In today's segment on creeping communism, the incoming mayor of Seattle just gave a speech where, among others things, she decried big corporate grocery stores and department stores "who close their stores at will", leaving the community abandoned, and how this will no longer be allowed under her reign.

She's apparently trying to out-communist Mamdani. She seems to think Target or Safeway or Walmart has to ask her for permission to close down a store and she's simply going to refuse and force them to remain open whether they like
it or not.

Forward!



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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

In today's segment on creeping communism, the incoming mayor of Seattle just >gave a speech where, among others things, she decried big corporate grocery >stores and department stores "who close their stores at will", leaving the >community abandoned, and how this will no longer be allowed under her reign.

Stores close as neighborhoods become depopulated. Is it illegal for
people to move out of neighborhoods, moving elsewhere for better
opportunities? Is it illegal not to move into a declining neighborhood
to keep the population up, despite a lack of opporunity?

She's apparently trying to out-communist Mamdani. She seems to think Target or >Safeway or Walmart has to ask her for permission to close down a store and >she's simply going to refuse and force them to remain open whether they like >it or not.

Forward!

Let's not forget that city hall can make a small business put up
$500,000 to $1 million in permits and compliance costs should they
actually with to open a brick-and-mortar store, not to mention charging
sales taxes on every transaction.

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On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 23:26:33 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:

In today's segment on creeping communism, the incoming mayor of Seattle just >gave a speech where, among others things, she decried big corporate grocery >stores and department stores "who close their stores at will", leaving the >community abandoned, and how this will no longer be allowed under her reign.

I think both sides are correct. The lack of stores in certain
communities has been discussed for some time now. So I get where she's
coming from as she's trying to look out for her constituents.

That said I get where the big corporate grocery stores and department
stores are coming from. If they aren't making enough profit to justify
keeping a location going then it makes sense to close that location
down even if it is the only store in an area.

So both sides are looking out for their interests. Now the question is
why are the locations not making money. Is it due to theft or a lack
of customers? How are other businesses doing in the same area. If
other stores are flourishing then maybe the issue is with how closing
stores were being run.

She's apparently trying to out-communist Mamdani. She seems to think Target or >Safeway or Walmart has to ask her for permission to close down a store and >she's simply going to refuse and force them to remain open whether they like >it or not.

Yeah, I don't get how she thinks the businesses won't be able to close
down locations. That's not going to happen. Now maybe she really means
the city will do what it can to help keep the businesses viable. That
would make sense and be within her power, but trying to prevent a
business from closing down isn't going to work.

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shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

Thu, 13 Nov 2025 23:26:33 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

In today's segment on creeping communism, the incoming mayor of Seattle just >>gave a speech where, among others things, she decried big corporate grocery >>stores and department stores "who close their stores at will", leaving the >>community abandoned, and how this will no longer be allowed under her reign.

I think both sides are correct. The lack of stores in certain
communities has been discussed for some time now. So I get where she's
coming from as she's trying to look out for her constituents.

How is she looking out for her constituents by complaining about a
business engaging in an ordinary business practice?

What she's actually doing is deflecting. It's a fairly common political technique to define a boogeyman, come out against it, to gain political support.

She might fix problems in the neighborhood to encourage newcomers to
move in. If that were to happen, if the population increased, the stores wouldn't close.

That said I get where the big corporate grocery stores and department
stores are coming from. If they aren't making enough profit to justify >keeping a location going then it makes sense to close that location
down even if it is the only store in an area.

So both sides are looking out for their interests. . . .

You're wrong shawn. Complaining isn't the same thing as addressing the underlying problem.

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On Fri, 14 Nov 2025 08:10:36 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

Thu, 13 Nov 2025 23:26:33 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

In today's segment on creeping communism, the incoming mayor of Seattle just >>>gave a speech where, among others things, she decried big corporate grocery >>>stores and department stores "who close their stores at will", leaving the >>>community abandoned, and how this will no longer be allowed under her reign.

I think both sides are correct. The lack of stores in certain
communities has been discussed for some time now. So I get where she's >>coming from as she's trying to look out for her constituents.

How is she looking out for her constituents by complaining about a
business engaging in an ordinary business practice?

What she's actually doing is deflecting. It's a fairly common political >technique to define a boogeyman, come out against it, to gain political >support.

She might fix problems in the neighborhood to encourage newcomers to
move in. If that were to happen, if the population increased, the stores >wouldn't close.

That said I get where the big corporate grocery stores and department >>stores are coming from. If they aren't making enough profit to justify >>keeping a location going then it makes sense to close that location
down even if it is the only store in an area.

So both sides are looking out for their interests. . . .

You're wrong shawn. Complaining isn't the same thing as addressing the >underlying problem.

Thanks for proving me right. As usual you focus on some point and
ignore the rest of what I said. I made the point on how she might fix
problems and that complaining alone isn't doing anything other than
letting her constituents know of the problem.

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In article <10f5pf9$2godv$1@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:

In today's segment on creeping communism, the incoming mayor of Seattle just >gave a speech where, among others things, she decried big corporate grocery >stores and department stores "who close their stores at will", leaving the >community abandoned, and how this will no longer be allowed under her reign.

If I hear that nonsenseical phrase, "food desert", one more time... [eye roll]

You know why stores are closing? The locals shoplift and loot them routinely.

She's apparently trying to out-communist Mamdani. She seems to think Target >or Safeway or Walmart has to ask her for permission to close down a store >and she's simply going to refuse and force them to remain open whether they >like it or not.

I believe that might be slavery.



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shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

Fri, 14 Nov 2025 08:10:36 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>: >>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

Thu, 13 Nov 2025 23:26:33 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

In today's segment on creeping communism, the incoming mayor of
Seattle just gave a speech where, among others things, she decried
big corporate grocery stores and department stores "who close their >>>>stores at will", leaving the community abandoned, and how this will
no longer be allowed under her reign.

I think both sides are correct. The lack of stores in certain
communities has been discussed for some time now. So I get where she's >>>coming from as she's trying to look out for her constituents.

How is she looking out for her constituents by complaining about a
business engaging in an ordinary business practice?

What she's actually doing is deflecting. It's a fairly common political >>technique to define a boogeyman, come out against it, to gain political >>support.

She might fix problems in the neighborhood to encourage newcomers to
move in. If that were to happen, if the population increased, the stores >>wouldn't close.

That said I get where the big corporate grocery stores and department >>>stores are coming from. If they aren't making enough profit to justify >>>keeping a location going then it makes sense to close that location
down even if it is the only store in an area.

So both sides are looking out for their interests. . . .

You're wrong shawn. Complaining isn't the same thing as addressing the >>underlying problem.

Thanks for proving me right. As usual you focus on some point and
ignore the rest of what I said. I made the point on how she might fix >problems and that complaining alone isn't doing anything other than
letting her constituents know of the problem.

She's complaining. You're the one who falsely argued "both sides are
correct" when she failed to address the underlying problem. You then
argued that she might fix problems. As she hasn't attempted to do so,
then she cannot possibly be correct as you incorrectly argued.

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