• White House ballroom construction suspended with preliminary injunction

    From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Wed Apr 1 08:19:20 2026
    In another case that's largely moot, a federal judge granted National
    Trust for Historic Preservation's motion for a preliminary judgment that
    Trump had no statutory authority to demolish the East Wing to build a
    ballroom.

    Given that the East Wing was already demolished, I don't see what this accomplishes.

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-white-house-ballroom-construction-halted-9cafc70569a3a05fcbaa6cafddbeace4

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  • From suzeeq@3:633/10 to All on Wed Apr 1 07:11:01 2026
    Subject: Re: White House ballroom construction suspended with preliminary injunction

    On 4/1/2026 1:19 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    In another case that's largely moot, a federal judge granted National
    Trust for Historic Preservation's motion for a preliminary judgment that Trump had no statutory authority to demolish the East Wing to build a ballroom.

    Given that the East Wing was already demolished, I don't see what this accomplishes.

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-white-house-ballroom-construction-halted-9cafc70569a3a05fcbaa6cafddbeace4


    He won't be able to complete the construction of his gold ballroom.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Wed Apr 1 07:14:10 2026
    Subject: Re: White House ballroom construction suspended with preliminary injunction

    On 4/1/2026 1:19 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    In another case that's largely moot, a federal judge granted National
    Trust for Historic Preservation's motion for a preliminary judgment that Trump had no statutory authority to demolish the East Wing to build a ballroom.

    Given that the East Wing was already demolished, I don't see what this accomplishes.
    Stops (at least temporally) construction of something that would have to
    be torn down and replaced by a sane administration.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Wed Apr 1 17:03:53 2026
    Subject: Re: White House ballroom construction suspended with preliminary injunction

    On Apr 1, 2026 at 7:14:10 AM PDT, "Dimensional Traveler" <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 4/1/2026 1:19 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    In another case that's largely moot, a federal judge granted National
    Trust for Historic Preservation's motion for a preliminary judgment that
    Trump had no statutory authority to demolish the East Wing to build a
    ballroom.

    Given that the East Wing was already demolished, I don't see what this
    accomplishes.

    Stops (at least temporally) construction of something that would have to
    be torn down and replaced by a sane administration.

    Why would it have to be torn down and replaced?

    And why would doing so be considered sane? It would actually be the work of lunatics to waste tax money tearing down something that actually serves a
    valid function in the residence of a head of state.

    The White House has needed such a facility for decades. When a state function is too big to fit in any of the relatively small rooms in the White House, it currently has to be held out on the lawn under tents. The United States of America has to put foreign dignitaries in the back yard because we don't have something as simple as a decent-sized reception room.

    You may not agree with how Trump went about doing it-- and I'd be right there with you-- but the ballroom itself is most definitely something the White
    House has needed for decades and any subsequent administration that tears it down "just because Trump" (and spends tens of millions to do it) would be logarithmically worse on the issue than Trump ever was.

    If Trump had built himself a rollercoaster or a driving range or something, then yes, getting rid of it when he left office might be an appropriate thing to do. But a formal dining room and diplomatic reception hall that can handle the size of events required to be held in the White House? What possible
    reason could you have for tearing it down when Trump's term is up other than political spite, which is hardly a valid (or sane) reason for spending a
    metric shit-ton of our tax money?



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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Thu Apr 2 07:56:25 2026
    Subject: Re: White House ballroom construction suspended with preliminary injunction

    Verily, in article <10qjj5o$d3ns$3@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com
    deliver unto us this message:
    If Trump had built himself a rollercoaster or a driving range or something, then yes, getting rid of it when he left office might be an appropriate thing to do. But a formal dining room and diplomatic reception hall that can handle the size of events required to be held in the White House?


    This is the bummer. People are screeching about it as if he planned to
    build a temple to himself, but these are perfectly reasonable facilities
    for the White House to have. I always thought the outdoor pavilions were
    a poor substitute -- they serve, sure, but our country should have a
    large function room for its chief exective's use.

    I wish we could get away from this black-and-white thinking. Nobody, not Donald Trump or you or me, is all good or all bad.


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  • From moviePig@3:633/10 to All on Thu Apr 2 10:46:41 2026
    Subject: Re: White House ballroom construction suspended with preliminary injunction

    On 4/2/2026 7:56 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10qjj5o$d3ns$3@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com deliver unto us this message:
    If Trump had built himself a rollercoaster or a driving range or something, >> then yes, getting rid of it when he left office might be an appropriate thing
    to do. But a formal dining room and diplomatic reception hall that can handle
    the size of events required to be held in the White House?


