• Boston Blue

    From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 18 11:42:05 2025
    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?




    [spoiler space]










































    I gather the writers initially had a rather different story in mind but
    CBS pressured them into modifying it substantially to incorporate lots
    of Blue Blood elements into it and moving it to Boston.

    It was better than I expected. They came up with a plausible reason for
    Danny to go to Boston - and for Sean to be *in* Boston as a cop - and we
    got to see Erin and (briefly Baez) with Frank making a phone call to
    check in, although we only heard Danny's side of the call. The fact that
    half of the Boston PD and the district attorney are related is very reminiscent of NYPD Blue - and about equally implausible. I didn't
    completely follow how this blended family came about except that there
    were some divorces. I was a little surprised about the family being
    partially Jewish; I thought Jews were pariahs these days and not to be mentioned except as genocidal monsters. Treating them as decent people
    was a nice touch.

    I liked that they didn't just hire Danny on to the BPD in the first
    episode, although it was pretty clear he could have been hired right
    then and there if he'd wanted to be. I have to wonder how plausible it
    would be for a veteran NYPD detective to just transfer to BPD or, more
    likely, quit the NYPD and join the BPD. I know a guy who was in the St.
    Thomas (Ontario) PD who left after 18 years to join the OPP and he had
    to start over from scratch, rather than retaining the sergeant's rank he
    had in St. Thomas. Of course he still had lots of experience so worked
    his way back up to sergeant fairly quickly. I'm having trouble believing
    Danny would just keep his rank, Gold Shield and pension in a move like
    that. But this is TV so reality doesn't typically intrude that much.

    I'm curious to see how much of the NYPD Blue cast will drop in. I expect
    we'll have more visits if the ratings are weak than if they are good.
    I'm also curious if the original Sean got offered the part of Sean in
    this show or whether they never even gave him a thought.


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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 18 13:37:11 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?




    [spoiler space]










































    I gather the writers initially had a rather different story in mind but
    CBS pressured them into modifying it substantially to incorporate lots
    of Blue Blood elements into it and moving it to Boston.


    Yeah, they clearly had a whole show here and just sandwiched

    Danny into it as an afterthought. Of course they had a whole show that I wouldn?t have watched, except that they added Danny.


    It was better than I expected. They came up with a plausible reason for Danny to go to Boston - and for Sean to be *in* Boston as a cop - and we
    got to see Erin and (briefly Baez) with Frank making a phone call to
    check in, although we only heard Danny's side of the call.

    I think we can assume Magnum is still the commissioner otherwise he?d have visited in person.

    I am disappointed in the recasting of Sean because I really didn?t care if
    the new guy lived or died. It?s like the recasting in NCIS origins.

    I?m also disappointed that Danny paired off with Maria and not Jennifer Esposito.



    The fact that
    half of the Boston PD and the district attorney are related is very reminiscent of NYPD Blue - and about equally implausible.

    And both the Boston district attorney, and the New York district attorney
    are pro criminal and anti-cop. That?s just annoying as hell.

    I didn't
    completely follow how this blended family came about except that there
    were some divorces. I was a little surprised about the family being partially Jewish; I thought Jews were pariahs these days and not to be mentioned except as genocidal monsters. Treating them as decent people
    was a nice touch.

    Yeah, you needed a flow chart to figure out the relations. I can?t figure
    out why the black family converted to Jewish when the grandfather is a preacher.

    OK from the close captioning
    Lena (to the Reagans): my mom and dad split up when I was born. I was 13
    when Mom married Ben and converted to Judaism. And Sarah is his daughter
    from his first marriage. She?s been my ride or die since middle school.
    Then Jonah was born right after mom and dad got married. Her golden boy. He joined the police Academy last year right after Ben got killed. he was a circuit judge. Got shot right outside the courthouse.


    The cast skews really really old. Ernie Hudson is 80. Gloria Reuben is 60. Maggie Lawson is 45. The woman from Star Trek is over 40. Danny is pushing
    60.


    I liked that they didn't just hire Danny on to the BPD in the first
    episode, although it was pretty clear he could have been hired right
    then and there if he'd wanted to be. I have to wonder how plausible it
    would be for a veteran NYPD detective to just transfer to BPD or, more likely, quit the NYPD and join the BPD. I know a guy who was in the St. Thomas (Ontario) PD who left after 18 years to join the OPP and he had
    to start over from scratch, rather than retaining the sergeant's rank he
    had in St. Thomas. Of course he still had lots of experience so worked
    his way back up to sergeant fairly quickly. I'm having trouble believing Danny would just keep his rank, Gold Shield and pension in a move like
    that. But this is TV so reality doesn't typically intrude that much.

    I'm curious to see how much of the NYPD Blue cast will drop in.

    They didn?t even bother to mention the other brother.

    I expect
    we'll have more visits if the ratings are weak than if they are good.
    I'm also curious if the original Sean got offered the part of Sean in
    this show or whether they never even gave him a thought.


    Ian?s IMDb listing for the original actor doesn?t show him having anything
    else coming up and having done nothing but Blue Bloods in the last 10
    years.

    My verdict? Well it?s almost impossible for me to watch. It doesn?t show up
    on CBS on demand or anything. I can either pay to get it from Paramont or
    dig it out on the gray. And the link I clicked on the gray turned out to be
    a scam. I didn?t like that at all. So if I hear Magnum is going to be on it
    or something I might watch (I?ll rely on Robin to tell me). But I doubt
    I?ll watch it regularly.

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  • From danny burstein@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 18 21:24:15 2025
    In <1698360352.782508158.977501.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    [snip]

    The cast skews really really old. Ernie Hudson is 80. Gloria Reuben is 60.

    Umm, first, I hate to remind people but anyone here who, for ex,
    wathced "Blue Bloods" from the beginning ain't that young either.

    And, hmmm, Gloria Reuben? Even at 60 I'll be sure to check
    the show out.

    ahhhh.. thought so.. She was in a bunch of the Jesse Stone
    tv-movies.


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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 18 17:24:20 2025
    On 2025-10-18 4:37 p.m., anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?




    [spoiler space]










































    I gather the writers initially had a rather different story in mind but
    CBS pressured them into modifying it substantially to incorporate lots
    of Blue Blood elements into it and moving it to Boston.


    Yeah, they clearly had a whole show here and just sandwiched

    Danny into it as an afterthought. Of course they had a whole show that I wouldn?t have watched, except that they added Danny.


    It was better than I expected. They came up with a plausible reason for
    Danny to go to Boston - and for Sean to be *in* Boston as a cop - and we
    got to see Erin and (briefly Baez) with Frank making a phone call to
    check in, although we only heard Danny's side of the call.

