• LANDMAN: The Oilman vs the Environmentalist.

    From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 26 04:00:23 2025
    A great scene from LANDMAN where Billy Bob Thornton schools an environmental-activist lawyer after she admiringly approves of a row of wind turbines in the middle of an oil patch.

    WOKE LAWYER: They're massive.

    BILLY BOB: Four hundred feet tall.

    WOKE LAWYER: Who owns them?

    BILLY BOB: The oil companies. We use 'em to power the wells. No electricity
    out here. We're off the grid.

    WOKE LAWYER (scoffs): They use clean energy to power oil wells?

    BILLY BOB: They use alternative energy. There's nothing clean about this.

    WOKE LAWYER: Please, Mr. Oilman, tell me how the wind is bad for the environment.

    BILLY BOB: Do you have any idea how much diesel they have to burn to mix
    enough concrete to pour the foundation for each one of these turbines? Or make that steel and haul all this shit out here and put it together with a 450-foot crane? You wanna guess how much oil it takes to lubricate that fuckin' thing? Or winterize it? In its entire 20-year lifespan, it won't offset the carbon footprint of making it.

    And don't get me started on solar panels and the lithium in your Tesla
    battery. And never mind the fact that if the whole world decided to go
    electric tomorrow, we don't have the transmission lines to get the electricity to the cities. It'd take 30 years if we started tomorrow.

    And unfortunately for your grandkids, we have a 120-year petroleum-based infrastructure. Our whole lives depend on it. Hell, it's in everything. That road we came in on. The wheels on every car ever made, including your electric car. It's in tennis rackets and lipstick and refrigerators and
    anti-histamines. Pretty much anything plastic. Your cell phone case,
    artificial heart valves. Any kind of clothing that's not made with animal or plant fibers. Soap, fuckin' hand lotion, garbage bags, fishing boats. You name it.

    Every. Fuckin'. Thing.

    And you know what the kicker is? We're gonna run out of it before we find its replacement.

    WOKE LAWYER: It's the thing that's gonna kill us all, as a species.

    BILLY BOB: No, the thing that's gonna kill us all is running out before we
    find an alternative. And believe me, if Exxon thought them fuckin' turbines right there were the future, they'd be putting them all over the goddamn
    place. Gettin' oil out of the ground is the most dangerous job in the world.
    We don't do it because we like it. We do it because we're out of options. And you're out here trying to find something to blame for the danger besides your boss. There ain't nobody to blame but the demand that we keep pumpin' it.



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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 26 10:36:46 2025
    On 2025-11-25 11:00 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    A great scene from LANDMAN where Billy Bob Thornton schools an environmental-activist lawyer after she admiringly approves of a row of wind turbines in the middle of an oil patch.

    WOKE LAWYER: They're massive.

    BILLY BOB: Four hundred feet tall.

    WOKE LAWYER: Who owns them?

    BILLY BOB: The oil companies. We use 'em to power the wells. No electricity out here. We're off the grid.

    WOKE LAWYER (scoffs): They use clean energy to power oil wells?

    BILLY BOB: They use alternative energy. There's nothing clean about this.

    WOKE LAWYER: Please, Mr. Oilman, tell me how the wind is bad for the environment.

    BILLY BOB: Do you have any idea how much diesel they have to burn to mix enough concrete to pour the foundation for each one of these turbines? Or make
    that steel and haul all this shit out here and put it together with a 450-foot
    crane? You wanna guess how much oil it takes to lubricate that fuckin' thing? Or winterize it? In its entire 20-year lifespan, it won't offset the carbon footprint of making it.

    And don't get me started on solar panels and the lithium in your Tesla battery. And never mind the fact that if the whole world decided to go electric tomorrow, we don't have the transmission lines to get the electricity
    to the cities. It'd take 30 years if we started tomorrow.

    And unfortunately for your grandkids, we have a 120-year petroleum-based infrastructure. Our whole lives depend on it. Hell, it's in everything. That road we came in on. The wheels on every car ever made, including your electric
    car. It's in tennis rackets and lipstick and refrigerators and anti-histamines. Pretty much anything plastic. Your cell phone case, artificial heart valves. Any kind of clothing that's not made with animal or plant fibers. Soap, fuckin' hand lotion, garbage bags, fishing boats. You name
    it.

    Every. Fuckin'. Thing.

    And you know what the kicker is? We're gonna run out of it before we find its replacement.

    WOKE LAWYER: It's the thing that's gonna kill us all, as a species.

    BILLY BOB: No, the thing that's gonna kill us all is running out before we find an alternative. And believe me, if Exxon thought them fuckin' turbines right there were the future, they'd be putting them all over the goddamn place. Gettin' oil out of the ground is the most dangerous job in the world. We don't do it because we like it. We do it because we're out of options. And you're out here trying to find something to blame for the danger besides your boss. There ain't nobody to blame but the demand that we keep pumpin' it.


