https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/16/tolkien-ethnic-chauvinism-claim/
A university is teaching students that JRR Tolkien demonises people of colour >in the LORD OF THE RINGS books. A history module called "Decolonising Tolkien >et al", taught at the University of Nottingham, uses a text that says orcs and >other dark-skinned characters in the trilogy are the victims of "ethnic >chauvinism".
Dr Onyeka Nubia, a historian and writer who leads the module, argues that >eastern races in the fictional realm of Middle Earth are depicted as evil >while fairer-skinned peoples of the west are shown as virtuous.
In academia, "decolonising" usually means re-examining or moving away from >white, western viewpoints. In the module's core text, Dr Onyeka writes that >maligned peoples include Easterlings, Southrons, and men from Harad. The >trilogy also features the dark-skinned orcs, evil creatures that do the >bidding of Sauron, known as the Dark Lord.
[To be fair, the orc's skin was mostly a sickly gray in color in the movies.]
It adds that Tolkien's treatment of the fictional races shares in a tradition >of "anti-African antipathy", in which people from Africa are painted as "the >natural enemy of the white man".
[Except these aren't people from Africa. They're not even people at all. So no >one's painting Africans as anything here.]
The module also examines racial issues in THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE >WARDROBE. The Calormen in CS Lewis's fantasy novel have long been seen by some >as exhibiting oriental stereotypes. They are described as cruel people with >long beards and orange-coloured turbans.
[Um... isn't "oriental" a no-no word now?]
Students of the course in Nottingham will also learn to "repopulate" the canon >of British myth and legend.
Dr Nubia, an occasional contributor to the BBC, provided articles saying >medieval England "had diverse populations and Africans lived there, but ethnic >chauvinism was evident in literature, including Milton's PARADISE LOST and >that the tradition persisted in the works of Tolkien and Lewis".
He claims in the core module text that Shakespeare's work helped to promote a >vision of a "fictional, mono-ethnic English past". His plays are said to be >problematic for "missing direct references to Africans living in England", >creating the illusion of racial homogeneity in England.
In 2021, academics taking part in an Anti-Racist Shakespeare programme at The >Globe Theatre in London argued that the Bard's work consistently links >whiteness to beauty, while dark is unattractive.
Contributor Prof Vanessa Corredera said at the time: "If you put the play in >context with other Shakespearean plays, and even the sonnets, this language is >all over the place, this language of dark and light... There are these >racialising elements." A number of the sonnets are addressed to the physically >contrasted Fair Youth and the Dark Lady.
The Telegraph previously revealed that Shakespeare's birthplace, >Stratford-upon-Avon, was set to be "decolonised" following concerns about the >playwright being used to promote white supremacy.
Shakespeare's Birthplace Trust set out plans to "create a more inclusive >museum experience" at the site. This process included exploring the continued >impact of Empire on the collection, the impact of colonialism on world >history, and how Shakespeare?s work has played a part in this.
The Telegraph has approached the University of Nottingham and Dr Onyeka for >comment.
On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 20:23:19 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/16/tolkien-ethnic-chauvinism-claim/ >>
A university is teaching students that JRR Tolkien demonises people of colour
in the LORD OF THE RINGS books. A history module called "Decolonising Tolkien
et al", taught at the University of Nottingham, uses a text that says orcs and
other dark-skinned characters in the trilogy are the victims of "ethnic
chauvinism".
So all dark skinned individuals are the same? Does he believe that
orcs share a culture with African Americans or even Africans? Would be
nice if we could bring a few here and have him have a meeting with
them. I'm sure they would get along well.
Dr Onyeka Nubia, a historian and writer who leads the module, argues that
eastern races in the fictional realm of Middle Earth are depicted as evil
while fairer-skinned peoples of the west are shown as virtuous.
Ah, everything in literature has to relate to the real world. And
thing written long ago still have to reflect the modern world or else
we must remove them from society.
