• What Did You Watch? 2025-11-16 (Sunday)

    From Ubiquitous@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 17 04:30:41 2025
    I watched:

    WE ARE THE 80'S

    WE ARE THE 80'S

    WE ARE THE 80'S

    BILL O'REILLY ON THE EPSTEIN EMAIL LEAK FACTS:
    Donald Trump remains a target as the media attempts to connect him to Epstein. https://youtu.be/OofG4gyGEb0?si=ybLdOlykUVsYUF_t

    JACK DOHERTY ARRESTED AND FACING 7 YEARS PRISON..: https://youtu.be/UjJaPMvKUS0?si=gXTgxVsY0YDIpBcN

    THE RAREST SPACE EVENTS YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE IN YOUR LIFETIME:
    Space has insane celestial events that we will never actually see!
    But over your lifetime there will ACTUALLY be rare space celestial
    events visible from Earth! Here's what would they would look like
    if you live well.... and for 100 years. https://youtu.be/EDsFJqt_5vc?si=xvUuGMPW3iMwC5Jn

    LIFE, LIBERTY & LEVIN:
    Democratic party, Mamdani, Socialist

    KRAPOPOLIS:
    "Krapocracy Now!". Tyrannis holds the world's first democratic elections; Deliria finds a new way to antagonize the gods.

    Nice callback to Zeus's condition. I am surprised Deliria hasn't used it
    to her advantage more often. Am I correct that Tyrannis didn't become king again at the end?

    KRAPOPOLIS:
    "Casino". Shlub has a gambling problem; Tyrannis and Stupendous set
    off to sea.

    I found myself bored because the ending was somewhat predictable and there's the plot hole of only Deliria using divine intervention to counter Athena's.

    What did you watch?



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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 17 05:35:28 2025
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    I watched:

    WE ARE THE 80'S

    WE ARE THE 80'S

    WE ARE THE 80'S

    BILL O'REILLY ON THE EPSTEIN EMAIL LEAK FACTS:
    Donald Trump remains a target as the media attempts to connect him to Epstein.
    https://youtu.be/OofG4gyGEb0?si=ybLdOlykUVsYUF_t

    JACK DOHERTY ARRESTED AND FACING 7 YEARS PRISON..: https://youtu.be/UjJaPMvKUS0?si=gXTgxVsY0YDIpBcN

    THE RAREST SPACE EVENTS YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE IN YOUR LIFETIME:
    Space has insane celestial events that we will never actually see!
    But over your lifetime there will ACTUALLY be rare space celestial
    events visible from Earth! Here's what would they would look like
    if you live well.... and for 100 years. https://youtu.be/EDsFJqt_5vc?si=xvUuGMPW3iMwC5Jn

    LIFE, LIBERTY & LEVIN:
    Democratic party, Mamdani, Socialist

    KRAPOPOLIS:
    "Krapocracy Now!". Tyrannis holds the world's first democratic elections; Deliria finds a new way to antagonize the gods.

    Nice callback to Zeus's condition. I am surprised Deliria hasn't used it
    to her advantage more often. Am I correct that Tyrannis didn't become king again at the end?

    KRAPOPOLIS:
    "Casino". Shlub has a gambling problem; Tyrannis and Stupendous set
    off to sea.

    I found myself bored because the ending was somewhat predictable and there's the plot hole of only Deliria using divine intervention to counter Athena's.

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    The Roku channel has the 1990s version of the outer limits in the original naked nudity filled versions.

    The night before I watched the 1960s version which has no nudity but wildly better stories and production values.



    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 17 12:39:10 2025
    On 2025-11-17 7:35 a.m., anim8rfsk wrote:

    What did you watch?


    Robin Hood - S01E04

    Rob's band is still hiding from the forces of the Sheriff and of Earl Huntingdon and turns to robbing a wagon bringing food to the abbey just
    to fill their bellies. One of the men transporting the food joins them reluctantly, fearing worse treatment if he returns to the abbey without
    the food he was sent for. He turns out to be Friar Tuck. Tuck puts the
    rest of the band up to a robbery of the bishop, who is carrying a king's ransom worth of valuables. The robbery doesn't go quite as planned but
    gives us the first mention of "Robin Hood".


    Landman - S02E01

    After a long wait, Landman is back for its second season. Cammy has to
    be impressive in her first gathering of oil moguls after Monty's death
    and manages it. Tommy's daughter gets into a college despite horrifying
    the admissions person with her distinct lack of intelligence and her antideluvian views. Tommy's son "hits" on one of his first wells and calculates that he'll be up around $10 million in two years from the
    profits. Tommy's wife goes off on Tommy and the rest of the family at
    dinner. Tommy's dad is miserable in the senior's home. Tommy's mom dies.