    That conversation was one of the highlights of Season 1. Not because I
    wanted it to be true but because it is. I'd love it if all this
    alternative energy actually made economic sense but it doesn't for the
    reasons enumerated in Tommy's dialog. I know there's a lot of research
    going on better energy sources and some of it has been quite promising
    but none of them are sufficiently cheap and scalable yet. I hope that at
    least one of those alternatives is ready before it's too late and we've
    run out of affordable oil. But in the meantime, we need to keep finding
    oil to keep us going until fusion or whatever is going to be the Next
    Source of Power is ready.



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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 26 19:24:13 2025
    On Nov 26, 2025 at 7:36:46 AM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-11-25 11:00 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    A great scene from LANDMAN where Billy Bob Thornton schools an
    environmental-activist lawyer after she admiringly approves of a row of wind
    turbines in the middle of an oil patch.

    WOKE LAWYER: They're massive.

    BILLY BOB: Four hundred feet tall.

    WOKE LAWYER: Who owns them?

    BILLY BOB: The oil companies. We use 'em to power the wells. No electricity >> out here. We're off the grid.

    WOKE LAWYER (scoffs): They use clean energy to power oil wells?

    BILLY BOB: They use alternative energy. There's nothing clean about this. >>
    WOKE LAWYER: Please, Mr. Oilman, tell me how the wind is bad for the
    environment.

    BILLY BOB: Do you have any idea how much diesel they have to burn to mix
    enough concrete to pour the foundation for each one of these turbines? Or >> make
    that steel and haul all this shit out here and put it together with a
    450-foot
    crane? You wanna guess how much oil it takes to lubricate that fuckin'
    thing?
    Or winterize it? In its entire 20-year lifespan, it won't offset the carbon >> footprint of making it.

    And don't get me started on solar panels and the lithium in your Tesla
    battery. And never mind the fact that if the whole world decided to go
    electric tomorrow, we don't have the transmission lines to get the
    electricity
    to the cities. It'd take 30 years if we started tomorrow.

    And unfortunately for your grandkids, we have a 120-year petroleum-based
    infrastructure. Our whole lives depend on it. Hell, it's in everything. That
    road we came in on. The wheels on every car ever made, including your
    electric
    car. It's in tennis rackets and lipstick and refrigerators and
    anti-histamines. Pretty much anything plastic. Your cell phone case,
    artificial heart valves. Any kind of clothing that's not made with animal or
    plant fibers. Soap, fuckin' hand lotion, garbage bags, fishing boats. You >> name
    it.

    Every. Fuckin'. Thing.

    And you know what the kicker is? We're gonna run out of it before we find >> its
    replacement.

    WOKE LAWYER: It's the thing that's gonna kill us all, as a species.

    BILLY BOB: No, the thing that's gonna kill us all is running out before we >> find an alternative. And believe me, if Exxon thought them fuckin' turbines >> right there were the future, they'd be putting them all over the goddamn
    place. Gettin' oil out of the ground is the most dangerous job in the world.
    We don't do it because we like it. We do it because we're out of options. >> And
    you're out here trying to find something to blame for the danger besides
    your
    boss. There ain't nobody to blame but the demand that we keep pumpin' it. >>
    That conversation was one of the highlights of Season 1.

    Between this and John Dutton's torching of the woke environmentalists on YELLOWSTONE, I can't figure out how Hollywood keeps letting Taylor Sheridan
    put this anti-Agenda stuff on the air.

    https://youtu.be/uR-Wpa4zCuo?t=753

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAKJ1-OTrYE

    Not because I
    wanted it to be true but because it is. I'd love it if all this
    alternative energy actually made economic sense but it doesn't for the reasons enumerated in Tommy's dialog. I know there's a lot of research
    going on better energy sources and some of it has been quite promising
    but none of them are sufficiently cheap and scalable yet. I hope that at least one of those alternatives is ready before it's too late and we've
    run out of affordable oil. But in the meantime, we need to keep finding
    oil to keep us going until fusion or whatever is going to be the Next
    Source of Power is ready.



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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 26 14:46:37 2025
    On 2025-11-26 2:24 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Nov 26, 2025 at 7:36:46 AM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-11-25 11:00 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    A great scene from LANDMAN where Billy Bob Thornton schools an
    environmental-activist lawyer after she admiringly approves of a row of wind
    turbines in the middle of an oil patch.

    WOKE LAWYER: They're massive.

    BILLY BOB: Four hundred feet tall.

    WOKE LAWYER: Who owns them?

    BILLY BOB: The oil companies. We use 'em to power the wells. No electricity
    out here. We're off the grid.

    WOKE LAWYER (scoffs): They use clean energy to power oil wells?