    I think we can assume Magnum is still the commissioner otherwise he?d have visited in person.

    I am disappointed in the recasting of Sean because I really didn?t care if the new guy lived or died. It?s like the recasting in NCIS origins.

    I?m also disappointed that Danny paired off with Maria and not Jennifer Esposito.



    The fact that
    half of the Boston PD and the district attorney are related is very
    reminiscent of NYPD Blue - and about equally implausible.

    And both the Boston district attorney, and the New York district attorney
    are pro criminal and anti-cop. That?s just annoying as hell.

    I didn't
    completely follow how this blended family came about except that there
    were some divorces. I was a little surprised about the family being
    partially Jewish; I thought Jews were pariahs these days and not to be
    mentioned except as genocidal monsters. Treating them as decent people
    was a nice touch.

    Yeah, you needed a flow chart to figure out the relations. I can?t figure out why the black family converted to Jewish when the grandfather is a preacher.

    I read an article over on Yahoo after I started this thread and it says
    one of the two creators is black *and* Jewish. (And here I was thinking
    Sammy Davis Jr. was the only one ;-) Apparently, he wanted to somewhat recreate the dynamic of a family that had a mix of ethnicities and
    religions. (I have no idea if *his* father is a Baptist preacher or if
    he has white people in his family.)
    OK from the close captioning
    Lena (to the Reagans): my mom and dad split up when I was born. I was 13
    when Mom married Ben and converted to Judaism. And Sarah is his daughter
    from his first marriage. She?s been my ride or die since middle school.
    Then Jonah was born right after mom and dad got married. Her golden boy. He joined the police Academy last year right after Ben got killed. he was a circuit judge. Got shot right outside the courthouse.


    The cast skews really really old. Ernie Hudson is 80. Gloria Reuben is 60. Maggie Lawson is 45. The woman from Star Trek is over 40. Danny is pushing 60.


    I liked that they didn't just hire Danny on to the BPD in the first
    episode, although it was pretty clear he could have been hired right
    then and there if he'd wanted to be. I have to wonder how plausible it
    would be for a veteran NYPD detective to just transfer to BPD or, more
    likely, quit the NYPD and join the BPD. I know a guy who was in the St.
    Thomas (Ontario) PD who left after 18 years to join the OPP and he had
    to start over from scratch, rather than retaining the sergeant's rank he
    had in St. Thomas. Of course he still had lots of experience so worked
    his way back up to sergeant fairly quickly. I'm having trouble believing
    Danny would just keep his rank, Gold Shield and pension in a move like
    that. But this is TV so reality doesn't typically intrude that much.

    I'm curious to see how much of the NYPD Blue cast will drop in.

    They didn?t even bother to mention the other brother.

    I expect
    we'll have more visits if the ratings are weak than if they are good.
    I'm also curious if the original Sean got offered the part of Sean in
    this show or whether they never even gave him a thought.


    Ian?s IMDb listing for the original actor doesn?t show him having anything else coming up and having done nothing but Blue Bloods in the last 10
    years.

    My verdict? Well it?s almost impossible for me to watch. It doesn?t show up on CBS on demand or anything. I can either pay to get it from Paramont or
    dig it out on the gray. And the link I clicked on the gray turned out to be
    a scam. I didn?t like that at all. So if I hear Magnum is going to be on it or something I might watch (I?ll rely on Robin to tell me). But I doubt
    I?ll watch it regularly.


    Fair enough. I don't promise to stay with it forever, no matter what:
    I'll bail out if it gets really stupid.

    Just the fact that it has different writers gives it a renewed energy
    that has me interested for now.

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    Rhino

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  • From shawn@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 18 17:52:05 2025
    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 21:24:15 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein
    <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

    In <1698360352.782508158.977501.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    [snip]

    The cast skews really really old. Ernie Hudson is 80. Gloria Reuben is 60.

    Umm, first, I hate to remind people but anyone here who, for ex,
    wathced "Blue Bloods" from the beginning ain't that young either.

    And, hmmm, Gloria Reuben? Even at 60 I'll be sure to check
    the show out.

    ahhhh.. thought so.. She was in a bunch of the Jesse Stone
    tv-movies.

    It's funny how a change in hair style can influence someone's looks.

    Over on Instagram they have recent pic from her on the show and in
    real life. On the show they gave her a mom/professional style that
    makes her look older. While the real life has the same hair style I
    remember from her ER days which makes her look a bit younger.

    The real life pic.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DOlXsBGkfbQ/

    The BOSTON BLUE pic
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DP659opEh1s/


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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 18 19:37:34 2025
    On 2025-10-18 5:24 p.m., danny burstein wrote:
    In <1698360352.782508158.977501.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    [snip]

    The cast skews really really old. Ernie Hudson is 80. Gloria Reuben is 60.

    Umm, first, I hate to remind people but anyone here who, for ex,
    wathced "Blue Bloods" from the beginning ain't that young either.

    And, hmmm, Gloria Reuben? Even at 60 I'll be sure to check
    the show out.

    ahhhh.. thought so.. She was in a bunch of the Jesse Stone
    tv-movies.


    She's Canadian so it's possible they cast her because they shoot all of
    the interiors in Toronto.

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  • From danny burstein@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 00:08:55 2025
    In <10d18bu$25ga0$1@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:

    [snip]
    And, hmmm, Gloria Reuben? Even at 60 I'll be sure to check
    the show out.

    ahhhh.. thought so.. She was in a bunch of the Jesse Stone
    tv-movies.

    She's Canadian so it's possible they cast her because they shoot all of
    the interiors in Toronto.

    dammit, so I've got me Yet Another Unobtainable Canadian Heart Throb..


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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 01:29:05 2025
    On Oct 18, 2025 at 1:37:11 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I liked that they didn't just hire Danny on to the BPD in the first
    episode, although it was pretty clear he could have been hired right
    then and there if he'd wanted to be. I have to wonder how plausible it
    would be for a veteran NYPD detective to just transfer to BPD or, more
    likely, quit the NYPD and join the BPD. I know a guy who was in the St.
    Thomas (Ontario) PD who left after 18 years to join the OPP and he had
    to start over from scratch, rather than retaining the sergeant's rank he >> had in St. Thomas. Of course he still had lots of experience so worked
    his way back up to sergeant fairly quickly. I'm having trouble believing >> Danny would just keep his rank, Gold Shield and pension in a move like
    that.

    He wouldn't. Not to mention it would highly piss off all the Boston cops who are waiting to promote to have some stranger from another state just parachute in and take one of the open spots. The union would have fit.

    But this is TV so reality doesn't typically intrude that much.

    I'm curious to see how much of the NYPD Blue cast will drop in.

    They didn?t even bother to mention the other brother.