In academia, "decolonising" usually means re-examining or moving away from >> white, western viewpoints. In the module's core text, Dr Onyeka writes that >> maligned peoples include Easterlings, Southrons, and men from Harad. The
trilogy also features the dark-skinned orcs, evil creatures that do the
bidding of Sauron, known as the Dark Lord.
[To be fair, the orc's skin was mostly a sickly gray in color in the movies.]
It adds that Tolkien's treatment of the fictional races shares in a tradition
of "anti-African antipathy", in which people from Africa are painted as "the >> natural enemy of the white man".
[Except these aren't people from Africa. They're not even people at all. So no
one's painting Africans as anything here.]
The module also examines racial issues in THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE
WARDROBE. The Calormen in CS Lewis's fantasy novel have long been seen by some
as exhibiting oriental stereotypes. They are described as cruel people with >> long beards and orange-coloured turbans.
[Um... isn't "oriental" a no-no word now?]
Um, don't most Southeast Asians have trouble growing beards. So that
would suggest there wasn't an intent to reflect them in the book.
Students of the course in Nottingham will also learn to "repopulate" the canon
of British myth and legend.
Dr Nubia, an occasional contributor to the BBC, provided articles saying
medieval England "had diverse populations and Africans lived there, but ethnic
chauvinism was evident in literature, including Milton's PARADISE LOST and >> that the tradition persisted in the works of Tolkien and Lewis".
He claims in the core module text that Shakespeare's work helped to promote a
vision of a "fictional, mono-ethnic English past". His plays are said to be >> problematic for "missing direct references to Africans living in England", >> creating the illusion of racial homogeneity in England.
In 2021, academics taking part in an Anti-Racist Shakespeare programme at The
Globe Theatre in London argued that the Bard's work consistently links
whiteness to beauty, while dark is unattractive.
Contributor Prof Vanessa Corredera said at the time: "If you put the play in >> context with other Shakespearean plays, and even the sonnets, this language is
all over the place, this language of dark and light... There are these
racialising elements." A number of the sonnets are addressed to the physically
contrasted Fair Youth and the Dark Lady.
The Telegraph previously revealed that Shakespeare's birthplace,
Stratford-upon-Avon, was set to be "decolonised" following concerns about the
playwright being used to promote white supremacy.
Shakespeare's Birthplace Trust set out plans to "create a more inclusive
museum experience" at the site. This process included exploring the continued
impact of Empire on the collection, the impact of colonialism on world
history, and how Shakespeare?s work has played a part in this.
The Telegraph has approached the University of Nottingham and Dr Onyeka for >> comment.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/16/tolkien-ethnic-chauvinism-claim/
A university is teaching students that JRR Tolkien demonises people of colour in the LORD OF THE RINGS books. A history module called "Decolonising Tolkien et al", taught at the University of Nottingham, uses a text that says orcs and
other dark-skinned characters in the trilogy are the victims of "ethnic chauvinism".
Dr Onyeka Nubia, a historian and writer who leads the module, argues that eastern races in the fictional realm of Middle Earth are depicted as evil while fairer-skinned peoples of the west are shown as virtuous.
In academia, "decolonising" usually means re-examining or moving away from white, western viewpoints. In the module's core text, Dr Onyeka writes that maligned peoples include Easterlings, Southrons, and men from Harad. The trilogy also features the dark-skinned orcs, evil creatures that do the bidding of Sauron, known as the Dark Lord.
[To be fair, the orc's skin was mostly a sickly gray in color in the movies.]
It adds that Tolkien's treatment of the fictional races shares in a tradition of "anti-African antipathy", in which people from Africa are painted as "the natural enemy of the white man".
[Except these aren't people from Africa. They're not even people at all. So no
one's painting Africans as anything here.]
The module also examines racial issues in THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE. The Calormen in CS Lewis's fantasy novel have long been seen by some
as exhibiting oriental stereotypes. They are described as cruel people with long beards and orange-coloured turbans.
[Um... isn't "oriental" a no-no word now?]
Students of the course in Nottingham will also learn to "repopulate" the canon
of British myth and legend.