    BILLY BOB: They use alternative energy. There's nothing clean about this. >>>
    WOKE LAWYER: Please, Mr. Oilman, tell me how the wind is bad for the
    environment.

    BILLY BOB: Do you have any idea how much diesel they have to burn to mix >>> enough concrete to pour the foundation for each one of these turbines? Or >>> make
    that steel and haul all this shit out here and put it together with a
    450-foot
    crane? You wanna guess how much oil it takes to lubricate that fuckin' >>> thing?
    Or winterize it? In its entire 20-year lifespan, it won't offset the carbon
    footprint of making it.

    And don't get me started on solar panels and the lithium in your Tesla >>> battery. And never mind the fact that if the whole world decided to go >>> electric tomorrow, we don't have the transmission lines to get the
    electricity
    to the cities. It'd take 30 years if we started tomorrow.

    And unfortunately for your grandkids, we have a 120-year petroleum-based >>> infrastructure. Our whole lives depend on it. Hell, it's in everything. That
    road we came in on. The wheels on every car ever made, including your
    electric
    car. It's in tennis rackets and lipstick and refrigerators and
    anti-histamines. Pretty much anything plastic. Your cell phone case,
    artificial heart valves. Any kind of clothing that's not made with animal or
    plant fibers. Soap, fuckin' hand lotion, garbage bags, fishing boats. You >>> name
    it.

    Every. Fuckin'. Thing.

    And you know what the kicker is? We're gonna run out of it before we find >>> its
    replacement.

    WOKE LAWYER: It's the thing that's gonna kill us all, as a species.

    BILLY BOB: No, the thing that's gonna kill us all is running out before we
    find an alternative. And believe me, if Exxon thought them fuckin' turbines
    right there were the future, they'd be putting them all over the goddamn >>> place. Gettin' oil out of the ground is the most dangerous job in the world.
    We don't do it because we like it. We do it because we're out of options. >>> And
    you're out here trying to find something to blame for the danger besides >>> your
    boss. There ain't nobody to blame but the demand that we keep pumpin' it. >>>
    That conversation was one of the highlights of Season 1.

    Between this and John Dutton's torching of the woke environmentalists on YELLOWSTONE, I can't figure out how Hollywood keeps letting Taylor Sheridan put this anti-Agenda stuff on the air.

    https://youtu.be/uR-Wpa4zCuo?t=753

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAKJ1-OTrYE

    I think his shows get big ratings and make big $$. That probably
    explains it right there.

    Not because I
    wanted it to be true but because it is. I'd love it if all this
    alternative energy actually made economic sense but it doesn't for the
    reasons enumerated in Tommy's dialog. I know there's a lot of research
    going on better energy sources and some of it has been quite promising
    but none of them are sufficiently cheap and scalable yet. I hope that at
    least one of those alternatives is ready before it's too late and we've
    run out of affordable oil. But in the meantime, we need to keep finding
    oil to keep us going until fusion or whatever is going to be the Next
    Source of Power is ready.




    --
    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 26 20:00:56 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Between this and John Dutton's torching of the woke environmentalists on >YELLOWSTONE, I can't figure out how Hollywood keeps letting Taylor Sheridan >put this anti-Agenda stuff on the air.

    If you torch woke people, doesn't that release massive amounts of carbon
    into the atmosphere? At least make petroleum out of them first.

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  • From moviePig@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 26 16:41:30 2025
    On 11/26/2025 2:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Nov 26, 2025 at 7:36:46 AM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-11-25 11:00 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    A great scene from LANDMAN where Billy Bob Thornton schools an
    environmental-activist lawyer after she admiringly approves of a row of wind
    turbines in the middle of an oil patch.

    WOKE LAWYER: They're massive.

    BILLY BOB: Four hundred feet tall.

    WOKE LAWYER: Who owns them?

    BILLY BOB: The oil companies. We use 'em to power the wells. No electricity
    out here. We're off the grid.

    WOKE LAWYER (scoffs): They use clean energy to power oil wells?

    BILLY BOB: They use alternative energy. There's nothing clean about this. >>>
    WOKE LAWYER: Please, Mr. Oilman, tell me how the wind is bad for the
    environment.

    BILLY BOB: Do you have any idea how much diesel they have to burn to mix >>> enough concrete to pour the foundation for each one of these turbines? Or >>> make
    that steel and haul all this shit out here and put it together with a
    450-foot
    crane? You wanna guess how much oil it takes to lubricate that fuckin' >>> thing?
    Or winterize it? In its entire 20-year lifespan, it won't offset the carbon
    footprint of making it.

    And don't get me started on solar panels and the lithium in your Tesla >>> battery. And never mind the fact that if the whole world decided to go >>> electric tomorrow, we don't have the transmission lines to get the
    electricity
    to the cities. It'd take 30 years if we started tomorrow.