    I expect
    we'll have more visits if the ratings are weak than if they are good.
    I'm also curious if the original Sean got offered the part of Sean in
    this show or whether they never even gave him a thought.

    If they offered it to him, it was probably on the condition that he lose a 150 pounds.



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  • From danny burstein@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 01:43:45 2025
    In <10d1et1$26f6r$3@dont-email.me> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> writes:

    his way back up to sergeant fairly quickly. I'm having trouble believing >>> Danny would just keep his rank, Gold Shield and pension in a move like >>> that.

    He wouldn't. Not to mention it would highly piss off all the Boston cops who >are waiting to promote to have some stranger from another state just parachute >in and take one of the open spots. The union would have fit.

    This lateral transfer garbage is all too common in the tv-verse.

    At least in "The Screamer", they brought Brenda Johnson (portrayed
    by Kyra Sedgwick) into LAPD as a Deputy Chief, explaining that the
    choices were either start her off as a rookie [a] or use one of
    the high level, political appointee slots.

    [a] I don't recall how they tiptoed around civil service exams..


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  • From EGK@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 18 23:56:44 2025
    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 11:42:05 -0400, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?

    Going to leave your spoiler intact and comment without spoilers. I thought Boston Blue came off really cheesy and I can't exactly put my finger on why. Part was the acting by everyone seemed stilted to me. Part was also
    because the case wrapped so easily and another part was how hard they tried
    to recreate the family atmosphere of Blue Bloods.

    It didn't help that I got really sick of Green. It's nothing against her personally or even her acting. I just got so I absolutely hated the Mary
    Sue they turned her character into on Star Trek Enterprise and there was touches of that here too.

    I watched all of Blue Bloods (mostly for Magnum) and liked it but it's sacrilege that you keep calling it NYPD Blue. That was a MUCH better show
    than Blue Bloods ever was. :)

    [spoiler space]










































    I gather the writers initially had a rather different story in mind but
    CBS pressured them into modifying it substantially to incorporate lots
    of Blue Blood elements into it and moving it to Boston.

    It was better than I expected. They came up with a plausible reason for >Danny to go to Boston - and for Sean to be *in* Boston as a cop - and we
    got to see Erin and (briefly Baez) with Frank making a phone call to
    check in, although we only heard Danny's side of the call. The fact that >half of the Boston PD and the district attorney are related is very >reminiscent of NYPD Blue - and about equally implausible. I didn't >completely follow how this blended family came about except that there
    were some divorces. I was a little surprised about the family being >partially Jewish; I thought Jews were pariahs these days and not to be >mentioned except as genocidal monsters. Treating them as decent people
    was a nice touch.

    I liked that they didn't just hire Danny on to the BPD in the first
    episode, although it was pretty clear he could have been hired right
    then and there if he'd wanted to be. I have to wonder how plausible it
    would be for a veteran NYPD detective to just transfer to BPD or, more >likely, quit the NYPD and join the BPD. I know a guy who was in the St. >Thomas (Ontario) PD who left after 18 years to join the OPP and he had
    to start over from scratch, rather than retaining the sergeant's rank he
    had in St. Thomas. Of course he still had lots of experience so worked
    his way back up to sergeant fairly quickly. I'm having trouble believing >Danny would just keep his rank, Gold Shield and pension in a move like
    that. But this is TV so reality doesn't typically intrude that much.

    I'm curious to see how much of the NYPD Blue cast will drop in. I expect >we'll have more visits if the ratings are weak than if they are good.
    I'm also curious if the original Sean got offered the part of Sean in
    this show or whether they never even gave him a thought.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 18 22:01:11 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-18 4:37 p.m., anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?




    [spoiler space]










































    I gather the writers initially had a rather different story in mind but
    CBS pressured them into modifying it substantially to incorporate lots
    of Blue Blood elements into it and moving it to Boston.


    Yeah, they clearly had a whole show here and just sandwiched

    Danny into it as an afterthought. Of course they had a whole show that I
    wouldn?t have watched, except that they added Danny.


    It was better than I expected. They came up with a plausible reason for
    Danny to go to Boston - and for Sean to be *in* Boston as a cop - and we >>> got to see Erin and (briefly Baez) with Frank making a phone call to
    check in, although we only heard Danny's side of the call.

    I think we can assume Magnum is still the commissioner otherwise he?d have >> visited in person.

    I am disappointed in the recasting of Sean because I really didn?t care if >> the new guy lived or died. It?s like the recasting in NCIS origins.

    I?m also disappointed that Danny paired off with Maria and not Jennifer
    Esposito.



    The fact that
    half of the Boston PD and the district attorney are related is very
    reminiscent of NYPD Blue - and about equally implausible.

    And both the Boston district attorney, and the New York district attorney
    are pro criminal and anti-cop. That?s just annoying as hell.

    I didn't
    completely follow how this blended family came about except that there
    were some divorces. I was a little surprised about the family being
    partially Jewish; I thought Jews were pariahs these days and not to be
    mentioned except as genocidal monsters. Treating them as decent people
    was a nice touch.

    Yeah, you needed a flow chart to figure out the relations. I can?t figure >> out why the black family converted to Jewish when the grandfather is a
    preacher.

    I read an article over on Yahoo after I started this thread and it says
    one of the two creators is black *and* Jewish. (And here I was thinking Sammy Davis Jr. was the only one ;-) Apparently, he wanted to somewhat recreate the dynamic of a family that had a mix of ethnicities and religions. (I have no idea if *his* father is a Baptist preacher or if
    he has white people in his family.)

    They showed a quick picture of what seemed to be Maggie Lawson?s family.
    Two black women, one black men, one white woman. I assume the black man was
    the now dead Ben so the (possibly) Jewish and White component must be his
    wife, Maggie Lawson?s mother. We have no idea what became of her.


    OK from the close captioning
    Lena (to the Reagans): my mom and dad split up when I was born. I was 13
    when Mom married Ben and converted to Judaism. And Sarah is his daughter
    from his first marriage. She?s been my ride or die since middle school.
    Then Jonah was born right after mom and dad got married. Her golden boy. He >> joined the police Academy last year right after Ben got killed. he was a
    circuit judge. Got shot right outside the courthouse.


    The cast skews really really old. Ernie Hudson is 80. Gloria Reuben is 60. >> Maggie Lawson is 45. The woman from Star Trek is over 40. Danny is pushing >> 60.