Dr Nubia, an occasional contributor to the BBC, provided articles saying medieval England "had diverse populations and Africans lived there, but ethnic
chauvinism was evident in literature, including Milton's PARADISE LOST and that the tradition persisted in the works of Tolkien and Lewis".
He claims in the core module text that Shakespeare's work helped to promote a vision of a "fictional, mono-ethnic English past". His plays are said to be problematic for "missing direct references to Africans living in England", creating the illusion of racial homogeneity in England.
In 2021, academics taking part in an Anti-Racist Shakespeare programme at The Globe Theatre in London argued that the Bard's work consistently links whiteness to beauty, while dark is unattractive.
Contributor Prof Vanessa Corredera said at the time: "If you put the play in context with other Shakespearean plays, and even the sonnets, this language is
all over the place, this language of dark and light... There are these racialising elements." A number of the sonnets are addressed to the physically
contrasted Fair Youth and the Dark Lady.
The Telegraph previously revealed that Shakespeare's birthplace, Stratford-upon-Avon, was set to be "decolonised" following concerns about the playwright being used to promote white supremacy.
Shakespeare's Birthplace Trust set out plans to "create a more inclusive museum experience" at the site. This process included exploring the continued impact of Empire on the collection, the impact of colonialism on world history, and how Shakespeare?s work has played a part in this.
The Telegraph has approached the University of Nottingham and Dr Onyeka for comment.
On 2025-10-17 6:21 p.m., shawn wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 20:23:19 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>From that paragraph, it's not clear to me whether you are siding with
wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/16/tolkien-ethnic-chauvinism-claim/
A university is teaching students that JRR Tolkien demonises people of colour
in the LORD OF THE RINGS books. A history module called "Decolonising Tolkien
et al", taught at the University of Nottingham, uses a text that says orcs and
other dark-skinned characters in the trilogy are the victims of "ethnic
chauvinism".
So all dark skinned individuals are the same? Does he believe that
orcs share a culture with African Americans or even Africans? Would be
nice if we could bring a few here and have him have a meeting with
them. I'm sure they would get along well.
Dr Onyeka Nubia, a historian and writer who leads the module, argues that >>> eastern races in the fictional realm of Middle Earth are depicted as evil >>> while fairer-skinned peoples of the west are shown as virtuous.
Ah, everything in literature has to relate to the real world. And
thing written long ago still have to reflect the modern world or else
we must remove them from society.
Dr. Nubia or disagreeing with him.
In academia, "decolonising" usually means re-examining or moving away from >>> white, western viewpoints. In the module's core text, Dr Onyeka writes that >>> maligned peoples include Easterlings, Southrons, and men from Harad. The >>> trilogy also features the dark-skinned orcs, evil creatures that do the
bidding of Sauron, known as the Dark Lord.
[To be fair, the orc's skin was mostly a sickly gray in color in the movies.]
It adds that Tolkien's treatment of the fictional races shares in a tradition
of "anti-African antipathy", in which people from Africa are painted as "the
natural enemy of the white man".
[Except these aren't people from Africa. They're not even people at all. So no
one's painting Africans as anything here.]
The module also examines racial issues in THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE
WARDROBE. The Calormen in CS Lewis's fantasy novel have long been seen by some
as exhibiting oriental stereotypes. They are described as cruel people with >>> long beards and orange-coloured turbans.
[Um... isn't "oriental" a no-no word now?]
Um, don't most Southeast Asians have trouble growing beards. So that
would suggest there wasn't an intent to reflect them in the book.
Students of the course in Nottingham will also learn to "repopulate" the canon
of British myth and legend.
Dr Nubia, an occasional contributor to the BBC, provided articles saying >>> medieval England "had diverse populations and Africans lived there, but ethnic
chauvinism was evident in literature, including Milton's PARADISE LOST and >>> that the tradition persisted in the works of Tolkien and Lewis".
He claims in the core module text that Shakespeare's work helped to promote a
vision of a "fictional, mono-ethnic English past". His plays are said to be >>> problematic for "missing direct references to Africans living in England", >>> creating the illusion of racial homogeneity in England.
