https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2022939486238445575/vid/avc1/1080x1920/KNP2OE03dKLgWHcD.mp4

NYC Falls: The adhan (call to prayer) now blasts through New York streets five times a day, starting at 5AM ? Zohran Mamdani's Sharia Dawn is here

The conquest you've been warned about is accelerating now. The adhan isn't a "beautiful call to prayer" as the Islamists will claim. It?s a militant declaration: "Allahu Akbar" (Allah is greater than your gods, laws, freedoms), "There is no god but Allah" (all other faiths are false).

Blared five times daily from loudspeakers-- 5AM wake-ups included-- it's
forced submission on non-Muslims, pure civilizational jihad straight from the Muslim Brotherhood playbook.

This is not normal but they?re aggressively normalizing it.

In Astoria, Brooklyn, and Manhattan, residents are horrified. Noise complaints flood in, yet the broadcasts grow louder and more frequent in response. It began under Mayor Adams in 2023 (permit-free Fridays & Ramadan), but Mamdani's regime has supercharged it-- daily calls spreading unchecked in Muslim-heavy areas and now being purposely performed in communities that are heavily Jewish and Christian as an expression of power over the community. There is no need for this practice in the 21st century anyway. First, have you ever met a
Muslim who forgets he needs to pray without being reminded of it by a
10-minute wail from a loudspeaker? Second, in 2026, the rare forgetful Muslim can easily just program a reminder on their phones. There is no rational need to scream over PA systems in this day and age.

This is the same reason huge crowd of Muslim men take over the streets to pray in Western countries, blocking traffic and snarling commutes, despite having built thousands of mosques throughout the West. They don't pray in the streets in their own countries. They only do it in Western countries. It's a power
move over the local populace. It's a way of saying, "We're in charge here now and you can't do anything about it" and using the act of prayer as a shield against any enforcement.

In Islam, there is no reciprocity: Try public prayer, church bells, or hymns
in Mecca: arrested, possibly executed. Actually non-Muslims aren't even *allowed* in Mecca at all. Yet in 9/11-scarred New York City, we submit. This is noise pollution masking conquest-- normalizing Islamic dominance, eroding our culture, testing tolerance until it breaks.

Leftists call it "progress", but it's the internal-external war: parallel societies (women-only cafes, halal zones) + penetration (crescent lightings, Adhan blasts). We either stop it now or there won't be anything left to save
in 50 years.

When Muslims are in the minority, they are very concerned with minority
rights. When they become the majority, there are no minority rights.



--- PyGate Linux v1.5.11
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

On 2026-02-16 2:55 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2022939486238445575/vid/avc1/1080x1920/KNP2OE03dKLgWHcD.mp4

NYC Falls: The adhan (call to prayer) now blasts through New York streets five
times a day, starting at 5AM ? Zohran Mamdani's Sharia Dawn is here

The conquest you've been warned about is accelerating now. The adhan isn't a "beautiful call to prayer" as the Islamists will claim. It?s a militant declaration: "Allahu Akbar" (Allah is greater than your gods, laws, freedoms),
"There is no god but Allah" (all other faiths are false).

Blared five times daily from loudspeakers-- 5AM wake-ups included-- it's forced submission on non-Muslims, pure civilizational jihad straight from the Muslim Brotherhood playbook.

This is not normal but they?re aggressively normalizing it.

In Astoria, Brooklyn, and Manhattan, residents are horrified. Noise complaints
flood in, yet the broadcasts grow louder and more frequent in response. It began under Mayor Adams in 2023 (permit-free Fridays & Ramadan), but Mamdani's
regime has supercharged it-- daily calls spreading unchecked in Muslim-heavy areas and now being purposely performed in communities that are heavily Jewish
and Christian as an expression of power over the community. There is no need for this practice in the 21st century anyway. First, have you ever met a Muslim who forgets he needs to pray without being reminded of it by a 10-minute wail from a loudspeaker? Second, in 2026, the rare forgetful Muslim can easily just program a reminder on their phones. There is no rational need to scream over PA systems in this day and age.

Small nit: isn't it true that at least some of the prayer times vary
from day to day since (some of them?) are based on sunrise and sunset?
In other words, you can't simply memorize 5 exact times and use them to
guide your prayers because the sunrise and sunset varies over the year
and by latitude? I know you lived in Saudi Arabia for a time so I expect you'll know if I'm right or wrong.

Not that this should be a huge issue even if it is true. A colleague who
had just returned from a business trip to Saudi Arabia once gave me a
local English-language daily newspaper and it had the prayer times for
its publication date right there on the front page. Surely any Muslim
could simply look at his local Muslim newspaper and get his prayer
times. Also, the newspaper is getting this information from *somewhere*
so it must be possible to look it up or calculate it from scratch.
Either way, the information should NOT need to be broadcast via
loudspeakers!!

This is the same reason huge crowd of Muslim men take over the streets to pray
in Western countries, blocking traffic and snarling commutes, despite having built thousands of mosques throughout the West. They don't pray in the streets
in their own countries.

I have it on good authority from my supervisor when I was driving a
school bus that one of the challenges that supervisors in Toronto had -
I'm not aware of it happening in our area - was Muslim school bus
drivers stopping their buses to leave the bus and pray in the middle of
their routes. We had a very strict prohibition on leaving our buses
while there were ANY students aboard (presumably, to preclude kids
taking off with the bus or just nudging it into motion by accident) but
this was ignored when the Muslim drivers did it, apparently for fear of
legal action by the drivers for impeding their practice of their
religion. The human rights of Muslims trumped the risk that a kid could
start the bus or even that someone might board the bus while it was
stopped as the driver prayed on the side of the road and kidnap a kid or
even a whole busload of kids.