    I liked that they didn't just hire Danny on to the BPD in the first
    episode, although it was pretty clear he could have been hired right
    then and there if he'd wanted to be. I have to wonder how plausible it
    would be for a veteran NYPD detective to just transfer to BPD or, more
    likely, quit the NYPD and join the BPD. I know a guy who was in the St.
    Thomas (Ontario) PD who left after 18 years to join the OPP and he had
    to start over from scratch, rather than retaining the sergeant's rank he >>> had in St. Thomas. Of course he still had lots of experience so worked
    his way back up to sergeant fairly quickly. I'm having trouble believing >>> Danny would just keep his rank, Gold Shield and pension in a move like
    that. But this is TV so reality doesn't typically intrude that much.

    I'm curious to see how much of the NYPD Blue cast will drop in.

    They didn?t even bother to mention the other brother.

    I expect
    we'll have more visits if the ratings are weak than if they are good.
    I'm also curious if the original Sean got offered the part of Sean in
    this show or whether they never even gave him a thought.


    Ian?s IMDb listing for the original actor doesn?t show him having anything >> else coming up and having done nothing but Blue Bloods in the last 10
    years.

    My verdict? Well it?s almost impossible for me to watch. It doesn?t show up >> on CBS on demand or anything. I can either pay to get it from Paramont or
    dig it out on the gray. And the link I clicked on the gray turned out to be >> a scam. I didn?t like that at all. So if I hear Magnum is going to be on it >> or something I might watch (I?ll rely on Robin to tell me). But I doubt
    I?ll watch it regularly.


    Fair enough. I don't promise to stay with it forever, no matter what:
    I'll bail out if it gets really stupid.

    Just the fact that it has different writers gives it a renewed energy
    that has me interested for now.


    If I still had regular TV or a way to record it, I?d probably give it more
    of a try. But they?ve made it too difficult.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 18 22:01:12 2025
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 21:24:15 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein
    <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

    In <1698360352.782508158.977501.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    [snip]

    The cast skews really really old. Ernie Hudson is 80. Gloria Reuben is 60. >>
    Umm, first, I hate to remind people but anyone here who, for ex,
    wathced "Blue Bloods" from the beginning ain't that young either.

    And, hmmm, Gloria Reuben? Even at 60 I'll be sure to check
    the show out.

    ahhhh.. thought so.. She was in a bunch of the Jesse Stone
    tv-movies.

    It's funny how a change in hair style can influence someone's looks.

    Over on Instagram they have recent pic from her on the show and in
    real life. On the show they gave her a mom/professional style that
    makes her look older. While the real life has the same hair style I
    remember from her ER days which makes her look a bit younger.

    The real life pic.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DOlXsBGkfbQ/

    The BOSTON BLUE pic
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DP659opEh1s/



    Google continues to have me blocked from Instagram.

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    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 18 22:01:13 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Oct 18, 2025 at 1:37:11 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I liked that they didn't just hire Danny on to the BPD in the first
    episode, although it was pretty clear he could have been hired right
    then and there if he'd wanted to be. I have to wonder how plausible it
    would be for a veteran NYPD detective to just transfer to BPD or, more
    likely, quit the NYPD and join the BPD. I know a guy who was in the St. >>> Thomas (Ontario) PD who left after 18 years to join the OPP and he had
    to start over from scratch, rather than retaining the sergeant's rank he >>> had in St. Thomas. Of course he still had lots of experience so worked
    his way back up to sergeant fairly quickly. I'm having trouble believing >>> Danny would just keep his rank, Gold Shield and pension in a move like
    that.

    He wouldn't. Not to mention it would highly piss off all the Boston cops who are waiting to promote to have some stranger from another state just parachute
    in and take one of the open spots. The union would have fit.

    But this is TV so reality doesn't typically intrude that much.

    I'm curious to see how much of the NYPD Blue cast will drop in.

    They didn?t even bother to mention the other brother.

    I expect
    we'll have more visits if the ratings are weak than if they are good.
    I'm also curious if the original Sean got offered the part of Sean in
    this show or whether they never even gave him a thought.

    If they offered it to him, it was probably on the condition that he lose a 150
    pounds.

    Yeah, Sean was the porky one wasn?t he?

    I wonder how much time passed between the end of Blue Bloods and this? Sean needed to finish college and failed to become a cop having gone through the police Academy in New York and move to Boston. probably go through the
    police academy there and then become a cop.



    --
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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 18 22:01:13 2025
    danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
    In <1698360352.782508158.977501.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    [snip]

    The cast skews really really old. Ernie Hudson is 80. Gloria Reuben is 60.

    Umm, first, I hate to remind people but anyone here who, for ex,
    wathced "Blue Bloods" from the beginning ain't that young either.


    Yes, but you think CBS would be trying to appeal to younger people.

    And, hmmm, Gloria Reuben? Even at 60 I'll be sure to check
    the show out.

    ahhhh.. thought so.. She was in a bunch of the Jesse Stone
    tv-movies.

    And even there she was sort of young to be magnums squeeze.



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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 05:44:41 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?




    [spoiler space]










































    I gather the writers initially had a rather different story in mind but
    CBS pressured them into modifying it substantially to incorporate lots
    of Blue Blood elements into it and moving it to Boston.

    It was better than I expected. They came up with a plausible reason for >Danny to go to Boston - and for Sean to be *in* Boston as a cop - and we
    got to see Erin and (briefly Baez) with Frank making a phone call to
    check in, although we only heard Danny's side of the call. The fact that >half of the Boston PD and the district attorney are related is very >reminiscent of NYPD Blue - and about equally implausible. I didn't >completely follow how this blended family came about except that there
    were some divorces. I was a little surprised about the family being >partially Jewish; I thought Jews were pariahs these days and not to be >mentioned except as genocidal monsters. Treating them as decent people
    was a nice touch.

    Gloria Reuben converted to Judaism to marry; I didn't hear the name of
    the husband. He was the assasinated judge?

    You only have the wife convert because of the children's religion. I
    have no clue which of the children were supposed to be Jewish. She
    attends black Big Church... because that's a thing that Jews do.

    It made zero sense. That and Jews might live on Historic Snob Hill.

    The actress was on that Henry Louis Gates crap, who dug up both
    Ashkenazi and Sephardic ancestry of her father.

    She's Canadian, btw.

    Baez woke up perfectly coiffed and with her hair and makeup done. I
    thught she looked great.

    . . .

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  • From shawn@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 05:00:18 2025
    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 22:01:12 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 21:24:15 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein
    <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

    In <1698360352.782508158.977501.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    [snip]

    The cast skews really really old. Ernie Hudson is 80. Gloria Reuben is 60. >>>
    Umm, first, I hate to remind people but anyone here who, for ex,
    wathced "Blue Bloods" from the beginning ain't that young either.

    And, hmmm, Gloria Reuben? Even at 60 I'll be sure to check
    the show out.

    ahhhh.. thought so.. She was in a bunch of the Jesse Stone
    tv-movies.