In 2021, academics taking part in an Anti-Racist Shakespeare programme at The
Globe Theatre in London argued that the Bard's work consistently links
whiteness to beauty, while dark is unattractive.
Contributor Prof Vanessa Corredera said at the time: "If you put the play in
context with other Shakespearean plays, and even the sonnets, this language is
all over the place, this language of dark and light... There are these
racialising elements." A number of the sonnets are addressed to the physically
contrasted Fair Youth and the Dark Lady.
The Telegraph previously revealed that Shakespeare's birthplace,
Stratford-upon-Avon, was set to be "decolonised" following concerns about the
playwright being used to promote white supremacy.
Shakespeare's Birthplace Trust set out plans to "create a more inclusive >>> museum experience" at the site. This process included exploring the continued
impact of Empire on the collection, the impact of colonialism on world
history, and how Shakespeare?s work has played a part in this.
The Telegraph has approached the University of Nottingham and Dr Onyeka for >>> comment.
On 2025-10-17 4:23 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/16/tolkien-ethnic-chauvinism-claim/Apparently, but I've never understood why. It comes from the Latin
A university is teaching students that JRR Tolkien demonises people of
colour
in the LORD OF THE RINGS books. A history module called "Decolonising
Tolkien
et al", taught at the University of Nottingham, uses a text that says orcs >> and
other dark-skinned characters in the trilogy are the victims of "ethnic
chauvinism".
Dr Onyeka Nubia, a historian and writer who leads the module, argues that >> eastern races in the fictional realm of Middle Earth are depicted as evil >> while fairer-skinned peoples of the west are shown as virtuous.
In academia, "decolonising" usually means re-examining or moving away from >> white, western viewpoints. In the module's core text, Dr Onyeka writes that >> maligned peoples include Easterlings, Southrons, and men from Harad. The
trilogy also features the dark-skinned orcs, evil creatures that do the
bidding of Sauron, known as the Dark Lord.
[To be fair, the orc's skin was mostly a sickly gray in color in the
movies.]
It adds that Tolkien's treatment of the fictional races shares in a
tradition
of "anti-African antipathy", in which people from Africa are painted as "the
natural enemy of the white man".
[Except these aren't people from Africa. They're not even people at all. So >> no
one's painting Africans as anything here.]
The module also examines racial issues in THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE
WARDROBE. The Calormen in CS Lewis's fantasy novel have long been seen by >> some
as exhibiting oriental stereotypes. They are described as cruel people with >> long beards and orange-coloured turbans.
[Um... isn't "oriental" a no-no word now?]
meaning "from the east". I don't see why that should be a problem.
[Um... isn't "oriental" a no-no word now?]
Apparently, but I've never understood why. It comes from the Latin
meaning "from the east". I don't see why that should be a problem.
It purposely vagues-up who you're talking about. An Asian could be anyone from
Japan to Russia to India to Saudi Arabia.
On Oct 17, 2025 at 4:32:01 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2025-10-17 4:23 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:Especially considering it's a helluva lot more of an accurate descriptor than "Asian". The insistence that we call folks from there 'Asian' instead of oriental is ridiculous.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/16/tolkien-ethnic-chauvinism-claim/Apparently, but I've never understood why. It comes from the Latin
A university is teaching students that JRR Tolkien demonises people of >>> colour
in the LORD OF THE RINGS books. A history module called "Decolonising
Tolkien
et al", taught at the University of Nottingham, uses a text that says orcs
and
other dark-skinned characters in the trilogy are the victims of "ethnic >>> chauvinism".
Dr Onyeka Nubia, a historian and writer who leads the module, argues that >>> eastern races in the fictional realm of Middle Earth are depicted as evil >>> while fairer-skinned peoples of the west are shown as virtuous.
In academia, "decolonising" usually means re-examining or moving away from
white, western viewpoints. In the module's core text, Dr Onyeka writes that
maligned peoples include Easterlings, Southrons, and men from Harad. The >>> trilogy also features the dark-skinned orcs, evil creatures that do the >>> bidding of Sauron, known as the Dark Lord.