They only do it in Western countries. It's a power
move over the local populace. It's a way of saying, "We're in charge here now and you can't do anything about it" and using the act of prayer as a shield against any enforcement.

In Islam, there is no reciprocity: Try public prayer, church bells, or hymns in Mecca: arrested, possibly executed. Actually non-Muslims aren't even *allowed* in Mecca at all. Yet in 9/11-scarred New York City, we submit. This is noise pollution masking conquest-- normalizing Islamic dominance, eroding our culture, testing tolerance until it breaks.

Leftists call it "progress", but it's the internal-external war: parallel societies (women-only cafes, halal zones) + penetration (crescent lightings, Adhan blasts). We either stop it now or there won't be anything left to save in 50 years.

50 years? If we can't stop this nonsense NOW, we're ALREADY CONQUERED
and just don't know it yet.

When Muslims are in the minority, they are very concerned with minority rights. When they become the majority, there are no minority rights.

I think it's time for some unfortunate technical failures of the mosque loudspeakers with amplifiers failing and wires cut by mysterious forces followed by police being baffled and not having any idea how it happened.

NO religion should be able to do this and if that means churches can't
ring their bells either, that is fine by me.

--
Rhino

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.11
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

On Feb 16, 2026 at 12:28:57 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

On 2026-02-16 2:55 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2022939486238445575/vid/avc1/1080x1920/KNP2OE03dKLgWHcD.mp4

NYC Falls: The adhan (call to prayer) now blasts through New York streets >> five
times a day, starting at 5AM ? Zohran Mamdani's Sharia Dawn is here

The conquest you've been warned about is accelerating now. The adhan isn't a
"beautiful call to prayer" as the Islamists will claim. It?s a militant
declaration: "Allahu Akbar" (Allah is greater than your gods, laws,
freedoms),
"There is no god but Allah" (all other faiths are false).

Blared five times daily from loudspeakers-- 5AM wake-ups included-- it's
forced submission on non-Muslims, pure civilizational jihad straight from >> the
Muslim Brotherhood playbook.

This is not normal but they?re aggressively normalizing it.

In Astoria, Brooklyn, and Manhattan, residents are horrified. Noise
complaints
flood in, yet the broadcasts grow louder and more frequent in response. It >> began under Mayor Adams in 2023 (permit-free Fridays & Ramadan), but
Mamdani's
regime has supercharged it-- daily calls spreading unchecked in Muslim-heavy
areas and now being purposely performed in communities that are heavily
Jewish
and Christian as an expression of power over the community. There is no need
for this practice in the 21st century anyway. First, have you ever met a
Muslim who forgets he needs to pray without being reminded of it by a
10-minute wail from a loudspeaker? Second, in 2026, the rare forgetful
Muslim
can easily just program a reminder on their phones. There is no rational
need
to scream over PA systems in this day and age.

Small nit: isn't it true that at least some of the prayer times vary
from day to day since (some of them?) are based on sunrise and sunset?
In other words, you can't simply memorize 5 exact times and use them to guide your prayers because the sunrise and sunset varies over the year
and by latitude? I know you lived in Saudi Arabia for a time so I expect you'll know if I'm right or wrong.

There's literally an app for that. It uses GPS to determine your location, the date to determine sunrise and sunset at that location and then tell you when
to pray. It also points you in the right direction.

This is the same reason huge crowds of Muslim men take over the streets to >> pray
in Western countries, blocking traffic and snarling commutes, despite having
built thousands of mosques throughout the West. They don't pray in the
streets
in their own countries.

I have it on good authority from my supervisor when I was driving a
school bus that one of the challenges that supervisors in Toronto had -
I'm not aware of it happening in our area - was Muslim school bus
drivers stopping their buses to leave the bus and pray in the middle of their routes. We had a very strict prohibition on leaving our buses
while there were ANY students aboard (presumably, to preclude kids
taking off with the bus or just nudging it into motion by accident) but
this was ignored when the Muslim drivers did it, apparently for fear of legal action by the drivers for impeding their practice of their
religion. The human rights of Muslims trumped the risk that a kid could start the bus or even that someone might board the bus while it was
stopped as the driver prayed on the side of the road and kidnap a kid or even a whole busload of kids.

Because of course. We're all good little dhimmis, aren't we?

They only do it in Western countries. It's a power
move over the local populace. It's a way of saying, "We're in charge here >> now
and you can't do anything about it" and using the act of prayer as a shield >> against any enforcement.

In Islam, there is no reciprocity: Try public prayer, church bells, or hymns
in Mecca: arrested, possibly executed. Actually non-Muslims aren't even
*allowed* in Mecca at all. Yet in 9/11-scarred New York City, we submit.
This
is noise pollution masking conquest-- normalizing Islamic dominance, eroding
our culture, testing tolerance until it breaks.

Leftists call it "progress", but it's the internal-external war: parallel >> societies (women-only cafes, halal zones) + penetration (crescent lightings,
Adhan blasts). We either stop it now or there won't be anything left to save
in 50 years.

50 years? If we can't stop this nonsense NOW, we're ALREADY CONQUERED
and just don't know it yet.

When Muslims are in the minority, they are very concerned with minority
rights. When they become the majority, there are no minority rights.

I think it's time for some unfortunate technical failures of the mosque loudspeakers with amplifiers failing and wires cut by mysterious forces followed by police being baffled and not having any idea how it happened.

