looks like he might have taken Covid season off.





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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Aug 29 10:24:40 2025
    anim8rfsk <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/26/25 12:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Aug 26, 2025 at 12:26:38 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
    wrote:
    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 19:09:58 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 11:24:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:
    On 2025-08-26 12:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 26, 2025 at 9:27:27 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay: >>>>>>>>



    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the >>>>>>>> worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again, >>>>>>>> this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the >>>>>>>> whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the "correct"
    name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I was once in a mini-haboob when I was driving to Yosemite. I was near >>>>>>> Bakersfield and suddenly this wall of dust came out of nowhere and engulfed
    my
    SUV. I pulled into a gas station parking lot, which I could barely see, and
    waited it out. I kept hoping to see the visage of Imhotep in the dust but
    alas, it wasn't supernaturally generated...

    https://youtu.be/ersxqFwDkWA?t=80

    Sounds truly treacherous. We have our own equivalent up here, the "white >>>>>> out" but with snow instead of dust. Definitely time to pull well off the >>>>>> road immediately when you encounter one.

    I went through one of those this past January when I drove back to L.A. from
    Texas. We went up through Colorado to visit some friends of the girlfriend in
    Grand Junction, which meant we had to cross over the Monarch Pass through the
    Rockies. At 11,300 feet, the wind blowing the snow was so intense, I couldn't
    see more than a foot or two ahead and the road was twisting and turning >>>>> through switchbacks with sheer drops on one side and nowhere to pull over.
    And
    I was in low gear to let the engine do the braking so I wouldn't burn out my
    brakes coming down the other side. Pretty intense 45 minutes.

    I can't imagine going into something like that with perfect weather,
    let alone with blowing snow. It's bad enough to have sheer drops on
    one side, but both? Ack!

    Closest I came to something like you describe was when I was just
    about to enter the twisting path of the mountains just north of
    Atlanta. I could see the twisting road ahead just as sun was coming
    down. What I didn't know was that in January the cloud cover comes in
    at night fall. So I could see it moving in and knew I would be driving >>>> into it with those sheer drops off to one side. Needless to since I
    was just driving for fun I turned around and went the other way.

    At 11300 feet you can expect it. I still remember the white
    out/blizzard we had here in Atlanta back in 1994. It was amazing to
    see but not fun to be out in. Luckily they shut down most of the roads >>>> so very few people were out in it like me. Though I was just walking
    in to work since it was only about a mile away. The wind was whipping
    the snow so hard it felt like needles on my face. I could see about
    10-15 feet in front of me. Can't imagine what it's like in places
    where that is a common occurrence.

    In Antarctica, they tie ropes between the buildings at the research stations
    and you have to clip onto them when crossing from one to the other because the
    whiteouts there are so complete, you can get lost mere steps away from your >>> destination and never be seen again.

    I'm pretty sure there's a Kate Beckinsale movie about that!! ;p


    Not to mention, Kurt Russell






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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Aug 29 10:24:43 2025
    anim8rfsk <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/27/25 7:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Aug 27, 2025 at 7:47:11 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >>> wrote:
    On 2025-08-27 9:18 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 8/26/25 9:27 AM, Rhino wrote:

    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay: >>>>>>
    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-
    rolls- through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    Hmmmm... Anim hasn't posted since this happened.

    Yeah, he's been conspicuous by his absence....

    I'll shoot him an Email and see if he responds. (But it might be that >>>>> his internet and/or phone are down...)

    That would be great. I imagine everything's fine but it would be nice to >>>> be sure.

    He's been talking to me on the exTwitters today.

    Yeah, he replied to me. I'm guessing he's busy enough with other stuff
    that he hasn't stopped by RAT lately.





    My phone is in fact down since the Haboob.
    But I’ve posted about all of that. In this thread and others. If you guys aren’t seeing my posts, I am mystified.




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  • From shawn@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Aug 29 10:44:51 2025
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:24:38 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    anim8rfsk <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-26 12:36 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 8/26/2025 9:27 AM, Rhino wrote:
    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay:

    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust-
    rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the >>>>> worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again, >>>>> this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the >>>>> whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the
    "correct" name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I'm more than a little surprised to see references to monsoons in your >>>>> area. I always associate monsoons with southeast Asia and have
    actually spoken to people from there that describe literally months of >>>>> the heaviest rain you can imagine each year. That doesn't sound like >>>>> Phoenix to me!