    The Beast in Me

    I watched three (?) episodes of the show. Aggie continues to get
    information on Nile Jarvis.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 17 13:56:12 2025
    I watched "The Skull Hidden for 90 Years | Dragon Man?s
    DNA Just Changed 150,000 BCE."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
    8zkiNDPCs7E&list=WL&index=10

    Dragon Man is a fairly close relative of homo sapiens,
    probably closer than the neanderthals (who are already
    our cousins). This documentary tells the tale of the
    discovery itself and of what it probably means.

    I enjoyed having the leisure to kick back and watch
    something interesting. I want to regain that. I need to
    find a decent place to live, though being able to watch
    TV is only a small part of the reason.


    Melissa




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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 17 12:00:29 2025
    On 11/17/25 4:35 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    The Roku channel has the 1990s version of the outer limits in the original naked nudity filled versions.

    The night before I watched the 1960s version which has no nudity but wildly better stories and production values.

    Hey! Did I miss any good TV while I was away at the wedding?!! ;p




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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 17 21:04:18 2025
    On Nov 17, 2025 at 1:30:41 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    What did you watch?

    I watched PARANORMAL ACTIVITY: The Stage Play at the Ahmanson Theatre.

    It was a separate stand-alone story set in the PACU (Paranormal Activity Cinematic Universe). It was an extremely well done production. The original movie was disturbing enough but it's a whole new level of creepy when the spooky stuff is happening right in front of you in real time. Whoever designed the illusions for it deserves an award. Some genuinely chills-down-your-back moments. I told the girlfriend that if we'd made a drinking game out of how many times she said "Oh, hell no" during this thing, I would've been
    completely plastered by intermission.



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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 17 14:33:55 2025
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 11/17/25 4:35 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    The Roku channel has the 1990s version of the outer limits in the original >> naked nudity filled versions.

    The night before I watched the 1960s version which has no nudity but wildly >> better stories and production values.

    Hey! Did I miss any good TV while I was away at the wedding?!! ;p


    Not that I am aware of. Welcome back!



    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 17 14:33:56 2025
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    I watched:

    WE ARE THE 80'S

    WE ARE THE 80'S

    WE ARE THE 80'S

    BILL O'REILLY ON THE EPSTEIN EMAIL LEAK FACTS:
    Donald Trump remains a target as the media attempts to connect him to Epstein.
    https://youtu.be/OofG4gyGEb0?si=ybLdOlykUVsYUF_t

    JACK DOHERTY ARRESTED AND FACING 7 YEARS PRISON..:
    https://youtu.be/UjJaPMvKUS0?si=gXTgxVsY0YDIpBcN

    THE RAREST SPACE EVENTS YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE IN YOUR LIFETIME:
    Space has insane celestial events that we will never actually see!
    But over your lifetime there will ACTUALLY be rare space celestial
    events visible from Earth! Here's what would they would look like
    if you live well.... and for 100 years.
    https://youtu.be/EDsFJqt_5vc?si=xvUuGMPW3iMwC5Jn

    LIFE, LIBERTY & LEVIN:
    Democratic party, Mamdani, Socialist

    KRAPOPOLIS:
    "Krapocracy Now!". Tyrannis holds the world's first democratic elections; >> Deliria finds a new way to antagonize the gods.

    Nice callback to Zeus's condition. I am surprised Deliria hasn't used it
    to her advantage more often. Am I correct that Tyrannis didn't become king >> again at the end?

    KRAPOPOLIS:
    "Casino". Shlub has a gambling problem; Tyrannis and Stupendous set
    off to sea.

    I found myself bored because the ending was somewhat predictable and there's
    the plot hole of only Deliria using divine intervention to counter Athena's. >>
    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    The Roku channel has the 1990s version of the outer limits in the original naked nudity filled versions.

    The night before I watched the 1960s version which has no nudity but wildly better stories and production values.

    While I was in the gray, I trackered down TRACKER episode five.

    More of the same and all of it boring.

    The lawyer is late but seems to be on top of things. The new assistant is suspicious, but seems to be on top of things. The tech guy seems
    superfluous, but seems to be on top of things.

    More teenagers lost in the woods with one helpful cop or forest Ranger, or whatever he was.

    They run into the guys from deliverance and there was absolutely no reason
    for tracker not to just shoot them dead.

    Tracker takes the fee and even accepts a tip.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 17 17:57:53 2025
    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 18 10:34:08 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.


    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 18 18:32:32 2025
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.


    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot underwater.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 18 23:52:52 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth >>> and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.


    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot underwater.


    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being 5 miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    Except it all looked like it was shot in a high school cafeteria anyway.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 19 04:30:42 2025
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth >>>> and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the >>> effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the >domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team >told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being >five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
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  • From super70s@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 19 07:07:47 2025
    On 2025-11-19 06:52:52 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth >>>> and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.