    It's funny how a change in hair style can influence someone's looks.

    Over on Instagram they have recent pic from her on the show and in
    real life. On the show they gave her a mom/professional style that
    makes her look older. While the real life has the same hair style I
    remember from her ER days which makes her look a bit younger.

    The real life pic.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DOlXsBGkfbQ/

    The BOSTON BLUE pic
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DP659opEh1s/



    Google continues to have me blocked from Instagram.


    Here is an alternate source for a real life picture. https://www.treatmentactiongroup.org/support-us/research-in-action-awards-2025/riaa-honoree-gloria-reuben/


    And something that reflects her BOSTON BLUE look https://www.tiktok.com/@gloreuben/video/7366445544597654830

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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 10:39:47 2025
    On 2025-10-18 8:08 p.m., danny burstein wrote:
    In <10d18bu$25ga0$1@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:

    [snip]
    And, hmmm, Gloria Reuben? Even at 60 I'll be sure to check
    the show out.

    ahhhh.. thought so.. She was in a bunch of the Jesse Stone
    tv-movies.

    She's Canadian so it's possible they cast her because they shoot all of
    the interiors in Toronto.

    dammit, so I've got me Yet Another Unobtainable Canadian Heart Throb..


    Yup. Maybe you need to think about moving here since you seem to like
    our women ;-)

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 10:42:01 2025
    On 2025-10-19 1:01 a.m., anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-18 4:37 p.m., anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?




    [spoiler space]










































    I gather the writers initially had a rather different story in mind but >>>> CBS pressured them into modifying it substantially to incorporate lots >>>> of Blue Blood elements into it and moving it to Boston.


    Yeah, they clearly had a whole show here and just sandwiched

    Danny into it as an afterthought. Of course they had a whole show that I >>> wouldn?t have watched, except that they added Danny.


    It was better than I expected. They came up with a plausible reason for >>>> Danny to go to Boston - and for Sean to be *in* Boston as a cop - and we >>>> got to see Erin and (briefly Baez) with Frank making a phone call to
    check in, although we only heard Danny's side of the call.

    I think we can assume Magnum is still the commissioner otherwise he?d have >>> visited in person.

    I am disappointed in the recasting of Sean because I really didn?t care if >>> the new guy lived or died. It?s like the recasting in NCIS origins.

    I?m also disappointed that Danny paired off with Maria and not Jennifer
    Esposito.



    The fact that
    half of the Boston PD and the district attorney are related is very
    reminiscent of NYPD Blue - and about equally implausible.

    And both the Boston district attorney, and the New York district attorney >>> are pro criminal and anti-cop. That?s just annoying as hell.

    I didn't
    completely follow how this blended family came about except that there >>>> were some divorces. I was a little surprised about the family being
    partially Jewish; I thought Jews were pariahs these days and not to be >>>> mentioned except as genocidal monsters. Treating them as decent people >>>> was a nice touch.

    Yeah, you needed a flow chart to figure out the relations. I can?t figure >>> out why the black family converted to Jewish when the grandfather is a
    preacher.

    I read an article over on Yahoo after I started this thread and it says
    one of the two creators is black *and* Jewish. (And here I was thinking
    Sammy Davis Jr. was the only one ;-) Apparently, he wanted to somewhat
    recreate the dynamic of a family that had a mix of ethnicities and
    religions. (I have no idea if *his* father is a Baptist preacher or if
    he has white people in his family.)

    They showed a quick picture of what seemed to be Maggie Lawson?s family.
    Two black women, one black men, one white woman. I assume the black man was the now dead Ben so the (possibly) Jewish and White component must be his wife, Maggie Lawson?s mother. We have no idea what became of her.


    OK from the close captioning
    Lena (to the Reagans): my mom and dad split up when I was born. I was 13 >>> when Mom married Ben and converted to Judaism. And Sarah is his daughter >>> from his first marriage. She?s been my ride or die since middle school.
    Then Jonah was born right after mom and dad got married. Her golden boy. He >>> joined the police Academy last year right after Ben got killed. he was a >>> circuit judge. Got shot right outside the courthouse.


    The cast skews really really old. Ernie Hudson is 80. Gloria Reuben is 60. >>> Maggie Lawson is 45. The woman from Star Trek is over 40. Danny is pushing >>> 60.


    I liked that they didn't just hire Danny on to the BPD in the first
    episode, although it was pretty clear he could have been hired right
    then and there if he'd wanted to be. I have to wonder how plausible it >>>> would be for a veteran NYPD detective to just transfer to BPD or, more >>>> likely, quit the NYPD and join the BPD. I know a guy who was in the St. >>>> Thomas (Ontario) PD who left after 18 years to join the OPP and he had >>>> to start over from scratch, rather than retaining the sergeant's rank he >>>> had in St. Thomas. Of course he still had lots of experience so worked >>>> his way back up to sergeant fairly quickly. I'm having trouble believing >>>> Danny would just keep his rank, Gold Shield and pension in a move like >>>> that. But this is TV so reality doesn't typically intrude that much.

    I'm curious to see how much of the NYPD Blue cast will drop in.

    They didn?t even bother to mention the other brother.

    I expect
    we'll have more visits if the ratings are weak than if they are good.
    I'm also curious if the original Sean got offered the part of Sean in
    this show or whether they never even gave him a thought.


    Ian?s IMDb listing for the original actor doesn?t show him having anything >>> else coming up and having done nothing but Blue Bloods in the last 10
    years.

    My verdict? Well it?s almost impossible for me to watch. It doesn?t show up >>> on CBS on demand or anything. I can either pay to get it from Paramont or >>> dig it out on the gray. And the link I clicked on the gray turned out to be >>> a scam. I didn?t like that at all. So if I hear Magnum is going to be on it >>> or something I might watch (I?ll rely on Robin to tell me). But I doubt
    I?ll watch it regularly.


    Fair enough. I don't promise to stay with it forever, no matter what:
    I'll bail out if it gets really stupid.

    Just the fact that it has different writers gives it a renewed energy
    that has me interested for now.


    If I still had regular TV or a way to record it, I?d probably give it more
    of a try. But they?ve made it too difficult.

    It's out on the gray if all else fails.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 10:46:18 2025
    On 2025-10-19 1:01 a.m., anim8rfsk wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Oct 18, 2025 at 1:37:11 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I liked that they didn't just hire Danny on to the BPD in the first
    episode, although it was pretty clear he could have been hired right
    then and there if he'd wanted to be. I have to wonder how plausible it >>>> would be for a veteran NYPD detective to just transfer to BPD or, more >>>> likely, quit the NYPD and join the BPD. I know a guy who was in the St. >>>> Thomas (Ontario) PD who left after 18 years to join the OPP and he had >>>> to start over from scratch, rather than retaining the sergeant's rank he >>>> had in St. Thomas. Of course he still had lots of experience so worked >>>> his way back up to sergeant fairly quickly. I'm having trouble believing >>>> Danny would just keep his rank, Gold Shield and pension in a move like >>>> that.