    When conditions are right, AZ gets loads of rain at once.

    How long does this rain last? Asians monsoons last *weeks* and even
    MONTHS depending on where they are. (I know a guy from Malaysia who says >>> they get 5 months of monsoon each year. I'm not clear if that's 5 months >>> of non-stop rain back to back or 5 months in bursts spread throughout
    the year.) I'm certain Phoenix doesn't get that much rain!


    The rain following this haboob only lasted half an hour or so.

    We get rains that are off and on for a few days at a time. We get 3 inches >> of monsoon rain, which is about a third of our annual rainfall.


    Did you mean to post a bunch of messages with nothing added? So far
    every message I just saw come through has no text added by you.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Aug 29 11:23:35 2025
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:24:38 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    anim8rfsk <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-26 12:36 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 8/26/2025 9:27 AM, Rhino wrote:
    I just saw this and thought I'd check in to make sure you're okay: >>>>>>
    https://www.castanet.net/news/World/568648/Towering-wall-of-dust- >>>>>> rolls-through-metro-Phoenix-leaving-thousands-without-power

    The article doesn't mention any fatalities or injuries so I assume the >>>>>> worst that's happened is that you lost power for a while. Then again, >>>>>> this apparently just happened so maybe the media isn't yet telling the >>>>>> whole story and more harm was done during this event....

    I can't say I've ever heard of a "haboob" before. Is that the
    "correct" name, with most people simply calling it a dust storm?

    I'm more than a little surprised to see references to monsoons in your >>>>>> area. I always associate monsoons with southeast Asia and have
    actually spoken to people from there that describe literally months of >>>>>> the heaviest rain you can imagine each year. That doesn't sound like >>>>>> Phoenix to me!


    When conditions are right, AZ gets loads of rain at once.

    How long does this rain last? Asians monsoons last *weeks* and even
    MONTHS depending on where they are. (I know a guy from Malaysia who says >>>> they get 5 months of monsoon each year. I'm not clear if that's 5 months >>>> of non-stop rain back to back or 5 months in bursts spread throughout >>>> the year.) I'm certain Phoenix doesn't get that much rain!


    The rain following this haboob only lasted half an hour or so.

    We get rains that are off and on for a few days at a time. We get 3 inches >>> of monsoon rain, which is about a third of our annual rainfall.


    Did you mean to post a bunch of messages with nothing added? So far
    every message I just saw come through has no text added by you.


    Yes. These are all the messages of the last seven days that didn’t go through. Unfortunately, it’s almost impossible in NewsTap to adjust the quotation levels so it all has an extra level of quote depth.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Aug 29 14:00:22 2025
    On 8/28/2025 6:23 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Yes. These are all the messages of the last seven days that didn’t go through. Unfortunately, it’s almost impossible in NewsTap to adjust the quotation levels so it all has an extra level of quote depth.

    An extra level of quote depth isn't going to make us think you are a
    deeper thinker though. :D

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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Sep 1 13:49:35 2025
    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 16:17:39 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I'll bet! I would probably crap myself in a situation like that because >pulling over is next to impossible since there's nowhere to go - unless
    you WANT to drive off a cliff - and staying on the road, even if you can
    do it, means you've got a great chance of being either hit by oncoming >traffic or rear-ended by the guy behind you who didn't realize you were >there.

    I once had a blow-out literally on the Ontario-Manitoba border in
    mid-winter (both Ontario and Manitoba had A-frames devoted to giving
    out tourist information about 500' on each side of the border - and my
    blow-out was between the two huts which of course were unoccupied in
    the first week of January. The important part of this was that the
    "shoulders" were less than a foot wide and had I failed to keep my car
    on the road I would have gone down a 15' embankment. I lucked out and
    flagged down a trucker who promised to get a tow-truck sent out to me
    when he got to Kenora (first town on the Ontario side - about 15-20
    miles away) All this in minus 30 temperatures. Naturally I left my
    flashers going the whole time and I was glad my battery was in good
    shape!

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