[To be fair, the orc's skin was mostly a sickly gray in color in the
movies.]
It adds that Tolkien's treatment of the fictional races shares in a
tradition
of "anti-African antipathy", in which people from Africa are painted as "the
natural enemy of the white man".
[Except these aren't people from Africa. They're not even people at all. So
no
one's painting Africans as anything here.]
The module also examines racial issues in THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE
WARDROBE. The Calormen in CS Lewis's fantasy novel have long been seen by >>> some
as exhibiting oriental stereotypes. They are described as cruel people with
long beards and orange-coloured turbans.
[Um... isn't "oriental" a no-no word now?]
meaning "from the east". I don't see why that should be a problem.
It purposely vagues-up who you're talking about. An Asian could be anyone from
Japan to Russia to India to Saudi Arabia.
It's like referring to people from Canada as North American. Sure, it's technically true, but it purposely leaves your audience in the dark as to whom
you're referring
On Oct 17, 2025 at 4:32:01 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2025-10-17 4:23 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:Especially considering it's a helluva lot more of an accurate descriptor than "Asian". The insistence that we call folks from there 'Asian' instead of oriental is ridiculous.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/16/tolkien-ethnic-chauvinism-claim/Apparently, but I've never understood why. It comes from the Latin
A university is teaching students that JRR Tolkien demonises people of >>> colour
in the LORD OF THE RINGS books. A history module called "Decolonising
Tolkien
et al", taught at the University of Nottingham, uses a text that says orcs
and
other dark-skinned characters in the trilogy are the victims of "ethnic >>> chauvinism".
Dr Onyeka Nubia, a historian and writer who leads the module, argues that >>> eastern races in the fictional realm of Middle Earth are depicted as evil >>> while fairer-skinned peoples of the west are shown as virtuous.
In academia, "decolonising" usually means re-examining or moving away from
white, western viewpoints. In the module's core text, Dr Onyeka writes that
maligned peoples include Easterlings, Southrons, and men from Harad. The >>> trilogy also features the dark-skinned orcs, evil creatures that do the >>> bidding of Sauron, known as the Dark Lord.
[To be fair, the orc's skin was mostly a sickly gray in color in the
movies.]
It adds that Tolkien's treatment of the fictional races shares in a
tradition
of "anti-African antipathy", in which people from Africa are painted as "the
natural enemy of the white man".
[Except these aren't people from Africa. They're not even people at all. So
no
one's painting Africans as anything here.]
The module also examines racial issues in THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE
WARDROBE. The Calormen in CS Lewis's fantasy novel have long been seen by >>> some
as exhibiting oriental stereotypes. They are described as cruel people with
long beards and orange-coloured turbans.
[Um... isn't "oriental" a no-no word now?]
meaning "from the east". I don't see why that should be a problem.
It purposely vagues-up who you're talking about. An Asian could be anyone from
Japan to Russia to India to Saudi Arabia.
It's like referring to people from Canada as North American. Sure, it's technically true, but it purposely leaves your audience in the dark as to whom
you're referring
Shakespeare's Birthplace Trust set out plans to "create a more inclusive >museum experience" at the site. This process included exploring the continued >impact of Empire on the collection, the impact of colonialism on world >history, and how Shakespeare?s work has played a part in this.
It purposely vagues-up who you're talking about. An Asian could be anyone from >Japan to Russia to India to Saudi Arabia.
It's like referring to people from Canada as North American. Sure, it's >technically true, but it purposely leaves your audience in the dark as to whom >you're referring
On Oct 17, 2025 at 4:32:01 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >wrote:
On 2025-10-17 4:23 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:Especially considering it's a helluva lot more of an accurate descriptor than >"Asian". The insistence that we call folks from there 'Asian' instead of >oriental is ridiculous.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/16/tolkien-ethnic-chauvinism-claim/Apparently, but I've never understood why. It comes from the Latin
A university is teaching students that JRR Tolkien demonises people of
colour
in the LORD OF THE RINGS books. A history module called "Decolonising
Tolkien
et al", taught at the University of Nottingham, uses a text that says orcs >>> and
other dark-skinned characters in the trilogy are the victims of "ethnic >>> chauvinism".