    He wouldn't. Not to mention it would highly piss off all the Boston cops who >> are waiting to promote to have some stranger from another state just parachute
    in and take one of the open spots. The union would have fit.

    But this is TV so reality doesn't typically intrude that much.

    I'm curious to see how much of the NYPD Blue cast will drop in.

    They didn?t even bother to mention the other brother.

    I expect
    we'll have more visits if the ratings are weak than if they are good.
    I'm also curious if the original Sean got offered the part of Sean in
    this show or whether they never even gave him a thought.

    If they offered it to him, it was probably on the condition that he lose a 150
    pounds.

    Yeah, Sean was the porky one wasn?t he?

    I wonder how much time passed between the end of Blue Bloods and this? Sean needed to finish college and failed to become a cop having gone through the police Academy in New York and move to Boston. probably go through the
    police academy there and then become a cop.



    That would seem like something that would take at least two or three
    years, assuming the better part of a year for the police academy. Or is
    that far shorter a course than I'm imagining?

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 10:53:02 2025
    On 2025-10-18 11:56 p.m., EGK wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 11:42:05 -0400, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?

    Going to leave your spoiler intact and comment without spoilers. I thought Boston Blue came off really cheesy and I can't exactly put my finger on why. Part was the acting by everyone seemed stilted to me. Part was also
    because the case wrapped so easily and another part was how hard they tried to recreate the family atmosphere of Blue Bloods.

    I agree that the crime-of-the-week was too easily resolved but I figure
    the priority for the writers was to introduce us to the characters and
    explain why Danny would suddenly move to Boston. >
    It didn't help that I got really sick of Green. It's nothing against her personally or even her acting. I just got so I absolutely hated the Mary
    Sue they turned her character into on Star Trek Enterprise and there was touches of that here too.

    I hated Discovery and barely finished season 1, only finally getting a
    bit of hope that it might not be utter rubbish in the last few minutes
    of the season finale. But then season 2 was just as suckful so I dropped
    out after just an episode or two and never looked back. I didn't find
    her quite so obnoxious in Boston Blue so am willing to stay with this a
    bit longer.>
    I watched all of Blue Bloods (mostly for Magnum) and liked it but it's sacrilege that you keep calling it NYPD Blue. That was a MUCH better show than Blue Bloods ever was. :)

    Sorry about that, it was completely inadvertent! I didn't even realize
    I'd done that until I saw your post. I agree that NYPD Blue was a lot
    better than Blue Bloods; I still mourn Steven Bochco. >
    [spoiler space]










































    I gather the writers initially had a rather different story in mind but
    CBS pressured them into modifying it substantially to incorporate lots
    of Blue Blood elements into it and moving it to Boston.

    It was better than I expected. They came up with a plausible reason for
    Danny to go to Boston - and for Sean to be *in* Boston as a cop - and we
    got to see Erin and (briefly Baez) with Frank making a phone call to
    check in, although we only heard Danny's side of the call. The fact that
    half of the Boston PD and the district attorney are related is very
    reminiscent of NYPD Blue - and about equally implausible. I didn't
    completely follow how this blended family came about except that there
    were some divorces. I was a little surprised about the family being
    partially Jewish; I thought Jews were pariahs these days and not to be
    mentioned except as genocidal monsters. Treating them as decent people
    was a nice touch.

    I liked that they didn't just hire Danny on to the BPD in the first
    episode, although it was pretty clear he could have been hired right
    then and there if he'd wanted to be. I have to wonder how plausible it
    would be for a veteran NYPD detective to just transfer to BPD or, more
    likely, quit the NYPD and join the BPD. I know a guy who was in the St.
    Thomas (Ontario) PD who left after 18 years to join the OPP and he had
    to start over from scratch, rather than retaining the sergeant's rank he
    had in St. Thomas. Of course he still had lots of experience so worked
    his way back up to sergeant fairly quickly. I'm having trouble believing
    Danny would just keep his rank, Gold Shield and pension in a move like
    that. But this is TV so reality doesn't typically intrude that much.

    I'm curious to see how much of the NYPD Blue cast will drop in. I expect
    we'll have more visits if the ratings are weak than if they are good.
    I'm also curious if the original Sean got offered the part of Sean in
    this show or whether they never even gave him a thought.


    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 11:00:48 2025
    On 2025-10-19 1:44 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?




    [spoiler space]










































    I gather the writers initially had a rather different story in mind but
    CBS pressured them into modifying it substantially to incorporate lots
    of Blue Blood elements into it and moving it to Boston.

    It was better than I expected. They came up with a plausible reason for
    Danny to go to Boston - and for Sean to be *in* Boston as a cop - and we
    got to see Erin and (briefly Baez) with Frank making a phone call to
    check in, although we only heard Danny's side of the call. The fact that
    half of the Boston PD and the district attorney are related is very
    reminiscent of NYPD Blue - and about equally implausible. I didn't
    completely follow how this blended family came about except that there
    were some divorces. I was a little surprised about the family being
    partially Jewish; I thought Jews were pariahs these days and not to be
    mentioned except as genocidal monsters. Treating them as decent people
    was a nice touch.

    Gloria Reuben converted to Judaism to marry; I didn't hear the name of
    the husband. He was the assasinated judge?

    I think her late husband was Ben and yes, he was the assassinated judge. >
    You only have the wife convert because of the children's religion. I
    have no clue which of the children were supposed to be Jewish. She
    attends black Big Church... because that's a thing that Jews do.

    It made zero sense. That and Jews might live on Historic Snob Hill.

    It turns out that Brandon Sonnier, one of the two creators, is black AND Jewish so he was trying to show a family like his own.

    The actress was on that Henry Louis Gates crap, who dug up both
    Ashkenazi and Sephardic ancestry of her father.

    Yeah, I saw that in her IMDB article. Her dad is apparently "mostly"
    white but has some black roots as well. Her mum is presumably all black.>
    She's Canadian, btw.

    Baez woke up perfectly coiffed and with her hair and makeup done. I
    thught she looked great.


    I wonder how long she will be in the show and even if we'll see her
    again. The fact that they haven't even moved in together suggests that
    her character is disposable. Will we see the writers try to put Danny
    and Lena - or maybe her sister - on a romantic track?

    --
    Rhino

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  • From danny burstein@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 15:10:06 2025
    In <10d2t7k$2ggiv$5@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:
    [snip.. re: Gloria Reuben]
    dammit, so I've got me Yet Another Unobtainable Canadian Heart Throb..

