Subject: Baldwin is STILL getting sued over shooting of Hutchins (was: Pretrial motion favors Alec Baldwin)

Alec Baldwin Can't Evade 'Rust' Gaffer's Negligence Claims, Judge Rules.
Trial Set for October
A judge ruled Friday that Serge Svetnoy deserves a jury trial over
several claims involving the deadly Rust shooting that killed
cinematographer Halyna Hutchins
By Nancy Dillon, Daniel Kreps
Rolling Stone
April 17, 2026

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-lawsuit-gaffer-moves-ahead-1235549740/

"What do you mean if I list myself as producer that actually means I
must defend a tort?"

Perhaps this will finally put an end to the outrageous Hollywood practice
of listing three dozen or more producers regardless of the extent to which
they are management. In this case, there is no question that Baldwin had
enough of a financial stake and behind-the-scenes control of personnel
that he was management.

Neverheless, the plaintiff claiming P.I. is the gaffer Serge Svetnoy?
Fuck the money-grubbing bastard seeking noneconomic damages as a
witness. I read about it in the newspaper, so I must be able to sue too.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
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Subject: Re: Baldwin is STILL getting sued over shooting of Hutchins (was: Pretrial motion favors Alec Baldwin)

On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 11:35:42 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Alec Baldwin Can't Evade 'Rust' Gaffer's Negligence Claims, Judge Rules. >Trial Set for October
A judge ruled Friday that Serge Svetnoy deserves a jury trial over
several claims involving the deadly Rust shooting that killed
cinematographer Halyna Hutchins
By Nancy Dillon, Daniel Kreps
Rolling Stone
April 17, 2026

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-lawsuit-gaffer-moves-ahead-1235549740/

"What do you mean if I list myself as producer that actually means I
must defend a tort?"

Perhaps this will finally put an end to the outrageous Hollywood practice
of listing three dozen or more producers regardless of the extent to which >they are management. In this case, there is no question that Baldwin had >enough of a financial stake and behind-the-scenes control of personnel
that he was management.

Neverheless, the plaintiff claiming P.I. is the gaffer Serge Svetnoy?
Fuck the money-grubbing bastard seeking noneconomic damages as a
witness. I read about it in the newspaper, so I must be able to sue too.

Hopefully the gaffer will end up having to pay all court fees just to discourage this sort of money grab. Then Baldwin can sue Svetnoy if he
wants to keep it going.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

On 2026-04-18 7:35 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Alec Baldwin Can't Evade 'Rust' Gaffer's Negligence Claims, Judge Rules. Trial Set for October
A judge ruled Friday that Serge Svetnoy deserves a jury trial over
several claims involving the deadly Rust shooting that killed
cinematographer Halyna Hutchins
By Nancy Dillon, Daniel Kreps
Rolling Stone
April 17, 2026

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-lawsuit-gaffer-moves-ahead-1235549740/

"What do you mean if I list myself as producer that actually means I
must defend a tort?"

Perhaps this will finally put an end to the outrageous Hollywood practice
of listing three dozen or more producers regardless of the extent to which they are management.

Just look at the credits in classic films from the 1940s or 50s and
you'll see just ONE producer - like David O. Selznick - and not one
Executive Producer, Co-Executive Producer, Line Producer, Coordinating Producer, Co-Producer or any of the other kinds of producers you see in
more recent films and TV shows. I honestly don't know what you actually
have to actually do to earn the right to call yourself any of these
kinds of producers in modern film or TV. (Mind you, I don't know really
know what someone like Selznick did either, back in the day. I get that
he would have greenlit a given production but what creative input did he
have? Could he veto the director's casting choices, budgets, shooting locations, the whole enchillada? I'm guessing yes but maybe directors
had actual control over some of it.)

In this case, there is no question that Baldwin had
enough of a financial stake and behind-the-scenes control of personnel
that he was management.

Neverheless, the plaintiff claiming P.I. is the gaffer Serge Svetnoy?
Fuck the money-grubbing bastard seeking noneconomic damages as a
witness. I read about it in the newspaper, so I must be able to sue too.

--
Rhino

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
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Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

. . .

Just look at the credits in classic films from the 1940s or 50s and
you'll see just ONE producer - like David O. Selznick - and not one >Executive Producer, Co-Executive Producer, Line Producer, Coordinating >Producer, Co-Producer or any of the other kinds of producers you see in
more recent films and TV shows. I honestly don't know what you actually
have to actually do to earn the right to call yourself any of these
kinds of producers in modern film or TV. (Mind you, I don't know really
know what someone like Selznick did either, back in the day. I get that
he would have greenlit a given production but what creative input did he >have? Could he veto the director's casting choices, budgets, shooting >locations, the whole enchillada? I'm guessing yes but maybe directors
had actual control over some of it.)