    This is the bummer. People are screeching about it as if he planned to
    build a temple to himself, but these are perfectly reasonable facilities
    for the White House to have. I always thought the outdoor pavilions were
    a poor substitute -- they serve, sure, but our country should have a
    large function room for its chief exective's use.

    I wish we could get away from this black-and-white thinking. Nobody, not Donald Trump or you or me, is all good or all bad.

    Trump's thinking isn't black-and-white, it's gold.



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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Thu Apr 2 08:18:41 2026
    Subject: Re: White House ballroom construction suspended with preliminary injunction

    On 4/2/2026 4:56 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10qjj5o$d3ns$3@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com deliver unto us this message:
    If Trump had built himself a rollercoaster or a driving range or something, >> then yes, getting rid of it when he left office might be an appropriate thing
    to do. But a formal dining room and diplomatic reception hall that can handle
    the size of events required to be held in the White House?


    This is the bummer. People are screeching about it as if he planned to
    build a temple to himself, but these are perfectly reasonable facilities
    for the White House to have. I always thought the outdoor pavilions were
    a poor substitute -- they serve, sure, but our country should have a
    large function room for its chief exective's use.

    I wish we could get away from this black-and-white thinking. Nobody, not Donald Trump or you or me, is all good or all bad.

    Building an Official Presidential Ballroom would be fine. _IF_ it
    didn't involve tearing down a third of the White House, breaking various
    laws, destroying the esthetics of the White House and the city, had appropriate Congressional support, and wasn't really just for the ego of
    the current president.

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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Thu Apr 2 11:42:45 2026
    Subject: Re: White House ballroom construction suspended with preliminary injunction

    Verily, in article <10qm1ch$1696v$2@dont-email.me>, did
    dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
    breaking various laws,


    What laws were broken?

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Thu Apr 2 18:13:15 2026
    Subject: Re: White House ballroom construction suspended with preliminary injunction

    On Apr 2, 2026 at 8:18:41 AM PDT, "Dimensional Traveler" <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2026 4:56 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10qjj5o$d3ns$3@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com
    deliver unto us this message:
    If Trump had built himself a rollercoaster or a driving range or something,
    then yes, getting rid of it when he left office might be an appropriate >>> thing
    to do. But a formal dining room and diplomatic reception hall that can
    handle
    the size of events required to be held in the White House?


    This is the bummer. People are screeching about it as if he planned to
    build a temple to himself, but these are perfectly reasonable facilities
    for the White House to have. I always thought the outdoor pavilions were
    a poor substitute -- they serve, sure, but our country should have a
    large function room for its chief exective's use.

    I wish we could get away from this black-and-white thinking. Nobody, not
    Donald Trump or you or me, is all good or all bad.

    Building an Official Presidential Ballroom would be fine. _IF_ it
    didn't involve tearing down a third of the White House, breaking various laws, destroying the esthetics of the White House and the city, had appropriate Congressional support, and wasn't really just for the ego of
    the current president.

    But even given all that, it would absolutely ridiculous for a subsequent administration to tear it down just because.

    That's just compounding the problem (and spending a huge amount of tax money) for no other reason than just to "own Trump".



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  • From Your Name@3:633/10 to All on Fri Apr 3 10:58:59 2026
    Subject: Re: White House ballroom construction suspended with preliminary injunction

    On 2026-04-02 11:56:25 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    Verily, in article <10qjj5o$d3ns$3@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com deliver unto us this message:

    If Trump had built himself a rollercoaster or a driving range or something, >> then yes, getting rid of it when he left office might be an appropriate thing
    to do. But a formal dining room and diplomatic reception hall that can handle
    the size of events required to be held in the White House?

    This is the bummer. People are screeching about it as if he planned to
    build a temple to himself, but these are perfectly reasonable facilities
    for the White House to have. I always thought the outdoor pavilions were
    a poor substitute -- they serve, sure, but our country should have a
    large function room for its chief exective's use.

    I wish we could get away from this black-and-white thinking. Nobody, not Donald Trump or you or me, is all good or all bad.

    All good or all bad, perhaps not, but Trump the Chump is definitely all brainless moron. :-p




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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/10 to All on Wed Apr 8 22:06:13 2026
    Subject: Re: White House ballroom construction suspended with preliminary injunction

    On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 18:13:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    But even given all that, it would absolutely ridiculous for a subsequent >administration to tear it down just because.

    That's just compounding the problem (and spending a huge amount of tax money) >for no other reason than just to "own Trump".

    Yeah that would be even worse than what the British did in 1814.
    Somehow despite how Keir Starmer feels about Trump (on a scale of 1 to
    10 about a -30) I doubt he'd want to send the British Army for an
    encore. Of course with Starmer one never knows...

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