    Yup. Maybe you need to think about moving here since you seem to like
    our women ;-)

    hmm, lessee... Chrystia Freeland, Gloria Reuben,
    Dr. Vera Etches (iykyk) [a], "Effie" from Murdoch
    Mysteries...

    Damn, if only you didn't have bagged milk and poutine.

    [a] rot-13
    Va n gjrrg Jrqarfqnl zbeavat, Puvrs Zrqvpny Bssvpre bs Urnygu Qe. Iren Rgpurf nqzvggrq gb qerffvat va gur qnex, orvat qvfgenpgrq nf fur gevrq gb frg hc n fhecevfr sbe ure fbaf naq orvat va n ehfu gb gnyx jvgu bhe Ebo Fabj sbe uvf qnvyl gnyx fubj.

    Va gur zvqfg bs nyy gur znqarff, fur nqzvggrqyl sbetbg gb svavfu trggvat qerffrq.

    Qe. Rgpurf guerj ba ure gvtugf naq enva wnpxrg naq znqr vg nyy gur jnl gb Bggnjn Pvgl Unyy orsber ernyvmvat fur unq sbetbggra ure fxveg.


    --
    _____________________________________________________
    Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
    dannyb@panix.com
    [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 16:03:20 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    [spoiler space]











































    It turns out that Brandon Sonnier, one of the two creators, is black AND >Jewish so he was trying to show a family like his own.

    I saw your comment in a different followup. I don't believe for a minute
    that the Jews ih his family attend church every Sunday.

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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 13:07:42 2025
    On 2025-10-19 12:03 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    [spoiler space]











































    It turns out that Brandon Sonnier, one of the two creators, is black AND
    Jewish so he was trying to show a family like his own.

    I saw your comment in a different followup. I don't believe for a minute
    that the Jews ih his family attend church every Sunday.

    It seems implausible to me too. Maybe we'll see that they only go to
    church on special occasions like weddings and funerals, not every week.

    It's not at all clear yet if Brandon Sonnier's family is as religiously
    mixed as the Greens are in Boston Blue. Perhaps there are no whites and
    no Christians, just black Jews, in Sonnier's family and he's indulging
    in some wishful thinking in imagining a family like this. Or maybe CBS
    made him include whites and Christians for fear of alienating the
    audience over not being diverse enough.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 10:13:09 2025
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?




    [spoiler space]










































    I gather the writers initially had a rather different story in mind but
    CBS pressured them into modifying it substantially to incorporate lots
    of Blue Blood elements into it and moving it to Boston.

    It was better than I expected. They came up with a plausible reason for
    Danny to go to Boston - and for Sean to be *in* Boston as a cop - and we
    got to see Erin and (briefly Baez) with Frank making a phone call to
    check in, although we only heard Danny's side of the call. The fact that
    half of the Boston PD and the district attorney are related is very
    reminiscent of NYPD Blue - and about equally implausible. I didn't
    completely follow how this blended family came about except that there
    were some divorces. I was a little surprised about the family being
    partially Jewish; I thought Jews were pariahs these days and not to be
    mentioned except as genocidal monsters. Treating them as decent people
    was a nice touch.

    Gloria Reuben converted to Judaism to marry; I didn't hear the name of
    the husband. He was the assasinated judge?


    Ben, and yes.

    You only have the wife convert because of the children's religion. I
    have no clue which of the children were supposed to be Jewish.

    The grandfather isn?t Jewish. And he doesn?t live in that house. I assume
    all three kids are Jewish.

    She
    attends black Big Church... because that's a thing that Jews do.

    It made zero sense. That and Jews might live on Historic Snob Hill.


    Like the Reagans, you wonder what their source of income is.

    The actress was on that Henry Louis Gates crap, who dug up both
    Ashkenazi and Sephardic ancestry of her father.

    She's Canadian, btw.

    Baez woke up perfectly coiffed and with her hair and makeup done. I
    thught she looked great.

    . . .




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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 10:13:09 2025
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 22:01:12 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 21:24:15 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein
    <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

    In <1698360352.782508158.977501.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    [snip]

    The cast skews really really old. Ernie Hudson is 80. Gloria Reuben is 60.

    Umm, first, I hate to remind people but anyone here who, for ex,
    wathced "Blue Bloods" from the beginning ain't that young either.

    And, hmmm, Gloria Reuben? Even at 60 I'll be sure to check
    the show out.

    ahhhh.. thought so.. She was in a bunch of the Jesse Stone
    tv-movies.

    It's funny how a change in hair style can influence someone's looks.

    Over on Instagram they have recent pic from her on the show and in
    real life. On the show they gave her a mom/professional style that
    makes her look older. While the real life has the same hair style I
    remember from her ER days which makes her look a bit younger.

    The real life pic.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DOlXsBGkfbQ/

    The BOSTON BLUE pic
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DP659opEh1s/



    Google continues to have me blocked from Instagram.


    Here is an alternate source for a real life picture. https://www.treatmentactiongroup.org/support-us/research-in-action-awards-2025/riaa-honoree-gloria-reuben/


    And something that reflects her BOSTON BLUE look https://www.tiktok.com/@gloreuben/video/7366445544597654830


    Thanks!

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 10:48:38 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-19 1:01 a.m., anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-18 4:37 p.m., anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?




    [spoiler space]










































    I gather the writers initially had a rather different story in mind but >>>>> CBS pressured them into modifying it substantially to incorporate lots >>>>> of Blue Blood elements into it and moving it to Boston.


    Yeah, they clearly had a whole show here and just sandwiched

    Danny into it as an afterthought. Of course they had a whole show that I >>>> wouldn?t have watched, except that they added Danny.


    It was better than I expected. They came up with a plausible reason for >>>>> Danny to go to Boston - and for Sean to be *in* Boston as a cop - and we >>>>> got to see Erin and (briefly Baez) with Frank making a phone call to >>>>> check in, although we only heard Danny's side of the call.

    I think we can assume Magnum is still the commissioner otherwise he?d have >>>> visited in person.

    I am disappointed in the recasting of Sean because I really didn?t care if >>>> the new guy lived or died. It?s like the recasting in NCIS origins.

    I?m also disappointed that Danny paired off with Maria and not Jennifer >>>> Esposito.



    The fact that
    half of the Boston PD and the district attorney are related is very
    reminiscent of NYPD Blue - and about equally implausible.

    And both the Boston district attorney, and the New York district attorney >>>> are pro criminal and anti-cop. That?s just annoying as hell.