Dr Onyeka Nubia, a historian and writer who leads the module, argues that >>> eastern races in the fictional realm of Middle Earth are depicted as evil >>> while fairer-skinned peoples of the west are shown as virtuous.
In academia, "decolonising" usually means re-examining or moving away from >>> white, western viewpoints. In the module's core text, Dr Onyeka writes that
maligned peoples include Easterlings, Southrons, and men from Harad. The >>> trilogy also features the dark-skinned orcs, evil creatures that do the >>> bidding of Sauron, known as the Dark Lord.
[To be fair, the orc's skin was mostly a sickly gray in color in the
movies.]
It adds that Tolkien's treatment of the fictional races shares in a
tradition
of "anti-African antipathy", in which people from Africa are painted as "the
natural enemy of the white man".
[Except these aren't people from Africa. They're not even people at all. So
no
one's painting Africans as anything here.]
The module also examines racial issues in THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE
WARDROBE. The Calormen in CS Lewis's fantasy novel have long been seen by >>> some
as exhibiting oriental stereotypes. They are described as cruel people with
long beards and orange-coloured turbans.
[Um... isn't "oriental" a no-no word now?]
meaning "from the east". I don't see why that should be a problem.
It purposely vagues-up who you're talking about. An Asian could be anyone from >Japan to Russia to India to Saudi Arabia.
It's like referring to people from Canada as North American. Sure, it's >technically true, but it purposely leaves your audience in the dark as to whom >you're referring
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Oct 17, 2025 at 4:32:01 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >>wrote:
On 2025-10-17 4:23 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/16/tolkien-ethnic-chauvinism-claim/
A university is teaching students that JRR Tolkien demonises people of >>>> colour
in the LORD OF THE RINGS books. A history module called "Decolonising >>>> Tolkien
et al", taught at the University of Nottingham, uses a text that says orcs
and
other dark-skinned characters in the trilogy are the victims of "ethnic >>>> chauvinism".
Dr Onyeka Nubia, a historian and writer who leads the module, argues that >>>> eastern races in the fictional realm of Middle Earth are depicted as evil >>>> while fairer-skinned peoples of the west are shown as virtuous.
On 2025-10-17 11:47 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 17, 2025 at 4:32:01 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:
On 2025-10-17 4:23 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/16/tolkien-ethnic-chauvinism-claim/Apparently, but I've never understood why.
A university is teaching students that JRR Tolkien demonises people of >>>> colour
in the LORD OF THE RINGS books. A history module called "Decolonising
Tolkien
et al", taught at the University of Nottingham, uses a text that says orcs >>>> and
other dark-skinned characters in the trilogy are the victims of "ethnic >>>> chauvinism".
Dr Onyeka Nubia, a historian and writer who leads the module, argues that >>>> eastern races in the fictional realm of Middle Earth are depicted as evil >>>> while fairer-skinned peoples of the west are shown as virtuous.
In academia, "decolonising" usually means re-examining or moving away from >>>> white, western viewpoints. In the module's core text, Dr Onyeka writes that
maligned peoples include Easterlings, Southrons, and men from Harad. The >>>> trilogy also features the dark-skinned orcs, evil creatures that do the >>>> bidding of Sauron, known as the Dark Lord.
[To be fair, the orc's skin was mostly a sickly gray in color in the
movies.]
It adds that Tolkien's treatment of the fictional races shares in a
tradition
of "anti-African antipathy", in which people from Africa are painted as "the
natural enemy of the white man".
[Except these aren't people from Africa. They're not even people at all. So
no
one's painting Africans as anything here.]
The module also examines racial issues in THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE
WARDROBE. The Calormen in CS Lewis's fantasy novel have long been seen by >>>> some
as exhibiting oriental stereotypes. They are described as cruel people with
long beards and orange-coloured turbans.
[Um... isn't "oriental" a no-no word now?]
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