    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the >>> effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.


    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the domes.

    Do they still make those? That was one of the coolest toys ever
    introduced in the 1960s.

    I subscribe to that Remind magazine, the current issue is about classic
    toys & games. I thought it was a glaring omission when they didn't
    include the Spirograph in the '60s section.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being 5 miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    Except it all looked like it was shot in a high school cafeteria anyway.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 19 06:44:03 2025
    On 11/18/2025 10:52 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth >>>> and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.


    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the >>> effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.


    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being 5 miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    Except it all looked like it was shot in a high school cafeteria anyway.

    I have the books that Ellison and Bova wrote based on their experiences
    with 'The Starlost' on order.

    And I just watched the first episode with Chekov in go-go boots last
    night. I may be scarred for life.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 19 13:22:07 2025
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth >>>>> and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the >>>> effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being >> five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.



    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 19 13:22:08 2025
    super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
    On 2025-11-19 06:52:52 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth >>>>> and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.


    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the >>>> effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.


    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    Do they still make those? That was one of the coolest toys ever
    introduced in the 1960s.

    Yep. Lots of variations. Cheap, too.

    I've shared a Brand Store on Amazon with you. https://www.amazon.com/stores/Spirograph/page/CF1AB41B-B6EA-4B3D-8697-DE33B40D8BE2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_i=B01BHMJKAA&ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_ast_store_0DNE7BV16WEB8Y84F6VK&store_ref=SBV_A0745323PDAPQFY4Q4R9-A05562502QNJKQKH27DRF&lp_asins=B01BHMJKAA%2CB0DKK4R6R9&pd_rd_w=GRqoU&content-id=amzn1.sym.e2c0b4b3-407d-4c4f-9d2b-fd120ec9dafb%3Aamzn1.sym.e2c0b4b3-407d-4c4f-9d2b-fd120ec9dafb&pf_rd_p=e2c0b4b3-407d-4c4f-9d2b-fd120ec9dafb&pf_rd_r=YEC3P3Z9VSCVAZBE0ETT&pd_rd_wg=RfeRW&pd_rd_r=80cb569e-74b0-4f7f-9a12-614843f44049


    I subscribe to that Remind magazine, the current issue is about classic
    toys & games. I thought it was a glaring omission when they didn't
    include the Spirograph in the '60s section.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being 5 >> miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create. >>
    Except it all looked like it was shot in a high school cafeteria anyway.






    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 19 13:22:09 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 10:52 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth >>>>> and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.


    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the >>>> effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.


    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being 5 >> miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create. >>
    Except it all looked like it was shot in a high school cafeteria anyway.

    I have the books that Ellison and Bova wrote based on their experiences
    with 'The Starlost' on order.

    Phoenix without ashes?


    And I just watched the first episode with Chekov in go-go boots last
    night. I may be scarred for life.


    Hee hee


    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 19 17:59:04 2025
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 10:52 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth >>>>>> and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.


    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the >>>>> effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us. >>>>>
    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>>> underwater.


    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the >>> domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team >>> told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being 5 >>> miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create. >>>
    Except it all looked like it was shot in a high school cafeteria anyway. >>>
    I have the books that Ellison and Bova wrote based on their experiences
    with 'The Starlost' on order.

    Phoenix without ashes?

    and 'The Starcrossed'.


    And I just watched the first episode with Chekov in go-go boots last
    night. I may be scarred for life.


    Hee hee




    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 19 18:01:28 2025
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth >>>>>> and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the >>>>> effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us. >>>>>
    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>>> underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the >>> domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team >>> told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being >>> five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create. >>
    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.

    --
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    dirty old man.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 19 21:05:36 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us. >>>>>>
    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>>>> underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the >>>> domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team >>>> told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being >>>> five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create. >>>
    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the
    Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJn24jLOliDU7yX43EeyJo7BIZ-JQ8XliIgTGAWzqCsSdbBow3wjCMrPrS&s=10

    --
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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 19 21:05:37 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 10:52 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.


    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us. >>>>>>
    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>>>> underwater.


    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the >>>> domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team >>>> told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being 5
    miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create. >>>>
    Except it all looked like it was shot in a high school cafeteria anyway. >>>>
    I have the books that Ellison and Bova wrote based on their experiences
    with 'The Starlost' on order.

    Phoenix without ashes?

    and 'The Starcrossed'.

    Ah yeah. Got them both. Somewhere.





    And I just watched the first episode with Chekov in go-go boots last
    night. I may be scarred for life.