Selznick was an independent producer who created his own company for
Gone With the Wind and Rebecca. As Louis B. Mayer's son-in-law, MGM
often distributed his movies.

Yes, he controlled casting, the script, and all aspects of production. Hitchcock had so many problems during production of Rebecca that when he completed his deal with Seznick, he had greater control of production
written into his future contracts.

Hitchcock was usually able to keep costs down during production as he
planned everything in advance. Selznick often started production before
the complete shooting script was ready, so Hitchcock was receiving pages
as production was about to start for the morning.

Hitchcock still "edited in camera" as he almost never shot more footage
than he needed, so even though he lacked director's cut rights, Selznick
had no choice but to use all the footage Hitchcock shot.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

On Apr 18, 2026 at 6:30:41 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

On 2026-04-18 7:35 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Alec Baldwin Can't Evade 'Rust' Gaffer's Negligence Claims, Judge Rules.
Trial Set for October
A judge ruled Friday that Serge Svetnoy deserves a jury trial over
several claims involving the deadly Rust shooting that killed
cinematographer Halyna Hutchins
By Nancy Dillon, Daniel Kreps
Rolling Stone
April 17, 2026


https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-lawsuit-gaffer-moves-ahead-1235549740/

"What do you mean if I list myself as producer that actually means I
must defend a tort?"

Perhaps this will finally put an end to the outrageous Hollywood practice >> of listing three dozen or more producers regardless of the extent to which >> they are management.

Just look at the credits in classic films from the 1940s or 50s and
you'll see just ONE producer - like David O. Selznick - and not one Executive Producer, Co-Executive Producer, Line Producer, Coordinating Producer, Co-Producer or any of the other kinds of producers you see in
more recent films and TV shows.

I was 15 minutes into the latest episode of L&O and the credits were still rolling because of all the producers.

I honestly don't know what you actually
have to actually do to earn the right to call yourself any of these
kinds of producers in modern film or TV. (Mind you, I don't know really
know what someone like Selznick did either, back in the day. I get that
he would have greenlit a given production but what creative input did he have? Could he veto the director's casting choices, budgets, shooting locations, the whole enchillada? I'm guessing yes but maybe directors
had actual control over some of it.)

In this case, there is no question that Baldwin had
enough of a financial stake and behind-the-scenes control of personnel
that he was management.

Neverheless, the plaintiff claiming P.I. is the gaffer Serge Svetnoy?
Fuck the money-grubbing bastard seeking noneconomic damages as a
witness. I read about it in the newspaper, so I must be able to sue too.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

Subject: Re: Baldwin is STILL getting sued over shooting of Hutchins (was: Pretrial motion favors Alec Baldwin)

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 11:35:42 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Alec Baldwin Can't Evade 'Rust' Gaffer's Negligence Claims, Judge Rules.
Trial Set for October
A judge ruled Friday that Serge Svetnoy deserves a jury trial over
several claims involving the deadly Rust shooting that killed
cinematographer Halyna Hutchins
By Nancy Dillon, Daniel Kreps
Rolling Stone
April 17, 2026

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-lawsuit-gaffer-moves-ahead-1235549740/

"What do you mean if I list myself as producer that actually means I
must defend a tort?"

Perhaps this will finally put an end to the outrageous Hollywood practice
of listing three dozen or more producers regardless of the extent to which >> they are management. In this case, there is no question that Baldwin had
enough of a financial stake and behind-the-scenes control of personnel
that he was management.

Neverheless, the plaintiff claiming P.I. is the gaffer Serge Svetnoy?
Fuck the money-grubbing bastard seeking noneconomic damages as a
witness. I read about it in the newspaper, so I must be able to sue too.

Hopefully the gaffer will end up having to pay all court fees just to discourage this sort of money grab. Then Baldwin can sue Svetnoy if he
wants to keep it going.

Right after they sentence Baldwin to death

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Apr 18, 2026 at 6:30:41 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

On 2026-04-18 7:35 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Alec Baldwin Can't Evade 'Rust' Gaffer's Negligence Claims, Judge Rules. >>> Trial Set for October
A judge ruled Friday that Serge Svetnoy deserves a jury trial over
several claims involving the deadly Rust shooting that killed
cinematographer Halyna Hutchins
By Nancy Dillon, Daniel Kreps
Rolling Stone
April 17, 2026


https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-lawsuit-gaffer-moves-ahead-1235549740/

"What do you mean if I list myself as producer that actually means I
must defend a tort?"

