Subject: Re: ATF Backs Down After Denying NFA Applications for Wanting to "Exercise Constitutional Rights"

On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 06:29:33 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:

In simple terms, this is what happens:

1) Fill up the voter rolls with as many names as possible, including illegals, >dead people, and residents who left the state.

2) Legislate for unsolicited ballots to be automatically mailed out to >everyone on the rolls *and* for ballot harvesting to be legal.

3) Pay people (per ballot) to collect, fill out, sign, and send back or dump >these ballots into drop boxes.

While I agree with you, having an opposition group having 100+ people registering to get on the vote is a voter suppression stunt that's
been used in Canada to knock off incumbent candidates (especially
those of a conservative bent - Canadian conservative leader Pierre
Poilevre could tell you about that!)

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Subject: Re: ATF Backs Down After Denying NFA Applications for Wanting to "Exercise Constitutional Rights"

On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 06:29:33 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:

Unsolicited ballots will be automatically sent to every single tenant or >resident registered to that building, going back a decade or longer. So a >100-unit apartment building could receive 5x as many ballots, most of which >litter the mail room floor.

In Canada they make taxation records available to Elections Canada for
voters' list preparation. Each province also maintains their own list.
At our past federal election I gave my name and my daughter's and
asked if there were any others at that address (and of course was
ready to give my wife's name and to whip out the death certificate if
needed.)

In our last provincial election after I had voted I asked the chief
poll clerk how many voters were registered to my address. He said he
wasn't allowed to tell me. I then said "there SHOULD be mine and <my daughter's> name there - are there any others?" then quickly explained
that my wife died in March 2002 and that I wanted to be sure that my
request to remove her from the list had been honored. (Since his
answer was that there were only those two I didn't open my folder
showing my wife's death certificate and was ready to go completely
apeshit if she had been marked as having voted)

But then in my country it's easier to get on than off the voter's
list. There have been abuses in some immigrant rich areas particularly
in Chinese areas where many have not learned English and are brought
in buses to the polls. (In Canada you have to have special
circumstances to get a mail in ballot - for instance my second
daughter who moved to the UK gets one and mails it to the Canadian
High Commission - which is what embassies within the British
Commonwealth are called - in London. When I was there in 2016 there
were signs in the window discouraging visiting Canadians to attempt to
come inside except on official business)

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Subject: Re: ATF Backs Down After Denying NFA Applications for Wanting to "Exercise Constitutional Rights"

On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 07:01:02 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Again, your hypothetical opposes your state's distribution of ballot
blanks which is beyond idiotic. I agree with you here. Having served as
an election judge in many elections, I understand the importance that
ballot blanks must remain under control until handed to a voter to vote,
and that the judge must watch the voter deposit the voted ballot, which
only gets examined for the presence of the judge's initial, into the
ballot box.

Ditto here - and the ONLY time I've seen an alternate procedure used
was in 2020 and 2021 when the ballot box was located just outside the
poll clerk's desk and we were required to fold and insert our ballot
in front of the watching clerk on the other side of the 1/4"
plexiglass screen.

Given the years I doubt I have to explain why they did it that way
right? Particularly since there was a long line of voters 8-10' apart.

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Subject: Re: ATF Backs Down After Denying NFA Applications for Wanting to "Exercise Constitutional Rights"

On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 20:23:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:

Conservatives generally defend voter ID laws by insisting that all voters will >be able to figure out how to get a valid ID, so the law won't disenfranchise >anyone. But the truth is that a certain small percentage of voters actually >*won't* be able to figure it out, which means that a certain percentage will >be de facto disenfranchised. And that is all the *more* reason to put these >laws in place. If you're so dumb, befuddled, and incompetent that you can't >manage to perform such a basic life task, then you are not qualified to vote. >You don't deserve to have a say over the direction of the country. Stay home >and let the competent adults handle it.

Agreed - and in Canada pretty much other federal or provincially
issued ID (for instance drivers' licences which in BC doubles as your
health card) have both photo and your signature on them). Last time I
voted I was pessimistic so also brought my passport along in case I
had any difficulties (I didn't)

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Subject: Re: ATF Backs Down After Denying NFA Applications for Wanting to "Exercise Constitutional Rights"

On Feb 19, 2026 at 9:30:42 PM PST, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 06:29:33 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:

In simple terms, this is what happens:

1) Fill up the voter rolls with as many names as possible, including
illegals,
dead people, and residents who left the state.

2) Legislate for unsolicited ballots to be automatically mailed out to
everyone on the rolls *and* for ballot harvesting to be legal.

3) Pay people (per ballot) to collect, fill out, sign, and send back or dump >> these ballots into drop boxes.

While I agree with you, having an opposition group having 100+ people registering to get on the vote is a voter suppression stunt that's
been used in Canada to knock off incumbent candidates (especially
those of a conservative bent - Canadian conservative leader Pierre
Poilevre could tell you about that!)

https://ibb.co/VYtg3rpn



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Subject: Re: ATF Backs Down After Denying NFA Applications for Wanting to "Exercise Constitutional Rights"

On Feb 19, 2026 at 9:47:31 PM PST, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 20:23:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:

Conservatives generally defend voter ID laws by insisting that all voters
will
be able to figure out how to get a valid ID, so the law won't disenfranchise >> anyone. But the truth is that a certain small percentage of voters actually >> *won't* be able to figure it out, which means that a certain percentage will >> be de facto disenfranchised. And that is all the *more* reason to put these >> laws in place. If you're so dumb, befuddled, and incompetent that you can't >> manage to perform such a basic life task, then you are not qualified to vote.
You don't deserve to have a say over the direction of the country. Stay home >> and let the competent adults handle it.

Agreed - and in Canada pretty much other federal or provincially
issued ID (for instance drivers' licences which in BC doubles as your
health card) have both photo and your signature on them). Last time I
voted I was pessimistic so also brought my passport along in case I
had any difficulties (I didn't)

In order to vote on legislation in Congress, members must use a device like this at their seats:

https://ibb.co/zTNfWKnb

The device requires the member to insert his/her congressional ID card into
the slot before they can push the button to cast their vote.

So basically, 213 Democrats in the House had to use their government-issued ID card in order to vote against voter ID.

No, this is not a Babylon Bee article.



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Subject: Re: ATF Backs Down After Denying NFA Applications for Wanting to "Exercise Constitutional Rights"

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

. . .

In order to vote on legislation in Congress, members must use a device like >this at their seats:

https://ibb.co/zTNfWKnb

The device requires the member to insert his/her congressional ID card into >the slot before they can push the button to cast their vote.

So basically, 213 Democrats in the House had to use their government-issued ID >card in order to vote against voter ID.

No, this is not a Babylon Bee article.

You've a roomful of dishonest people. In my state's legislature, they
have been known to push each other's buttons. I'm glad someone has tried
to thwart the bad behavior.

The voting population as a whole is less dishonest than those they
elect.

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