Or, in the alternative, people in the neighborhood start blasting "Who Let the Dogs Out" even louder than their prayer calls to drown it out. Sure, it makes the noise pollution even worse for a time, but eventually they'll give up and if the city tries to stop you, sue the shit out of them for letting one group do it but no one else.

NO religion should be able to do this and if that means churches can't
ring their bells either, that is fine by me.

Yes, that's always their go-to: "But you ring church bells and that's equally intrusive!"

No, no it is not.

Church bells only ring once a week, and then only in the morning, well after sunrise.

This shit goes on every single day, it happens five times a day, lasts much longer than a typical church bell carillon, and often occurs before sunrise while people are still sleeping, and is done at a much higher volume.

But fine. As you say, if it takes banning church bells to rid us of this crap also, then so be it. I'll give up the church bells.



--- PyGate Linux v1.5.11
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

On 2/16/2026 2:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2022939486238445575/vid/avc1/1080x1920/KNP2OE03dKLgWHcD.mp4

NYC Falls: The adhan (call to prayer) now blasts through New York streets five
times a day, starting at 5AM ? Zohran Mamdani's Sharia Dawn is here

The conquest you've been warned about is accelerating now. The adhan isn't a "beautiful call to prayer" as the Islamists will claim. It?s a militant declaration: "Allahu Akbar" (Allah is greater than your gods, laws, freedoms),
"There is no god but Allah" (all other faiths are false).

Blared five times daily from loudspeakers-- 5AM wake-ups included-- it's forced submission on non-Muslims, pure civilizational jihad straight from the Muslim Brotherhood playbook.

This is not normal but they?re aggressively normalizing it.

In Astoria, Brooklyn, and Manhattan, residents are horrified. Noise complaints
flood in, yet the broadcasts grow louder and more frequent in response. It began under Mayor Adams in 2023 (permit-free Fridays & Ramadan), but Mamdani's
regime has supercharged it-- daily calls spreading unchecked in Muslim-heavy areas and now being purposely performed in communities that are heavily Jewish
and Christian as an expression of power over the community. There is no need for this practice in the 21st century anyway. First, have you ever met a Muslim who forgets he needs to pray without being reminded of it by a 10-minute wail from a loudspeaker? Second, in 2026, the rare forgetful Muslim can easily just program a reminder on their phones. There is no rational need to scream over PA systems in this day and age.

This is the same reason huge crowd of Muslim men take over the streets to pray
in Western countries, blocking traffic and snarling commutes, despite having built thousands of mosques throughout the West. They don't pray in the streets
in their own countries. They only do it in Western countries. It's a power move over the local populace. It's a way of saying, "We're in charge here now and you can't do anything about it" and using the act of prayer as a shield against any enforcement.

In Islam, there is no reciprocity: Try public prayer, church bells, or hymns in Mecca: arrested, possibly executed. Actually non-Muslims aren't even *allowed* in Mecca at all. Yet in 9/11-scarred New York City, we submit. This is noise pollution masking conquest-- normalizing Islamic dominance, eroding our culture, testing tolerance until it breaks.

Leftists call it "progress", but it's the internal-external war: parallel societies (women-only cafes, halal zones) + penetration (crescent lightings, Adhan blasts). We either stop it now or there won't be anything left to save in 50 years.

When Muslims are in the minority, they are very concerned with minority rights. When they become the majority, there are no minority rights.

That'd be attempting to administer a religious ecosystem from within the ecosystem ...which I'm not sure can be done with principle.

Islam isn't the only militantly sequestered religion. Afaik, they *all*
are to some degree or another. E.g., consider recent claims that we
are, in fact, a *Christian* nation. Seems we may need to rethink our
"Freedom of worship", if only to save our "freedom of speech".




--- PyGate Linux v1.5.11
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

On 2/16/2026 3:28 PM, Rhino wrote:

On 2026-02-16 2:55 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2022939486238445575/vid/
avc1/1080x1920/KNP2OE03dKLgWHcD.mp4

NYC Falls: The adhan (call to prayer) now blasts through New York
streets five
times a day, starting at 5AM ? Zohran Mamdani's Sharia Dawn is here

The conquest you've been warned about is accelerating now. The adhan
isn't a
"beautiful call to prayer" as the Islamists will claim. It?s a militant
declaration: "Allahu Akbar" (Allah is greater than your gods, laws,
freedoms),
"There is no god but Allah" (all other faiths are false).

Blared five times daily from loudspeakers-- 5AM wake-ups included-- it's
forced submission on non-Muslims, pure civilizational jihad straight
from the
Muslim Brotherhood playbook.

This is not normal but they?re aggressively normalizing it.

In Astoria, Brooklyn, and Manhattan, residents are horrified. Noise
complaints
flood in, yet the broadcasts grow louder and more frequent in
response. It
began under Mayor Adams in 2023 (permit-free Fridays & Ramadan), but
Mamdani's
regime has supercharged it-- daily calls spreading unchecked in
Muslim-heavy
areas and now being purposely performed in communities that are
heavily Jewish
and Christian as an expression of power over the community. There is
no need
for this practice in the 21st century anyway. First, have you ever met a
Muslim who forgets he needs to pray without being reminded of it by a
10-minute wail from a loudspeaker? Second, in 2026, the rare forgetful
Muslim
can easily just program a reminder on their phones. There is no
rational need
to scream over PA systems in this day and age.

