• Accepting terms and conditions to read a Web article

    From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Wed Mar 4 20:37:34 2026
    When I read articles on the Web, I do not look at the Web page as
    intended. I've long used the NoScript Add On to Firefox, which allows me
    to pick and choose what javascript to allow by domain. Can't just read
    the Web. No, it has to be created on the fly and then served from
    multiple hosts, with text created on the fly as we no long just have
    text pages, and images served from separate hosts.

    I wanted to read an article cited from Bloomberg. There were horizontal
    lines indicating something was missing, which I guessed was a graph.
    Trying to enable minimal javascript, I toggled permission for one on. A
    popup, putting the page into background and blurred, tried to force me
    to accept updated terms and conditions, for mandatory arbitration and
    not joining a class action and to stop desparaging Michael Bloomberg's
    meddling with liberty when he was mayor.

    You know, I've been reading since age 2. Picking up my first coloring
    book, I was never ever asked to accept terms and conditions.

    I really wasn't expecting to be injured by the Web page during reading
    and this is just to trick me into not suing Michael Bloomberg for
    something unrelated.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-03/mapping-the-economic-toll-of-downtown-freeways-in-us-cities
    and the toggle is bwbx.io if you use NoScript

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  • From shawn@3:633/10 to All on Wed Mar 4 15:57:27 2026
    On Wed, 4 Mar 2026 20:37:34 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    When I read articles on the Web, I do not look at the Web page as
    intended. I've long used the NoScript Add On to Firefox, which allows me
    to pick and choose what javascript to allow by domain. Can't just read
    the Web. No, it has to be created on the fly and then served from
    multiple hosts, with text created on the fly as we no long just have
    text pages, and images served from separate hosts.

    I do the same.

    I wanted to read an article cited from Bloomberg. There were horizontal
    lines indicating something was missing, which I guessed was a graph.
    Trying to enable minimal javascript, I toggled permission for one on. A >popup, putting the page into background and blurred, tried to force me
    to accept updated terms and conditions, for mandatory arbitration and
    not joining a class action and to stop desparaging Michael Bloomberg's >meddling with liberty when he was mayor.

    You know, I've been reading since age 2. Picking up my first coloring
    book, I was never ever asked to accept terms and conditions.

    I really wasn't expecting to be injured by the Web page during reading
    and this is just to trick me into not suing Michael Bloomberg for
    something unrelated.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-03/mapping-the-economic-toll-of-downtown-freeways-in-us-cities
    and the toggle is bwbx.io if you use NoScript

    Bloomberg has long been on my crap list after what they did with
    GamersNexus. GN comes out with a great video on how GPUs are being
    smuggled into China and includes a few seconds of a clip of a speech
    that was shown on Bloomberg( I think it was from Trump). So it clearly
    falls into fair use but Bloomberg brings a DMCA claim again GN so for
    the next month the video is unavailable and they get no income from
    the video while the challenge process is worked thru.

    Then Bloomberg comes out with their own video on the subject the next
    week. One that barely touches the subject and clearly doesn't go into
    depth the way GN did. So they improperly but likely knowingly got GN's
    video blocked on Youtube for a month so that Bloomberg could garner
    the revenue for their lackluster video on the same subject. That seems
    to have been their thinking.

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  • From super70s@3:633/10 to All on Wed Mar 4 21:05:36 2026
    On 2026-03-04 20:57:27 +0000, shawn said:

    On Wed, 4 Mar 2026 20:37:34 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    When I read articles on the Web, I do not look at the Web page as
    intended. I've long used the NoScript Add On to Firefox, which allows me
    to pick and choose what javascript to allow by domain. Can't just read
    the Web. No, it has to be created on the fly and then served from
    multiple hosts, with text created on the fly as we no long just have
    text pages, and images served from separate hosts.

    I do the same.

    I wanted to read an article cited from Bloomberg. There were horizontal
    lines indicating something was missing, which I guessed was a graph.
    Trying to enable minimal javascript, I toggled permission for one on. A
    popup, putting the page into background and blurred, tried to force me
    to accept updated terms and conditions, for mandatory arbitration and
    not joining a class action and to stop desparaging Michael Bloomberg's
    meddling with liberty when he was mayor.