Perhaps this will finally put an end to the outrageous Hollywood practice >>> of listing three dozen or more producers regardless of the extent to which >>> they are management.

Just look at the credits in classic films from the 1940s or 50s and
you'll see just ONE producer - like David O. Selznick - and not one
Executive Producer, Co-Executive Producer, Line Producer, Coordinating
Producer, Co-Producer or any of the other kinds of producers you see in
more recent films and TV shows.

I was 15 minutes into the latest episode of L&O and the credits were still rolling because of all the producers.

Squirrel Wrangler emeritus Angie Harmon

I honestly don't know what you actually
have to actually do to earn the right to call yourself any of these
kinds of producers in modern film or TV. (Mind you, I don't know really
know what someone like Selznick did either, back in the day. I get that
he would have greenlit a given production but what creative input did he
have? Could he veto the director's casting choices, budgets, shooting
locations, the whole enchillada? I'm guessing yes but maybe directors
had actual control over some of it.)

In this case, there is no question that Baldwin had
enough of a financial stake and behind-the-scenes control of personnel
that he was management.

Neverheless, the plaintiff claiming P.I. is the gaffer Serge Svetnoy?
Fuck the money-grubbing bastard seeking noneconomic damages as a
witness. I read about it in the newspaper, so I must be able to sue too.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 12:32:12 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Apr 18, 2026 at 6:30:41 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:

On 2026-04-18 7:35 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Alec Baldwin Can't Evade 'Rust' Gaffer's Negligence Claims, Judge Rules. >>>> Trial Set for October
A judge ruled Friday that Serge Svetnoy deserves a jury trial over
several claims involving the deadly Rust shooting that killed
cinematographer Halyna Hutchins
By Nancy Dillon, Daniel Kreps
Rolling Stone
April 17, 2026


https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-lawsuit-gaffer-moves-ahead-1235549740/

"What do you mean if I list myself as producer that actually means I
must defend a tort?"

Perhaps this will finally put an end to the outrageous Hollywood practice >>>> of listing three dozen or more producers regardless of the extent to which >>>> they are management.

Just look at the credits in classic films from the 1940s or 50s and
you'll see just ONE producer - like David O. Selznick - and not one
Executive Producer, Co-Executive Producer, Line Producer, Coordinating
Producer, Co-Producer or any of the other kinds of producers you see in >>> more recent films and TV shows.

I was 15 minutes into the latest episode of L&O and the credits were still >> rolling because of all the producers.

Squirrel Wrangler emeritus Angie Harmon

She's likely in training for a possible Squirrel Girl movie.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 12:32:12 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Apr 18, 2026 at 6:30:41 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >>> wrote:

On 2026-04-18 7:35 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Alec Baldwin Can't Evade 'Rust' Gaffer's Negligence Claims, Judge Rules. >>>>> Trial Set for October
A judge ruled Friday that Serge Svetnoy deserves a jury trial over
several claims involving the deadly Rust shooting that killed
cinematographer Halyna Hutchins
By Nancy Dillon, Daniel Kreps
Rolling Stone
April 17, 2026


https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-lawsuit-gaffer-moves-ahead-1235549740/

"What do you mean if I list myself as producer that actually means I >>>>> must defend a tort?"

Perhaps this will finally put an end to the outrageous Hollywood practice >>>>> of listing three dozen or more producers regardless of the extent to which
they are management.

Just look at the credits in classic films from the 1940s or 50s and
you'll see just ONE producer - like David O. Selznick - and not one
Executive Producer, Co-Executive Producer, Line Producer, Coordinating >>>> Producer, Co-Producer or any of the other kinds of producers you see in >>>> more recent films and TV shows.

I was 15 minutes into the latest episode of L&O and the credits were still >>> rolling because of all the producers.

Squirrel Wrangler emeritus Angie Harmon

She's likely in training for a possible Squirrel Girl movie.

I like it

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

Subject: Re: Baldwin is STILL getting sued over shooting of Hutchins (was: Pretrial motion favors Alec Baldwin)

In article <10s2l9i$2h5o6$4@paganini.bofh.team>, atropdos@mac.com wrote:

Why is shooting Americans such a problem these days?
What happened to our God given right to keep and bear arms?

TROLL-O-METER

5* 6* *7
4* *8
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0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity




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