Small nit: isn't it true that at least some of the prayer times vary
from day to day since (some of them?) are based on sunrise and sunset?
In other words, you can't simply memorize 5 exact times and use them to guide your prayers because the sunrise and sunset varies over the year
and by latitude? I know you lived in Saudi Arabia for a time so I expect you'll know if I'm right or wrong.

Not that this should be a huge issue even if it is true. A colleague who
had just returned from a business trip to Saudi Arabia once gave me a
local English-language daily newspaper and it had the prayer times for
its publication date right there on the front page. Surely any Muslim
could simply look at his local Muslim newspaper and get his prayer
times. Also, the newspaper is getting this information from *somewhere*
so it must be possible to look it up or calculate it from scratch.
Either way, the information should NOT need to be broadcast via loudspeakers!!

This is the same reason huge crowd of Muslim men take over the streets
to pray
in Western countries, blocking traffic and snarling commutes, despite
having
built thousands of mosques throughout the West. They don't pray in the
streets
in their own countries.

I have it on good authority from my supervisor when I was driving a
school bus that one of the challenges that supervisors in Toronto had -
I'm not aware of it happening in our area - was Muslim school bus
drivers stopping their buses to leave the bus and pray in the middle of their routes. We had a very strict prohibition on leaving our buses
while there were ANY students aboard (presumably, to preclude kids
taking off with the bus or just nudging it into motion by accident) but
this was ignored when the Muslim drivers did it, apparently for fear of legal action by the drivers for impeding their practice of their
religion. The human rights of Muslims trumped the risk that a kid could start the bus or even that someone might board the bus while it was
stopped as the driver prayed on the side of the road and kidnap a kid or even a whole busload of kids.

They only do it in Western countries. It's a power
move over the local populace. It's a way of saying, "We're in charge
here now
and you can't do anything about it" and using the act of prayer as a
shield
against any enforcement.

In Islam, there is no reciprocity: Try public prayer, church bells, or
hymns
in Mecca: arrested, possibly executed. Actually non-Muslims aren't even
*allowed* in Mecca at all. Yet in 9/11-scarred New York City, we
submit. This
is noise pollution masking conquest-- normalizing Islamic dominance,
eroding
our culture, testing tolerance until it breaks.

Leftists call it "progress", but it's the internal-external war: parallel
societies (women-only cafes, halal zones) + penetration (crescent
lightings,
Adhan blasts). We either stop it now or there won't be anything left
to save
in 50 years.

50 years? If we can't stop this nonsense NOW, we're ALREADY CONQUERED
and just don't know it yet.

When Muslims are in the minority, they are very concerned with minority
rights. When they become the majority, there are no minority rights.

I think it's time for some unfortunate technical failures of the mosque loudspeakers with amplifiers failing and wires cut by mysterious forces followed by police being baffled and not having any idea how it happened.

NO religion should be able to do this and if that means churches can't
ring their bells either, that is fine by me.

But it won't be fine with officials elected by constituencies for whom
it's also not fine. Sadly, the West is far from secular rationality.



--- PyGate Linux v1.5.11
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

On 2026-02-16 3:43 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

On Feb 16, 2026 at 12:28:57 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

On 2026-02-16 2:55 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2022939486238445575/vid/avc1/1080x1920/KNP2OE03dKLgWHcD.mp4

NYC Falls: The adhan (call to prayer) now blasts through New York streets >>> five
times a day, starting at 5AM ? Zohran Mamdani's Sharia Dawn is here

The conquest you've been warned about is accelerating now. The adhan isn't a
"beautiful call to prayer" as the Islamists will claim. It?s a militant >>> declaration: "Allahu Akbar" (Allah is greater than your gods, laws,
freedoms),
"There is no god but Allah" (all other faiths are false).

Blared five times daily from loudspeakers-- 5AM wake-ups included-- it's >>> forced submission on non-Muslims, pure civilizational jihad straight from >>> the
Muslim Brotherhood playbook.

This is not normal but they?re aggressively normalizing it.

In Astoria, Brooklyn, and Manhattan, residents are horrified. Noise
complaints
flood in, yet the broadcasts grow louder and more frequent in response. It
began under Mayor Adams in 2023 (permit-free Fridays & Ramadan), but
Mamdani's
regime has supercharged it-- daily calls spreading unchecked in Muslim-heavy
areas and now being purposely performed in communities that are heavily >>> Jewish
and Christian as an expression of power over the community. There is no need
for this practice in the 21st century anyway. First, have you ever met a >>> Muslim who forgets he needs to pray without being reminded of it by a
10-minute wail from a loudspeaker? Second, in 2026, the rare forgetful >>> Muslim
can easily just program a reminder on their phones. There is no rational >>> need
to scream over PA systems in this day and age.

Small nit: isn't it true that at least some of the prayer times vary
from day to day since (some of them?) are based on sunrise and sunset?
In other words, you can't simply memorize 5 exact times and use them to
guide your prayers because the sunrise and sunset varies over the year
and by latitude? I know you lived in Saudi Arabia for a time so I expect
you'll know if I'm right or wrong.

There's literally an app for that. It uses GPS to determine your location, the
date to determine sunrise and sunset at that location and then tell you when to pray. It also points you in the right direction.

There goes that excuse then. Mind you, I'm sure they'll insist it
doesn't matter and claim they absolutely HAVE to do the call to prayer
over loudspeakers because:
a) it's tradition and they must be allowed to have their traditions
otherwise we're being Islamaphobic
b) there are destitute Muslims somewhere that don't have a smart phone
so they've got to be able to remind them about the prayers.