    You know, I've been reading since age 2. Picking up my first coloring
    book, I was never ever asked to accept terms and conditions.

    I really wasn't expecting to be injured by the Web page during reading
    and this is just to trick me into not suing Michael Bloomberg for
    something unrelated.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-03/mapping-the-economic-toll-of-downtown-freeways-in-us-cities

    and the toggle is bwbx.io if you use NoScript

    Bloomberg has long been on my crap list after what they did with
    GamersNexus. GN comes out with a great video on how GPUs are being
    smuggled into China and includes a few seconds of a clip of a speech
    that was shown on Bloomberg( I think it was from Trump). So it clearly
    falls into fair use but Bloomberg brings a DMCA claim again GN so for
    the next month the video is unavailable and they get no income from
    the video while the challenge process is worked thru.

    Then Bloomberg comes out with their own video on the subject the next
    week. One that barely touches the subject and clearly doesn't go into
    depth the way GN did. So they improperly but likely knowingly got GN's
    video blocked on Youtube for a month so that Bloomberg could garner
    the revenue for their lackluster video on the same subject. That seems
    to have been their thinking.

    I don't get what his problem is, I'm a Firefox user myself and if it's
    ads he could just use the archive.today site and everything shows up
    clean even the graphs.

    https://archive.fo/MtqOd

    I sure wouldn't go to the hassle of selective j/s for every site I visit.


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Thu Mar 5 03:31:14 2026
    super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-03-04 20:57:27 +0000, shawn said:
    On Wed, 4 Mar 2026 20:37:34 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

    When I read articles on the Web, I do not look at the Web page as >>>intended. I've long used the NoScript Add On to Firefox, which allows me >>>to pick and choose what javascript to allow by domain. Can't just read >>>the Web. No, it has to be created on the fly and then served from >>>multiple hosts, with text created on the fly as we no long just have
    text pages, and images served from separate hosts.

    I do the same.

    I wanted to read an article cited from Bloomberg. There were horizontal >>>lines indicating something was missing, which I guessed was a graph. >>>Trying to enable minimal javascript, I toggled permission for one on. A >>>popup, putting the page into background and blurred, tried to force me
    to accept updated terms and conditions, for mandatory arbitration and
    not joining a class action and to stop desparaging Michael Bloomberg's >>>meddling with liberty when he was mayor.

    You know, I've been reading since age 2. Picking up my first coloring >>>book, I was never ever asked to accept terms and conditions.

    I really wasn't expecting to be injured by the Web page during reading >>>and this is just to trick me into not suing Michael Bloomberg for >>>something unrelated.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-03/mapping-the-economic-toll-of-downtown-freeways-in-us-cities

    and the toggle is bwbx.io if you use NoScript

    Bloomberg has long been on my crap list after what they did with >>GamersNexus. GN comes out with a great video on how GPUs are being
    smuggled into China and includes a few seconds of a clip of a speech
    that was shown on Bloomberg( I think it was from Trump). So it clearly >>falls into fair use but Bloomberg brings a DMCA claim again GN so for
    the next month the video is unavailable and they get no income from
    the video while the challenge process is worked thru.

    Then Bloomberg comes out with their own video on the subject the next
    week. One that barely touches the subject and clearly doesn't go into
    depth the way GN did. So they improperly but likely knowingly got GN's >>video blocked on Youtube for a month so that Bloomberg could garner
    the revenue for their lackluster video on the same subject. That seems
    to have been their thinking.

    I don't get what his problem is,

    I just want to read the article served by the Web without it being
    rendered on the fly using my computer's resources. It's mostly text so
    there should be no need to use javascript.

    I'm a Firefox user myself and if it's
    ads he could just use the archive.today site and everything shows up
    clean even the graphs.

    https://archive.fo/MtqOd

    That's helpful. Thank you. Ironically it made me allow javascript as a non-robot test.

    I sure wouldn't go to the hassle of selective j/s for every site I visit.

    You know you've offered to donate your left kidney every time you accept
    terms and conditions, yes? If this isn't an example that allowing
    javascript is dangerous, I don't know what is.

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