    Hee hee







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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 00:43:17 2025
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us. >>>>>>>
    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>>>>> underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the >>>>> domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team >>>>> told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being >>>>> five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles. >>

    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJn24jLOliDU7yX43EeyJo7BIZ-JQ8XliIgTGAWzqCsSdbBow3wjCMrPrS&s=10


    The Starlost is on the Plex. I?ve just watched the first episode. The
    narrator says there are 3 million people or at least were when it started
    out.

    Mr. Google says there are 37 domes. I can?t find anything that says if
    that?s total or surviving since there are obviously some dead ones.
    Supposedly they are in four groups, three groups of 10 and one of seven. I
    can see four groups in the photo above, but I don?t see how you possibly
    count 10 or seven in any of them.

    Siri what?s 3,000,000ö37?

    So that?s 80,000 people per dome. They?re gonna need a dome a lot bigger
    than 5 miles across for that. Also, the dome they start out in doesn?t seem
    to have more than about 20 people.

    Other articles say there are 53 domes and the size of the overall thing is reported variously from 200 miles to 8000 miles.

    Well, IMDb says it?s over 1000 miles and another site says it?s got 500
    million people. I think they?re just making this stuff up.

    Here?s what may be a fair history and overview

    https://www.allsci-fi.com/viewtopic.php?t=3827&sid=6063e10d946fb99d8efba93b7ae72f82

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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 04:32:25 2025
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the >>>>>>>> mouth and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from >>>>>>> the effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>>>>> underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the >>>>> domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects >>>>> team told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>> to being five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles. >>

    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    They couldn't see the model.

    --
    Not a joke! Don't jump!


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From super70s@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 07:25:34 2025
    In article
    <523133216.785275609.294506.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
    On 2025-11-19 06:52:52 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the >>>>> mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.


    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from >>>> the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us. >>>>
    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>> underwater.


    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the >> domes.

    Do they still make those? That was one of the coolest toys ever
    introduced in the 1960s.

    Yep. Lots of variations. Cheap, too.

    I've shared a Brand Store on Amazon with you. https://www.amazon.com/stores/Spirograph/page/CF1AB41B-B6EA-4B3D-8697-DE33B40D
    8BE2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_i=B01BHMJKAA&ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_ast_sto
    re_0DNE7BV16WEB8Y84F6VK&store_ref=SBV_A0745323PDAPQFY4Q4R9-A05562502QNJKQKH27D
    RF&lp_asins=B01BHMJKAA%2CB0DKK4R6R9&pd_rd_w=GRqoU&content-id=amzn1.sym.e2c0b4b
    3-407d-4c4f-9d2b-fd120ec9dafb%3Aamzn1.sym.e2c0b4b3-407d-4c4f-9d2b-fd120ec9dafb
    &pf_rd_p=e2c0b4b3-407d-4c4f-9d2b-fd120ec9dafb&pf_rd_r=YEC3P3Z9VSCVAZBE0ETT&pd_
    rd_wg=RfeRW&pd_rd_r=80cb569e-74b0-4f7f-9a12-614843f44049

    Let's hope they at least used the deluxe "metal template version" to
    design the Ark. :)

    BTW for future reference when you have a very long URL like that you can delete all the stuff after the question mark (?), including the ?. All
    that is is tracking info.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 07:14:28 2025
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us. >>>>>>>
    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>>>>> underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the >>>>> domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team >>>>> told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being >>>>> five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles. >>

    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 07:50:37 2025
    On 11/20/2025 7:14 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'.ÿ One of >>>>>>>>> the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at >>>>>>>>> the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises >>>>>>>> from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were >>>>>>> shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top >>>>>> of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the
    effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across
    to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to >>>>>> create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them.ÿ That would be a bit more than 50
    miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the
    Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?

    Though actually they found the bridge in the second episode. After that
    they were looking for live people who could MAN the bridge, change the
    Ark's course and were willing to do so.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 13:10:50 2025
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>>>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the >>>>>>>>> mouth and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from >>>>>>>> the effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>>>>>> underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the >>>>>> domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects >>>>>> team told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>>> to being five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles. >>>

    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldnƒ??t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the
    Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    They couldn't see the model.

    That would be nice, but in the pilot they find the bridge and somehow it?s
    up high and behind the ark with wrap around windows. So they know exactly
    what the ship looks like! :-)



    --
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    --
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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 13:10:51 2025
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>>>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the >>>>>>>>> mouth and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from >>>>>>>> the effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>>>>>> underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the >>>>>> domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects >>>>>> team told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>>> to being five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles. >>>

    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldnƒ??t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the
    Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    They couldn't see the model.

    That would be nice, but in the pilot they find the bridge and somehow it?s
    up high and behind the ark with wrap around windows. So they know exactly
    what the ship looks like! :-)


    --
    Not a joke! Don't jump!