This is the same reason huge crowds of Muslim men take over the streets to
pray
in Western countries, blocking traffic and snarling commutes, despite having
built thousands of mosques throughout the West. They don't pray in the >>> streets
in their own countries.

I have it on good authority from my supervisor when I was driving a
school bus that one of the challenges that supervisors in Toronto had -
I'm not aware of it happening in our area - was Muslim school bus
drivers stopping their buses to leave the bus and pray in the middle of
their routes. We had a very strict prohibition on leaving our buses
while there were ANY students aboard (presumably, to preclude kids
taking off with the bus or just nudging it into motion by accident) but
this was ignored when the Muslim drivers did it, apparently for fear of
legal action by the drivers for impeding their practice of their
religion. The human rights of Muslims trumped the risk that a kid could
start the bus or even that someone might board the bus while it was
stopped as the driver prayed on the side of the road and kidnap a kid or
even a whole busload of kids.

Because of course. We're all good little dhimmis, aren't we?

We sure are. And we all know lawyers aren't cheap so who's going to
cough up the big bucks to oppose the special demands of their "special" employees and risk getting cancelled/sued for their trouble?

They only do it in Western countries. It's a power
move over the local populace. It's a way of saying, "We're in charge here >>> now
and you can't do anything about it" and using the act of prayer as a shield
against any enforcement.

In Islam, there is no reciprocity: Try public prayer, church bells, or hymns
in Mecca: arrested, possibly executed. Actually non-Muslims aren't even >>> *allowed* in Mecca at all. Yet in 9/11-scarred New York City, we submit. >>> This
is noise pollution masking conquest-- normalizing Islamic dominance, eroding
our culture, testing tolerance until it breaks.

Leftists call it "progress", but it's the internal-external war: parallel >>> societies (women-only cafes, halal zones) + penetration (crescent lightings,
Adhan blasts). We either stop it now or there won't be anything left to save
in 50 years.

50 years? If we can't stop this nonsense NOW, we're ALREADY CONQUERED
and just don't know it yet.

When Muslims are in the minority, they are very concerned with minority >>> rights. When they become the majority, there are no minority rights.

I think it's time for some unfortunate technical failures of the mosque
loudspeakers with amplifiers failing and wires cut by mysterious forces
followed by police being baffled and not having any idea how it happened.

Or, in the alternative, people in the neighborhood start blasting "Who Let the
Dogs Out" even louder than their prayer calls to drown it out. Sure, it makes the noise pollution even worse for a time, but eventually they'll give up and if the city tries to stop you, sue the shit out of them for letting one group do it but no one else.

An EXCELLENT choice for the counterpart to the Muslim call given their loathing of dogs!

It's also a cool strategy that might just work. Many years ago, back in residence, during Oktoberfest (which is a big deal in neighbouring
Kitchener and goes on for two weeks), one of the girls on our floor had
some friends come down from her home town and they were pretty rowdy. (I
think they were all male; at least I don't remember any females.) They
stayed in one of our common rooms in sleeping bags and they'd come in
after last call when everyone else was deep asleep and make a ruckus
that woke the rest of us up. After a few nights of this, we were getting
a little tired of that and hatched a revenge. We stayed up (but hiding
in someone's room so the visitors would think we were in bed) and after
THEY had been asleep for an hour, the biggest of us hauled a railway tie
up from the parking lot and braced it against the door of the common
room where they were staying where they could NOT have any chance of
moving it, effectively locking them in. (There was only that one door
and we were on the third floor so there was no chance they were sneaking
out via the window.) Then, at 2:30 AM, we moved large and powerful
speakers against the door and a wall that was common with the common
room and gave them the cannons from the 1812 Overture at a very high
volume. At 3:00 AM, we gave them the alarm clocks from Dark Side of the
Moon. A half hour after that, we gave them something else - I forget
what but it was equally noticeable - and then just let them simmer. They
never gave us another minutes trouble for the rest of the visit :-)

NO religion should be able to do this and if that means churches can't
ring their bells either, that is fine by me.

Yes, that's always their go-to: "But you ring church bells and that's equally intrusive!"

No, no it is not.

Church bells only ring once a week, and then only in the morning, well after sunrise.

I can't remember the last time I heard church bells in this country.
They all seem to have stopped decades back. (There *was* a church near
me in London Ontario that rang a carillon every Sunday morning, probably
at 10 AM or even 11, but that was in the early 80s. I don't think I've
heard a church bell since then and I live a three minute walk from a
Lutheran church.)

This shit goes on every single day, it happens five times a day, lasts much longer than a typical church bell carillon, and often occurs before sunrise while people are still sleeping, and is done at a much higher volume.

And, despite Obama's claim that it's the most beautiful sound on earth,
it sounds to me like a cat in a sack being beaten.

But fine. As you say, if it takes banning church bells to rid us of this crap also, then so be it. I'll give up the church bells.

I am not remotely bothered by church bells despite my lack of religious sentiments but I think there is some merit to the argument that if
Christians can ring bells, then Muslims should be able to make noises in
line with their faith.

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In <10n078f$1450f$4@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:

[snip]

There goes that excuse then. Mind you, I'm sure they'll insist it
doesn't matter and claim they absolutely HAVE to do the call to prayer
over loudspeakers because:
a) it's tradition and they must be allowed to have their traditions >otherwise we're being Islamaphobic
b) there are destitute Muslims somewhere that don't have a smart phone
so they've got to be able to remind them about the prayers.

Electric loudspeakers in the 7th century?

