Subject: "The View" Host's Tirade Over Shutdown Ending Is A Master Class In Gaslighting

Sunny Hostin used her time on Monday's broadcast of "The View" to blame Republicans for the government shutdown -- which was caused by Democrats who refused to vote for a clean Continuing Resolution (CR) -- and trash Democrats for voting to reopen the government.

Hostin joined her cohosts on the ABC midday talk show, where she complained about the fact that eight Democrats had voted to reopen the government and called for Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to be replaced as a party leader.

Cohost Whoopi Goldberg, earlier in the conversation, conceded that Democrats were using the shutdown to force Republicans into submission -- but she also admitted that it had not worked. She then attempted to stir up panic by claiming that people who were due back pay when the shutdown officially ends might not get it.

"So surprise me and show me that this is really that people are going to get their money. That people are going to get the money that they are entitled to," she said. "Federal workers and reinstate snap benefits but a 50-50
chance of extending the subsidies, I don't believe it."

WATCH:

Desperate to cling to a narrative that was just shattered, Sunny
Hostin is still insisting that Republicans were the ones who shut
down the government and RAGES at Democrats for giving in:

"This was a choice by Republicans to cut SNAP benefits! This was
a choice by Republicans... pic.twitter.com/q3DtEjLOKd

-- Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) November 10, 2025

Hostin followed that by dismissing the facts outright and replacing them with her own personal assessment of the way things had gone down.

"Look, let's be clear. Republicans run the House, the Republicans run the Senate, the Republicans run the White House, the Republicans run the Supreme Court as far as I'm concerned," Hostin said, failing to note that to pass the Senate, Republicans needed 60 votes and could not get that without Democrats. "This was a choice by Republicans to cut SNAP benefits! This was a choice by Republicans to cut ACA subsidies! This was a choice by the Republicans to gut the federal government and federal employment! Democrats had nothing to do with it! I want an opposition party! I think the Democrats caved! I think the Democrats let down the American people!"

"So, the bottom line is the Democrats went into this after a blue wave, the American people saying we do want the opposition. The working people want the Democratic Party to fight for them. And now they just caved and surrendered.
I think Chuck Schumer, his days are over. If he cannot keep his caucus together, he needs to go! He needs to be replaced!" she complained.


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Subject: Re: "The View" Host's Tirade Over Shutdown Ending Is A Master Class In Gaslighting

On Nov 13, 2025 at 1:30:45 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

Sunny Hostin used her time on Monday's broadcast of "The View" to blame Republicans for the government shutdown -- which was caused by Democrats who refused to vote for a clean Continuing Resolution (CR) -- and trash Democrats

for voting to reopen the government.

Hostin joined her cohosts on the ABC midday talk show, where she complained about the fact that eight Democrats had voted to reopen the government and called for Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to be replaced as a party leader.

Cohost Whoopi Goldberg, earlier in the conversation, conceded that Democrats were using the shutdown to force Republicans into submission -- but she also admitted that it had not worked. She then attempted to stir up panic by claiming that people who were due back pay when the shutdown officially ends might not get it.

"So surprise me and show me that this is really that people are going to get their money. That people are going to get the money that they are entitled to," she said. "Federal workers and reinstate snap benefits but a 50-50 chance of extending the subsidies, I don't believe it."

Of course the employees who worked through the shutdown will receive their backpay. They *have* to receive it. It would be massively illegal for the government to force employees to work for even a few hours, let alone an
entire month, for free. The employees performed the work, they're entitled to be compensated for it.

As for the SNAPpers, that's a whole different story. These are people who, often proudly, have done nothing to earn their payments, so it would not be illegal to tell the welfare queens to just deal with their 40 days off the taxpayer teat and move on.



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Subject: Re: "The View" Host's Tirade Over Shutdown Ending Is A Master Class In Gaslighting

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

. . .

As for the SNAPpers, that's a whole different story. These are people who, >often proudly, have done nothing to earn their payments, so it would not be >illegal to tell the welfare queens to just deal with their 40 days off the >taxpayer teat and move on.

I think there is a legal argument. Congress authorized the program. It
hasn't been sunsetted, they simply failed to appropriate monies for it
after September 30. The recipients may have a legal claim to the welfare benefits unless there's something in the authorization that specifically
denies benefits that haven't been appropriated.

I'd agree with you had Congress sunsetted the program but nothing ever
gets sunsetted permanently.

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Subject: Re: "The View" Host's Tirade Over Shutdown Ending Is A Master Class In Gaslighting

In article <10f5gmq$2dq1t$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:

On Nov 13, 2025 at 1:30:45 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

Sunny Hostin used her time on Monday's broadcast of "The View" to blame
Republicans for the government shutdown -- which was caused by Democrats
who refused to vote for a clean Continuing Resolution (CR) -- and trash
Democrats for voting to reopen the government.

Hostin joined her cohosts on the ABC midday talk show, where she
complained about the fact that eight Democrats had voted to reopen the
government and called for Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to
be replaced as a party leader.

Cohost Whoopi Goldberg, earlier in the conversation, conceded that
Democrats were using the shutdown to force Republicans into submission -- >> but she also admitted that it had not worked. She then attempted to stir
up panic by claiming that people who were due back pay when the shutdown
officially ends might not get it.

"So surprise me and show me that this is really that people are going to
get their money. That people are going to get the money that they are
entitled to," she said. "Federal workers and reinstate snap benefits but
a 50-50 chance of extending the subsidies, I don't believe it."

Of course the employees who worked through the shutdown will receive their >backpay. They *have* to receive it. It would be massively illegal for the >government to force employees to work for even a few hours, let alone an >entire month, for free. The employees performed the work, they're entitled >to be compensated for it.

As for the SNAPpers, that's a whole different story. These are people who, >often proudly, have done nothing to earn their payments, so it would not be >illegal to tell the welfare queens to just deal with their 40 days off the >taxpayer teat and move on.

A lot of them could benefit fron not eating for a month.

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love this country.


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Subject: Re: "The View" Host's Tirade Over Shutdown Ending Is A Master Class In Gaslighting

Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

In article <10f5gmq$2dq1t$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:

On Nov 13, 2025 at 1:30:45 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

Sunny Hostin used her time on Monday's broadcast of "The View" to blame >>> Republicans for the government shutdown -- which was caused by Democrats >>> who refused to vote for a clean Continuing Resolution (CR) -- and trash >>> Democrats for voting to reopen the government.

Hostin joined her cohosts on the ABC midday talk show, where she
complained about the fact that eight Democrats had voted to reopen the
government and called for Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to >>> be replaced as a party leader.

Cohost Whoopi Goldberg, earlier in the conversation, conceded that
Democrats were using the shutdown to force Republicans into submission -- >>> but she also admitted that it had not worked. She then attempted to stir >>> up panic by claiming that people who were due back pay when the shutdown >>> officially ends might not get it.

"So surprise me and show me that this is really that people are going to >>> get their money. That people are going to get the money that they are
entitled to," she said. "Federal workers and reinstate snap benefits but >>> a 50-50 chance of extending the subsidies, I don't believe it."

Of course the employees who worked through the shutdown will receive their >> backpay. They *have* to receive it. It would be massively illegal for the
government to force employees to work for even a few hours, let alone an
entire month, for free. The employees performed the work, they're entitled >> to be compensated for it.

As for the SNAPpers, that's a whole different story. These are people who, >> often proudly, have done nothing to earn their payments, so it would not be >> illegal to tell the welfare queens to just deal with their 40 days off the >> taxpayer teat and move on.

A lot of them could benefit fron not eating for a month.

We?d benefit if they?d all stop eating for a year.

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