    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 13:10:52 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many >>>>>>>>> adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us. >>>>>>>>
    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>>>>>> underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the >>>>>> domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles. >>>

    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the
    Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?


    That they are.

    So you can only save 3 million people from all of earth. And you?re taking somewhere around 40 groups. And you decide to take 80,000 Amish? Why?

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 13:10:54 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 7:14 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'.ÿ One of >>>>>>>>>> the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at >>>>>>>>>> the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises >>>>>>>>> from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were >>>>>>>> shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top >>>>>>> of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the
    effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>>>> to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to >>>>>>> create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them.ÿ That would be a bit more than 50
    miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the
    Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?

    Though actually they found the bridge in the second episode. After that they were looking for live people who could MAN the bridge, change the
    Ark's course and were willing to do so.


    Watch the first two episodes last night. They find the bridge in the pilot.
    In the second episode, they find med bay which has some people that have reverted to savagery and a huge sleeper section full of corpse sicles. So
    they unfreeze Frank Converse, but he?s a poor choice because he?s dying of radiation sickness.

    But here?s the thing. They relocate the savages (luckily there?s an empty agricultural dome) and they refreeze Frank Converse after he gives them a
    lot of information but? They decide to move on. Now, why? They?ve got the helpful computer who can tell them things about the frozen dead. Likely
    anybody who can actually help them get the ship back on course is right
    there. They?re in med Bay. Find out about all the frozen technicians from
    the computer interface and start defrosting them!

    But instead episode three finds them with a crumpled up paper chart
    visiting the omicron dome, which has no women.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 18:19:41 2025
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 7:14 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'.ÿ One of >>>>>>>>>>> the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at >>>>>>>>>>> the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises >>>>>>>>>> from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were >>>>>>>>> shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top >>>>>>>> of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the
    effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>>>>> to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to >>>>>>>> create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them.ÿ That would be a bit more than 50 >>>>> miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?

    Though actually they found the bridge in the second episode. After that
    they were looking for live people who could MAN the bridge, change the
    Ark's course and were willing to do so.


    Watch the first two episodes last night. They find the bridge in the pilot. In the second episode, they find med bay which has some people that have reverted to savagery and a huge sleeper section full of corpse sicles. So they unfreeze Frank Converse, but he?s a poor choice because he?s dying of radiation sickness.

    But here?s the thing. They relocate the savages (luckily there?s an empty agricultural dome) and they refreeze Frank Converse after he gives them a
    lot of information but? They decide to move on. Now, why? They?ve got the helpful computer who can tell them things about the frozen dead. Likely anybody who can actually help them get the ship back on course is right there. They?re in med Bay. Find out about all the frozen technicians from
    the computer interface and start defrosting them!

    But instead episode three finds them with a crumpled up paper chart
    visiting the omicron dome, which has no women.

    Pretty typical of TV series where there is a "final" goal. You can't
    let the leads get too close to the solution because that would be the
    end of the show.

    And in another note, I received my copy of 'The Starcrossed' today.

    It was bound in reverse order. Last page first and first page last.
    Reported it to the big river and they said they'd send me another copy
    free. Don't have to return the defective one.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 18:20:21 2025
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us. >>>>>>>>>
    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>>>>>>> underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the
    Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?


    That they are.

    So you can only save 3 million people from all of earth. And you?re taking somewhere around 40 groups. And you decide to take 80,000 Amish? Why?

    Because they know how to farm with hand tools.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 18:21:10 2025
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the >>>>>>>>>> mouth and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from >>>>>>>>> the effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot >>>>>>>> underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects >>>>>>> team told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>>>> to being five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldnƒ??t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the
    Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    They couldn't see the model.

    That would be nice, but in the pilot they find the bridge and somehow it?s
    up high and behind the ark with wrap around windows. So they know exactly what the ship looks like! :-)

    Why are you assuming Our Heroes are smart enough to look out the windows
    at the ship?

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 20 21:24:55 2025
    On 11/20/2025 6:21 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'.ÿ One of >>>>>>>>>>> the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing >>>>>>>>>>> at the
    mouth and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits. >>>>>>>>>>
    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose
    promises from
    the effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor >>>>>>>>>> scat on
    us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they >>>>>>>>> were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on >>>>>>>> top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the
    effects
    team told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles >>>>>>>> across
    to being five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive >>>>>>>> to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them.ÿ That would be a bit more than
    50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldnƒ??t >>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    They couldn't see the model.