At least in orthodox (the more religious) segments
of Judaism, modern accrutements such as public
address systems are frowned upon.

This is the same reason huge crowds of Muslim men take over the streets to
pray
in Western countries, blocking traffic and snarling commutes, despite having
built thousands of mosques throughout the West. They don't pray in the >>>> streets
in their own countries.

I have it on good authority from my supervisor when I was driving a
school bus that one of the challenges that supervisors in Toronto had -
I'm not aware of it happening in our area - was Muslim school bus
drivers stopping their buses to leave the bus and pray in the middle of
their routes. We had a very strict prohibition on leaving our buses
while there were ANY students aboard (presumably, to preclude kids
taking off with the bus or just nudging it into motion by accident) but
this was ignored when the Muslim drivers did it, apparently for fear of
legal action by the drivers for impeding their practice of their
religion. The human rights of Muslims trumped the risk that a kid could
start the bus or even that someone might board the bus while it was
stopped as the driver prayed on the side of the road and kidnap a kid or >>> even a whole busload of kids.

Because of course. We're all good little dhimmis, aren't we?

We sure are. And we all know lawyers aren't cheap so who's going to
cough up the big bucks to oppose the special demands of their "special" >employees and risk getting cancelled/sued for their trouble?

They only do it in Western countries. It's a power
move over the local populace. It's a way of saying, "We're in charge here
now
and you can't do anything about it" and using the act of prayer as a shield
against any enforcement.

In Islam, there is no reciprocity: Try public prayer, church bells, or hymns
in Mecca: arrested, possibly executed. Actually non-Muslims aren't even >>>> *allowed* in Mecca at all. Yet in 9/11-scarred New York City, we submit. >>>> This
is noise pollution masking conquest-- normalizing Islamic dominance, eroding
our culture, testing tolerance until it breaks.

Leftists call it "progress", but it's the internal-external war: parallel
societies (women-only cafes, halal zones) + penetration (crescent lightings,
Adhan blasts). We either stop it now or there won't be anything left to save
in 50 years.

50 years? If we can't stop this nonsense NOW, we're ALREADY CONQUERED
and just don't know it yet.

When Muslims are in the minority, they are very concerned with minority >>>> rights. When they become the majority, there are no minority rights. >>>>

I think it's time for some unfortunate technical failures of the mosque
loudspeakers with amplifiers failing and wires cut by mysterious forces
followed by police being baffled and not having any idea how it happened. >>

Or, in the alternative, people in the neighborhood start blasting "Who Let the
Dogs Out" even louder than their prayer calls to drown it out. Sure, it makes
the noise pollution even worse for a time, but eventually they'll give up and
if the city tries to stop you, sue the shit out of them for letting one group
do it but no one else.

An EXCELLENT choice for the counterpart to the Muslim call given their >loathing of dogs!

It's also a cool strategy that might just work. Many years ago, back in >residence, during Oktoberfest (which is a big deal in neighbouring
Kitchener and goes on for two weeks), one of the girls on our floor had
some friends come down from her home town and they were pretty rowdy. (I >think they were all male; at least I don't remember any females.) They >stayed in one of our common rooms in sleeping bags and they'd come in
after last call when everyone else was deep asleep and make a ruckus
that woke the rest of us up. After a few nights of this, we were getting
a little tired of that and hatched a revenge. We stayed up (but hiding
in someone's room so the visitors would think we were in bed) and after
THEY had been asleep for an hour, the biggest of us hauled a railway tie
up from the parking lot and braced it against the door of the common
room where they were staying where they could NOT have any chance of
moving it, effectively locking them in. (There was only that one door
and we were on the third floor so there was no chance they were sneaking
out via the window.) Then, at 2:30 AM, we moved large and powerful
speakers against the door and a wall that was common with the common
room and gave them the cannons from the 1812 Overture at a very high
volume. At 3:00 AM, we gave them the alarm clocks from Dark Side of the >Moon. A half hour after that, we gave them something else - I forget
what but it was equally noticeable - and then just let them simmer. They >never gave us another minutes trouble for the rest of the visit :-)

NO religion should be able to do this and if that means churches can't
ring their bells either, that is fine by me.

Yes, that's always their go-to: "But you ring church bells and that's equally
intrusive!"

No, no it is not.

Church bells only ring once a week, and then only in the morning, well after >> sunrise.

I can't remember the last time I heard church bells in this country.
They all seem to have stopped decades back. (There *was* a church near
me in London Ontario that rang a carillon every Sunday morning, probably
at 10 AM or even 11, but that was in the early 80s. I don't think I've
heard a church bell since then and I live a three minute walk from a >Lutheran church.)

This shit goes on every single day, it happens five times a day, lasts much >> longer than a typical church bell carillon, and often occurs before sunrise >> while people are still sleeping, and is done at a much higher volume.

And, despite Obama's claim that it's the most beautiful sound on earth,
it sounds to me like a cat in a sack being beaten.

But fine. As you say, if it takes banning church bells to rid us of this crap
also, then so be it. I'll give up the church bells.

I am not remotely bothered by church bells despite my lack of religious >sentiments but I think there is some merit to the argument that if >Christians can ring bells, then Muslims should be able to make noises in >line with their faith.

--
Rhino

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On 2026-02-16 6:14 p.m., danny burstein wrote:

In <10n078f$1450f$4@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:

[snip]

There goes that excuse then. Mind you, I'm sure they'll insist it
doesn't matter and claim they absolutely HAVE to do the call to prayer
over loudspeakers because:
a) it's tradition and they must be allowed to have their traditions
otherwise we're being Islamaphobic
b) there are destitute Muslims somewhere that don't have a smart phone
so they've got to be able to remind them about the prayers.