    I didn't
    completely follow how this blended family came about except that there >>>>> were some divorces. I was a little surprised about the family being
    partially Jewish; I thought Jews were pariahs these days and not to be >>>>> mentioned except as genocidal monsters. Treating them as decent people >>>>> was a nice touch.

    Yeah, you needed a flow chart to figure out the relations. I can?t figure >>>> out why the black family converted to Jewish when the grandfather is a >>>> preacher.

    I read an article over on Yahoo after I started this thread and it says
    one of the two creators is black *and* Jewish. (And here I was thinking
    Sammy Davis Jr. was the only one ;-) Apparently, he wanted to somewhat
    recreate the dynamic of a family that had a mix of ethnicities and
    religions. (I have no idea if *his* father is a Baptist preacher or if
    he has white people in his family.)

    They showed a quick picture of what seemed to be Maggie Lawson?s family.
    Two black women, one black men, one white woman. I assume the black man was >> the now dead Ben so the (possibly) Jewish and White component must be his
    wife, Maggie Lawson?s mother. We have no idea what became of her.


    OK from the close captioning
    Lena (to the Reagans): my mom and dad split up when I was born. I was 13 >>>> when Mom married Ben and converted to Judaism. And Sarah is his daughter >>>> from his first marriage. She?s been my ride or die since middle school. >>>> Then Jonah was born right after mom and dad got married. Her golden boy. He
    joined the police Academy last year right after Ben got killed. he was a >>>> circuit judge. Got shot right outside the courthouse.


    The cast skews really really old. Ernie Hudson is 80. Gloria Reuben is 60. >>>> Maggie Lawson is 45. The woman from Star Trek is over 40. Danny is pushing >>>> 60.


    I liked that they didn't just hire Danny on to the BPD in the first
    episode, although it was pretty clear he could have been hired right >>>>> then and there if he'd wanted to be. I have to wonder how plausible it >>>>> would be for a veteran NYPD detective to just transfer to BPD or, more >>>>> likely, quit the NYPD and join the BPD. I know a guy who was in the St. >>>>> Thomas (Ontario) PD who left after 18 years to join the OPP and he had >>>>> to start over from scratch, rather than retaining the sergeant's rank he >>>>> had in St. Thomas. Of course he still had lots of experience so worked >>>>> his way back up to sergeant fairly quickly. I'm having trouble believing >>>>> Danny would just keep his rank, Gold Shield and pension in a move like >>>>> that. But this is TV so reality doesn't typically intrude that much. >>>>>
    I'm curious to see how much of the NYPD Blue cast will drop in.

    They didn?t even bother to mention the other brother.

    I expect
    we'll have more visits if the ratings are weak than if they are good. >>>>> I'm also curious if the original Sean got offered the part of Sean in >>>>> this show or whether they never even gave him a thought.


    Ian?s IMDb listing for the original actor doesn?t show him having anything >>>> else coming up and having done nothing but Blue Bloods in the last 10
    years.

    My verdict? Well it?s almost impossible for me to watch. It doesn?t show up
    on CBS on demand or anything. I can either pay to get it from Paramont or >>>> dig it out on the gray. And the link I clicked on the gray turned out to be
    a scam. I didn?t like that at all. So if I hear Magnum is going to be on it
    or something I might watch (I?ll rely on Robin to tell me). But I doubt >>>> I?ll watch it regularly.


    Fair enough. I don't promise to stay with it forever, no matter what:
    I'll bail out if it gets really stupid.

    Just the fact that it has different writers gives it a renewed energy
    that has me interested for now.


    If I still had regular TV or a way to record it, I?d probably give it more >> of a try. But they?ve made it too difficult.

    It's out on the gray if all else fails.


    That?s how I watched it but the first copy I got was booby trapped with
    fake virus warnings

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 10:48:39 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-18 11:56 p.m., EGK wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 11:42:05 -0400, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:

    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?

    Going to leave your spoiler intact and comment without spoilers. I thought >> Boston Blue came off really cheesy and I can't exactly put my finger on why. >> Part was the acting by everyone seemed stilted to me. Part was also
    because the case wrapped so easily and another part was how hard they tried >> to recreate the family atmosphere of Blue Bloods.

    I agree that the crime-of-the-week was too easily resolved but I figure
    the priority for the writers was to introduce us to the characters and explain why Danny would suddenly move to Boston. >

    Which didn?t make a lot of sense. He?s there just to sit by Sean?s bedside
    and yet he spends all his time out fighting crime instead?



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  • From EGK@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 14:12:11 2025
    On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 10:48:39 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-18 11:56 p.m., EGK wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 11:42:05 -0400, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> >>> wrote:

    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?

    Going to leave your spoiler intact and comment without spoilers. I thought >>> Boston Blue came off really cheesy and I can't exactly put my finger on why.
    Part was the acting by everyone seemed stilted to me. Part was also
    because the case wrapped so easily and another part was how hard they tried >>> to recreate the family atmosphere of Blue Bloods.

    I agree that the crime-of-the-week was too easily resolved but I figure
    the priority for the writers was to introduce us to the characters and
    explain why Danny would suddenly move to Boston. >

    Which didn?t make a lot of sense. He?s there just to sit by Sean?s bedside >and yet he spends all his time out fighting crime instead?

    Well, obviously Boston has no other detectives or at least competent ones. Didn't you notice how Danny dressed-down the detective who seems to dislike
    the nepotism the show was dripping with? heh
    Hell, at least on Blue Bloods they tried to have Magnum make a specific
    point that he wasn't going to play favorites for his kids.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 19 18:23:18 2025
    On Oct 19, 2025 at 10:48:39 AM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-18 11:56 p.m., EGK wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 11:42:05 -0400, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> >>> wrote:

    So, what did everyone think of the Boston Blue pilot?

    Going to leave your spoiler intact and comment without spoilers. I thought
    Boston Blue came off really cheesy and I can't exactly put my finger on why.
    Part was the acting by everyone seemed stilted to me. Part was also
    because the case wrapped so easily and another part was how hard they tried
    to recreate the family atmosphere of Blue Bloods.

    I agree that the crime-of-the-week was too easily resolved but I figure
    the priority for the writers was to introduce us to the characters and
    explain why Danny would suddenly move to Boston. >

    Which didn?t make a lot of sense. He?s there just to sit by Sean?s bedside and yet he spends all his time out fighting crime instead?

    Yeah, that was my first WTF moment. He drops everything and races from New
    York to be with his injured kid, then spends literally three minutes in the hospital before he decides to run out on the street and start working a crime where he has no jurisdiction. It's like they brought in Erin later just to alleviate what must have appeared even to the writers to be a complete lack of concern for his son's medical condition: "Is Moynahan available? She is?
    Great, we'll get her so that she can sit in the hospital with Sean and Danny won't appear to be a monstrous jackass."



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