    That would be nice, but in the pilot they find the bridge and somehow
    it?s
    up high and behind the ark with wrap around windows. So they know exactly
    what the ship looks like! :-)

    Why are you assuming Our Heroes are smart enough to look out the windows
    at the

    Well, I've gotten thru episode 12. Only 4 more to go. I think the most entertaining part of the show is the computer avatar, his mannerisms and speech patterns make me think he's a humanoid turtle. :D And the
    scariest bit is that prosthetic mustache 2001 guy has attached to his
    face. O_O

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Fri Nov 21 00:56:59 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 7:14 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'.ÿ One of >>>>>>>>>>>> the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at >>>>>>>>>>>> the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises >>>>>>>>>>> from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were >>>>>>>>>> shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top >>>>>>>>> of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the >>>>>>>>> effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>>>>>> to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to >>>>>>>>> create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them.ÿ That would be a bit more than 50 >>>>>> miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t >>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?

    Though actually they found the bridge in the second episode. After that >>> they were looking for live people who could MAN the bridge, change the
    Ark's course and were willing to do so.


    Watch the first two episodes last night. They find the bridge in the pilot. >> In the second episode, they find med bay which has some people that have
    reverted to savagery and a huge sleeper section full of corpse sicles. So
    they unfreeze Frank Converse, but he?s a poor choice because he?s dying of >> radiation sickness.

    But here?s the thing. They relocate the savages (luckily there?s an empty
    agricultural dome) and they refreeze Frank Converse after he gives them a
    lot of information but? They decide to move on. Now, why? They?ve got the
    helpful computer who can tell them things about the frozen dead. Likely
    anybody who can actually help them get the ship back on course is right
    there. They?re in med Bay. Find out about all the frozen technicians from
    the computer interface and start defrosting them!

    But instead episode three finds them with a crumpled up paper chart
    visiting the omicron dome, which has no women.

    Pretty typical of TV series where there is a "final" goal. You can't
    let the leads get too close to the solution because that would be the
    end of the show.

    And in another note, I received my copy of 'The Starcrossed' today.

    It was bound in reverse order. Last page first and first page last. Reported it to the big river and they said they'd send me another copy
    free. Don't have to return the defective one.


    Could you read it in a mirror?

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Fri Nov 21 00:57:00 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us. >>>>>>>>>>
    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t
    support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?


    That they are.

    So you can only save 3 million people from all of earth. And you?re taking >> somewhere around 40 groups. And you decide to take 80,000 Amish? Why?

    Because they know how to farm with hand tools.


    Yeah, that?s all I could think of. I don?t think we need 80000 of them
    though. And why aren?t they in the empty agricultural dome?

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Fri Nov 21 00:57:01 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the >>>>>>>>>>> mouth and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits. >>>>>>>>>>
    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from
    the effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects >>>>>>>> team told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>>>>> to being five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our
    Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldnƒ??t >>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    They couldn't see the model.

    That would be nice, but in the pilot they find the bridge and somehow it?s >> up high and behind the ark with wrap around windows. So they know exactly
    what the ship looks like! :-)

    Why are you assuming Our Heroes are smart enough to look out the windows
    at the ship?


    Lol

    Well, they did, and they even talked about it.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Fri Nov 21 00:57:02 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 6:21 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'.ÿ One of >>>>>>>>>>>> the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing >>>>>>>>>>>> at the
    mouth and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits. >>>>>>>>>>>
    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose >>>>>>>>>>> promises from
    the effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor >>>>>>>>>>> scat on
    us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they >>>>>>>>>> were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on >>>>>>>>> top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the >>>>>>>>> effects
    team told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles >>>>>>>>> across
    to being five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive >>>>>>>>> to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them.ÿ That would be a bit more than >>>>>> 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldnƒ??t >>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    They couldn't see the model.

    That would be nice, but in the pilot they find the bridge and somehow
    it?s
    up high and behind the ark with wrap around windows. So they know exactly >>> what the ship looks like! :-)

    Why are you assuming Our Heroes are smart enough to look out the windows
    at the

    Well, I've gotten thru episode 12. Only 4 more to go. I think the most entertaining part of the show is the computer avatar, his mannerisms and speech patterns make me think he's a humanoid turtle. :D And the
    scariest bit is that prosthetic mustache 2001 guy has attached to his
    face. O_O


    Yeah, how did he possibly avoid a career in porn?

    By the way, there are 37 domes and that includes the handful of wrecked
    ones.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Fri Nov 21 07:24:09 2025
    On 11/20/2025 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 7:14 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'.ÿ One of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at >>>>>>>>>>>>> the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises >>>>>>>>>>>> from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were >>>>>>>>>>> shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top >>>>>>>>>> of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the >>>>>>>>>> effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>>>>>>> to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to >>>>>>>>>> create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take >>>>>>> multiple days to walk across them.ÿ That would be a bit more than 50 >>>>>>> miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t >>>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core >>>>>>
    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?