Electric loudspeakers in the 7th century?

Good point but I'm sure they'll just redefine tradition to mean
"something we've been doing for 20 years in Saudi Arabia" rather than "something that has been intrinsic to our faith from the earliest days".

At least in orthodox (the more religious) segments
of Judaism, modern accrutements such as public
address systems are frowned upon.

I've never been to a country with a majority religion other than
Christianity (which is normally so secular you can barely detect it) or atheist (East Germany and the former Yugoslavia) so I don't know what
the Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus, Zoroastrians do but I'll bet that what
they do is a LOT quieter than Islam.

One possible exception is the Hindu festival of Holi, the festival of
colour, where everyone splatters everyone with coloured water and
powder. I've seen it portrayed in a British series called Good Karma
Hospital and it's a big (and noisy) street festival where everyone
throws coloured powder and water on each other so that they end up
covered with hundreds of small patches of every conceivable colour all
over them. It was portrayed as a very joyous event that everyone looks
forward to. (I'm assuming the colours are easily washed off.)

This short video shows what it looks like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek3coC3ej2U [3 minutes]

This is the same reason huge crowds of Muslim men take over the streets to
pray
in Western countries, blocking traffic and snarling commutes, despite having
built thousands of mosques throughout the West. They don't pray in the >>>>> streets
in their own countries.

I have it on good authority from my supervisor when I was driving a
school bus that one of the challenges that supervisors in Toronto had - >>>> I'm not aware of it happening in our area - was Muslim school bus
drivers stopping their buses to leave the bus and pray in the middle of >>>> their routes. We had a very strict prohibition on leaving our buses
while there were ANY students aboard (presumably, to preclude kids
taking off with the bus or just nudging it into motion by accident) but >>>> this was ignored when the Muslim drivers did it, apparently for fear of >>>> legal action by the drivers for impeding their practice of their
religion. The human rights of Muslims trumped the risk that a kid could >>>> start the bus or even that someone might board the bus while it was
stopped as the driver prayed on the side of the road and kidnap a kid or >>>> even a whole busload of kids.

Because of course. We're all good little dhimmis, aren't we?

We sure are. And we all know lawyers aren't cheap so who's going to
cough up the big bucks to oppose the special demands of their "special"
employees and risk getting cancelled/sued for their trouble?

They only do it in Western countries. It's a power
move over the local populace. It's a way of saying, "We're in charge here
now
and you can't do anything about it" and using the act of prayer as a shield
against any enforcement.

In Islam, there is no reciprocity: Try public prayer, church bells, or hymns
in Mecca: arrested, possibly executed. Actually non-Muslims aren't even
*allowed* in Mecca at all. Yet in 9/11-scarred New York City, we submit.
This
is noise pollution masking conquest-- normalizing Islamic dominance, eroding
our culture, testing tolerance until it breaks.

Leftists call it "progress", but it's the internal-external war: parallel
societies (women-only cafes, halal zones) + penetration (crescent lightings,
Adhan blasts). We either stop it now or there won't be anything left to save
in 50 years.

50 years? If we can't stop this nonsense NOW, we're ALREADY CONQUERED
and just don't know it yet.

When Muslims are in the minority, they are very concerned with minority
rights. When they become the majority, there are no minority rights. >>>>>

I think it's time for some unfortunate technical failures of the mosque >>>> loudspeakers with amplifiers failing and wires cut by mysterious forces >>>> followed by police being baffled and not having any idea how it happened. >>>

Or, in the alternative, people in the neighborhood start blasting "Who Let the
Dogs Out" even louder than their prayer calls to drown it out. Sure, it makes
the noise pollution even worse for a time, but eventually they'll give up and
if the city tries to stop you, sue the shit out of them for letting one group
do it but no one else.

An EXCELLENT choice for the counterpart to the Muslim call given their
loathing of dogs!

It's also a cool strategy that might just work. Many years ago, back in
residence, during Oktoberfest (which is a big deal in neighbouring
Kitchener and goes on for two weeks), one of the girls on our floor had
some friends come down from her home town and they were pretty rowdy. (I
think they were all male; at least I don't remember any females.) They
stayed in one of our common rooms in sleeping bags and they'd come in
after last call when everyone else was deep asleep and make a ruckus
that woke the rest of us up. After a few nights of this, we were getting
a little tired of that and hatched a revenge. We stayed up (but hiding
in someone's room so the visitors would think we were in bed) and after
THEY had been asleep for an hour, the biggest of us hauled a railway tie
up from the parking lot and braced it against the door of the common
room where they were staying where they could NOT have any chance of
moving it, effectively locking them in. (There was only that one door
and we were on the third floor so there was no chance they were sneaking
out via the window.) Then, at 2:30 AM, we moved large and powerful
speakers against the door and a wall that was common with the common
room and gave them the cannons from the 1812 Overture at a very high
volume. At 3:00 AM, we gave them the alarm clocks from Dark Side of the
Moon. A half hour after that, we gave them something else - I forget
what but it was equally noticeable - and then just let them simmer. They
never gave us another minutes trouble for the rest of the visit :-)

NO religion should be able to do this and if that means churches can't >>>> ring their bells either, that is fine by me.

Yes, that's always their go-to: "But you ring church bells and that's equally
intrusive!"

No, no it is not.

Church bells only ring once a week, and then only in the morning, well after
sunrise.