    And unfortunately for your grandkids, we have a 120-year petroleum-based >>> infrastructure. Our whole lives depend on it. Hell, it's in everything. That
    road we came in on. The wheels on every car ever made, including your
    electric
    car. It's in tennis rackets and lipstick and refrigerators and
    anti-histamines. Pretty much anything plastic. Your cell phone case,
    artificial heart valves. Any kind of clothing that's not made with animal or
    plant fibers. Soap, fuckin' hand lotion, garbage bags, fishing boats. You >>> name
    it.

    Every. Fuckin'. Thing.

    And you know what the kicker is? We're gonna run out of it before we find >>> its
    replacement.

    WOKE LAWYER: It's the thing that's gonna kill us all, as a species.

    BILLY BOB: No, the thing that's gonna kill us all is running out before we
    find an alternative. And believe me, if Exxon thought them fuckin' turbines
    right there were the future, they'd be putting them all over the goddamn >>> place. Gettin' oil out of the ground is the most dangerous job in the world.
    We don't do it because we like it. We do it because we're out of options. >>> And
    you're out here trying to find something to blame for the danger besides >>> your
    boss. There ain't nobody to blame but the demand that we keep pumpin' it. >>>
    That conversation was one of the highlights of Season 1.

    Between this and John Dutton's torching of the woke environmentalists on YELLOWSTONE, I can't figure out how Hollywood keeps letting Taylor Sheridan put this anti-Agenda stuff on the air.

    Same way Jimmy Kimmel's there: audience-demand still has some say.


    https://youtu.be/uR-Wpa4zCuo?t=753

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAKJ1-OTrYE

    Not because I
    wanted it to be true but because it is. I'd love it if all this
    alternative energy actually made economic sense but it doesn't for the
    reasons enumerated in Tommy's dialog. I know there's a lot of research
    going on better energy sources and some of it has been quite promising
    but none of them are sufficiently cheap and scalable yet. I hope that at
    least one of those alternatives is ready before it's too late and we've
    run out of affordable oil. But in the meantime, we need to keep finding
    oil to keep us going until fusion or whatever is going to be the Next
    Source of Power is ready.




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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Wed Nov 26 23:11:09 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    A great scene from LANDMAN where Billy Bob Thornton schools an environmental-activist lawyer after she admiringly approves of a row of wind turbines in the middle of an oil patch.

    WOKE LAWYER: They're massive.

    BILLY BOB: Four hundred feet tall.

    WOKE LAWYER: Who owns them?

    BILLY BOB: The oil companies. We use 'em to power the wells. No electricity out here. We're off the grid.

    WOKE LAWYER (scoffs): They use clean energy to power oil wells?

    BILLY BOB: They use alternative energy. There's nothing clean about this.

    WOKE LAWYER: Please, Mr. Oilman, tell me how the wind is bad for the environment.

    BILLY BOB: Do you have any idea how much diesel they have to burn to mix enough concrete to pour the foundation for each one of these turbines? Or make
    that steel and haul all this shit out here and put it together with a 450-foot
    crane? You wanna guess how much oil it takes to lubricate that fuckin' thing? Or winterize it? In its entire 20-year lifespan, it won't offset the carbon footprint of making it.

    And don't get me started on solar panels and the lithium in your Tesla battery. And never mind the fact that if the whole world decided to go electric tomorrow, we don't have the transmission lines to get the electricity
    to the cities. It'd take 30 years if we started tomorrow.


    That?s something I?ve wondered about India?s plan to build dozens of
    thorium reactors all over the country. Where are they going to get the infrastructure to run power to 1 billion people who mostly don?t have
    anything to hook up to electricity in the first place?


    And unfortunately for your grandkids, we have a 120-year petroleum-based infrastructure. Our whole lives depend on it. Hell, it's in everything. That road we came in on. The wheels on every car ever made, including your electric
    car. It's in tennis rackets and lipstick and refrigerators and anti-histamines. Pretty much anything plastic. Your cell phone case, artificial heart valves. Any kind of clothing that's not made with animal or plant fibers. Soap, fuckin' hand lotion, garbage bags, fishing boats. You name
    it.

    Every. Fuckin'. Thing.

    And you know what the kicker is? We're gonna run out of it before we find its replacement.

    WOKE LAWYER: It's the thing that's gonna kill us all, as a species.

    BILLY BOB: No, the thing that's gonna kill us all is running out before we find an alternative. And believe me, if Exxon thought them fuckin' turbines right there were the future, they'd be putting them all over the goddamn place. Gettin' oil out of the ground is the most dangerous job in the world. We don't do it because we like it. We do it because we're out of options. And you're out here trying to find something to blame for the danger besides your boss. There ain't nobody to blame but the demand that we keep pumpin' it.






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