    Though actually they found the bridge in the second episode. After that >>>> they were looking for live people who could MAN the bridge, change the >>>> Ark's course and were willing to do so.


    Watch the first two episodes last night. They find the bridge in the pilot. >>> In the second episode, they find med bay which has some people that have >>> reverted to savagery and a huge sleeper section full of corpse sicles. So >>> they unfreeze Frank Converse, but he?s a poor choice because he?s dying of >>> radiation sickness.

    But here?s the thing. They relocate the savages (luckily there?s an empty >>> agricultural dome) and they refreeze Frank Converse after he gives them a >>> lot of information but? They decide to move on. Now, why? They?ve got the >>> helpful computer who can tell them things about the frozen dead. Likely
    anybody who can actually help them get the ship back on course is right
    there. They?re in med Bay. Find out about all the frozen technicians from >>> the computer interface and start defrosting them!

    But instead episode three finds them with a crumpled up paper chart
    visiting the omicron dome, which has no women.

    Pretty typical of TV series where there is a "final" goal. You can't
    let the leads get too close to the solution because that would be the
    end of the show.

    And in another note, I received my copy of 'The Starcrossed' today.

    It was bound in reverse order. Last page first and first page last.
    Reported it to the big river and they said they'd send me another copy
    free. Don't have to return the defective one.


    Could you read it in a mirror?

    The pages are printed correctly, just in the wrong order.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Fri Nov 21 07:25:11 2025
    On 11/20/2025 11:57 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take
    multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t >>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core

    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?


    That they are.

    So you can only save 3 million people from all of earth. And you?re taking >>> somewhere around 40 groups. And you decide to take 80,000 Amish? Why?

    Because they know how to farm with hand tools.


    Yeah, that?s all I could think of. I don?t think we need 80000 of them though. And why aren?t they in the empty agricultural dome?

    Because they are in their own agricultural dome.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Fri Nov 21 21:24:15 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 7:14 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'.ÿ One of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises >>>>>>>>>>>>> from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were >>>>>>>>>>>> shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top >>>>>>>>>>> of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the >>>>>>>>>>> effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>>>>>>>> to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to >>>>>>>>>>> create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take >>>>>>>> multiple days to walk across them.ÿ That would be a bit more than 50 >>>>>>>> miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t >>>>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core >>>>>>>
    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?

    Though actually they found the bridge in the second episode. After that >>>>> they were looking for live people who could MAN the bridge, change the >>>>> Ark's course and were willing to do so.


    Watch the first two episodes last night. They find the bridge in the pilot.
    In the second episode, they find med bay which has some people that have >>>> reverted to savagery and a huge sleeper section full of corpse sicles. So >>>> they unfreeze Frank Converse, but he?s a poor choice because he?s dying of >>>> radiation sickness.

    But here?s the thing. They relocate the savages (luckily there?s an empty >>>> agricultural dome) and they refreeze Frank Converse after he gives them a >>>> lot of information but? They decide to move on. Now, why? They?ve got the >>>> helpful computer who can tell them things about the frozen dead. Likely >>>> anybody who can actually help them get the ship back on course is right >>>> there. They?re in med Bay. Find out about all the frozen technicians from >>>> the computer interface and start defrosting them!

    But instead episode three finds them with a crumpled up paper chart
    visiting the omicron dome, which has no women.

    Pretty typical of TV series where there is a "final" goal. You can't
    let the leads get too close to the solution because that would be the
    end of the show.

    And in another note, I received my copy of 'The Starcrossed' today.

    It was bound in reverse order. Last page first and first page last.
    Reported it to the big river and they said they'd send me another copy
    free. Don't have to return the defective one.


    Could you read it in a mirror?

    The pages are printed correctly, just in the wrong order.


    Humor, referring to how they write ambulance backwards, so you can read it
    from a helicopter

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Fri Nov 21 21:24:16 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 11:57 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits.

    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take >>>>>>> multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t >>>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core >>>>>>
    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?


    That they are.

    So you can only save 3 million people from all of earth. And you?re taking >>>> somewhere around 40 groups. And you decide to take 80,000 Amish? Why?

    Because they know how to farm with hand tools.


    Yeah, that?s all I could think of. I don?t think we need 80000 of them
    though. And why aren?t they in the empty agricultural dome?

    Because they are in their own agricultural dome.


    Since the domes are all self-contained and sealed off from each other,
    what?s the point of the empty agricultural dome at all?

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Sat Nov 22 09:00:50 2025
    On 11/21/2025 8:24 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 7:14 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'.ÿ One of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were >>>>>>>>>>>>> shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top >>>>>>>>>>>> of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the >>>>>>>>>>>> effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across >>>>>>>>>>>> to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to >>>>>>>>>>>> create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take >>>>>>>>> multiple days to walk across them.ÿ That would be a bit more than 50 >>>>>>>>> miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t >>>>>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core >>>>>>>>
    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?