I can't remember the last time I heard church bells in this country.
They all seem to have stopped decades back. (There *was* a church near
me in London Ontario that rang a carillon every Sunday morning, probably
at 10 AM or even 11, but that was in the early 80s. I don't think I've
heard a church bell since then and I live a three minute walk from a
Lutheran church.)

This shit goes on every single day, it happens five times a day, lasts much >>> longer than a typical church bell carillon, and often occurs before sunrise >>> while people are still sleeping, and is done at a much higher volume.

And, despite Obama's claim that it's the most beautiful sound on earth,
it sounds to me like a cat in a sack being beaten.

But fine. As you say, if it takes banning church bells to rid us of this crap
also, then so be it. I'll give up the church bells.

I am not remotely bothered by church bells despite my lack of religious
sentiments but I think there is some merit to the argument that if
Christians can ring bells, then Muslims should be able to make noises in
line with their faith.

--
Rhino

--
Rhino

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 19:55:06 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:

In Islam, there is no reciprocity: Try public prayer, church bells, or hymns >in Mecca: arrested, possibly executed. Actually non-Muslims aren't even >*allowed* in Mecca at all. Yet in 9/11-scarred New York City, we submit. This >is noise pollution masking conquest-- normalizing Islamic dominance, eroding >our culture, testing tolerance until it breaks.

Yup - I've stayed in hotels where they had brass circles about 4" in
diameter with an arrow pointing to Mecca. Once I figured out what it
was it didn't bother me and nobody woke me in any kind of 'call to
prayer'. (And this was in a hotel owned by a Catholic order in Hong
Kong)

That's a very far cry from the incident in Quebec City where the
cathedral was encircled by those "praying" (in this context I'd argue
"preying" was a better choice of words) Muslims preventing access to
the cathedral by anybody including at times of Mass. (And I am neither
a Muslim nor a Catholic). In every way but in the courtroom it was a
siege. For there was zero accomodation for anybody trying to enter the Cathedral.

THAT's why the government of Quebec is coming down so hard - and I
think the British government has been totally gutless in failing to
prosecute those who using search lights beamed their messages onto the
side of Big Ben and the Houses of Parliament.

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 15:28:57 -0500, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

I think it's time for some unfortunate technical failures of the mosque >loudspeakers with amplifiers failing and wires cut by mysterious forces >followed by police being baffled and not having any idea how it happened.

NO religion should be able to do this and if that means churches can't
ring their bells either, that is fine by me.

There's a mosque in my town - it used to be an Anglican church before
the bishop closed it, deconsecrated it and sold building and property
to a Muslim group - it is located about 3 blocks from my store's
former location and is particularly outrageous to me as it was where
my Scout group met back in the day and where I lost a tooth (later
crowned) for 'winning' a game of "British Bulldog" - but the old
church hall is now an interior portion of the mosque. And while they
do issue a bulletin to their members with the meeting times, they
DON'T broadcast it to the neighborhood.

On the other hand about 2 miles away there's a synagogue but I believe
that was forested land before they bought the land.

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 17:55:11 -0500, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

There goes that excuse then. Mind you, I'm sure they'll insist it
doesn't matter and claim they absolutely HAVE to do the call to prayer
over loudspeakers because:
a) it's tradition and they must be allowed to have their traditions >otherwise we're being Islamaphobic
b) there are destitute Muslims somewhere that don't have a smart phone
so they've got to be able to remind them about the prayers.

Most churches manage point b by putting the times in the previous
week's church bulletin and either local newspaper ads or websites.
Most churches located on a main street also have signs giving this
information.

You are of course free to drive right by or stop and take notes.
During the peak of summer they will open their windows and the
neighbourhood hears their singing on Sunday mornings but that has more
to do with the temperature - it's not as if they do this in January!

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 17:55:11 -0500, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

I can't remember the last time I heard church bells in this country.
They all seem to have stopped decades back. (There *was* a church near
me in London Ontario that rang a carillon every Sunday morning, probably
at 10 AM or even 11, but that was in the early 80s. I don't think I've
heard a church bell since then and I live a three minute walk from a >Lutheran church.)

There are several churches in our area which I thought had
decommissioned their bells until last summer when they were rung
several times at the end of weddings.

I am not aware that these congregations routinely use them on Sunday
mornings.

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 15:49:23 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

When Muslims are in the minority, they are very concerned with minority
rights. When they become the majority, there are no minority rights.

That'd be attempting to administer a religious ecosystem from within the >ecosystem ...which I'm not sure can be done with principle.

Islam isn't the only militantly sequestered religion. Afaik, they *all*
are to some degree or another. E.g., consider recent claims that we
are, in fact, a *Christian* nation. Seems we may need to rethink our >"Freedom of worship", if only to save our "freedom of speech".

The United States and Canada don't have official faiths though many of
each countries' citizens do. The UK on the other hand DOES have a
state religion though there are both churches and cathedrals of other
faiths.

(I remember from our trip to London in 2016 telling my wife that "your
mother is a convinced Roman Catholic you know that and so do I - are
you seriously telling me she would prefer a gift from an Anglican
cathedral (St Pauls) over one from a Catholic catheral? You're kidding
me right? Come on - the Catholic cathedral is six blocks away, it's a
beautiful summer day so let's go!" and without further ado strode off
leaving her to catch up to me.

The land for the London Catholic cathedral - Westminster Cathedral -
was given to them by Queen Victoria in the 1860s or 70s - though she
didn't financially contribute to the construction.

(Afterwards milady thanked me but not before the visit...)

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