    Though actually they found the bridge in the second episode. After that >>>>>> they were looking for live people who could MAN the bridge, change the >>>>>> Ark's course and were willing to do so.


    Watch the first two episodes last night. They find the bridge in the pilot.
    In the second episode, they find med bay which has some people that have >>>>> reverted to savagery and a huge sleeper section full of corpse sicles. So >>>>> they unfreeze Frank Converse, but he?s a poor choice because he?s dying of
    radiation sickness.

    But here?s the thing. They relocate the savages (luckily there?s an empty >>>>> agricultural dome) and they refreeze Frank Converse after he gives them a >>>>> lot of information but? They decide to move on. Now, why? They?ve got the >>>>> helpful computer who can tell them things about the frozen dead. Likely >>>>> anybody who can actually help them get the ship back on course is right >>>>> there. They?re in med Bay. Find out about all the frozen technicians from >>>>> the computer interface and start defrosting them!

    But instead episode three finds them with a crumpled up paper chart
    visiting the omicron dome, which has no women.

    Pretty typical of TV series where there is a "final" goal. You can't
    let the leads get too close to the solution because that would be the
    end of the show.

    And in another note, I received my copy of 'The Starcrossed' today.

    It was bound in reverse order. Last page first and first page last.
    Reported it to the big river and they said they'd send me another copy >>>> free. Don't have to return the defective one.


    Could you read it in a mirror?

    The pages are printed correctly, just in the wrong order.


    Humor, referring to how they write ambulance backwards, so you can read it from a helicopter

    I knew what you meant, I'm just pissed that they fucked up something so
    basic.

    But back to the show, go-go boots Chekov was back. According it IMDb
    this episode was supposed to set him up as a recurring bad guy but that
    didn't happen.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Sat Nov 22 09:01:34 2025
    On 11/21/2025 8:24 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 11:57 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take >>>>>>>> multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t >>>>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core >>>>>>>
    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?


    That they are.

    So you can only save 3 million people from all of earth. And you?re taking
    somewhere around 40 groups. And you decide to take 80,000 Amish? Why? >>>>>
    Because they know how to farm with hand tools.


    Yeah, that?s all I could think of. I don?t think we need 80000 of them
    though. And why aren?t they in the empty agricultural dome?

    Because they are in their own agricultural dome.


    Since the domes are all self-contained and sealed off from each other,
    what?s the point of the empty agricultural dome at all?

    I suspect it was empty because all the original inhabitants had died.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Sat Nov 22 16:51:49 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/21/2025 8:24 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 11:57 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/2025 12:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 8:05 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 12:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/18/2025 9:34 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Over the weekend I got half-way thru 'The Starlost'. One of the many
    adaptations of Harlan Ellison's works that had him frothing at the mouth
    and demanding they use his Bird name in the credits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We had such high hopes for that show and such grandiose promises from the
    effects guys, and then they just dumped the velociraptor scat on us.

    All the shots of the outside of the Ark model look like they were shot
    underwater.

    They actually used a Kenner spirograph to draw the pattern on top of the
    domes.

    One story goes that the final straw for Ellison was when the effects team
    told him they had to change the domes from being 50 miles across to being
    five miles across for budgetary reasons.

    Because the inside of the dome would be 10 times more expensive to create.

    What? That makes no sense!

    Which is why Ellison gave them the bird.

    What's even stupider about it is in one of the episodes one of Our >>>>>>>>> Heroes talks about the biospheres being large enough that it take >>>>>>>>> multiple days to walk across them. That would be a bit more than 50 miles.


    And since all the domes were self sustaining, a 5 mile dome wouldn?t >>>>>>>> support more people than your average office building.

    I also never understood why they had to search the other domes for the >>>>>>>> Control room when it would pretty obviously be in the central core >>>>>>>>
    Because they are ignorant peasants from a hick farming dome?


    That they are.

    So you can only save 3 million people from all of earth. And you?re taking
    somewhere around 40 groups. And you decide to take 80,000 Amish? Why? >>>>>>
    Because they know how to farm with hand tools.


    Yeah, that?s all I could think of. I don?t think we need 80000 of them >>>> though. And why aren?t they in the empty agricultural dome?

    Because they are in their own agricultural dome.


    Since the domes are all self-contained and sealed off from each other,
    what?s the point of the empty agricultural dome at all?

    I suspect it was empty because all the original inhabitants had died.


    Frozen Frank Converse knew it was empty so apparently it had been empty for hundreds of years since the beginning of the voyage. Nobody ever checked on
    its current condition. They just tossed the savages inside.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)