• Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

    From shawn@3:633/10 to All on Tue Jun 2 20:50:08 2026
    Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series https://www.gateworld.net/news/2026/06/amazon-axed-new-stargate-series/


    Amazon MGM Studios has backtracked on its plan to reopen the Stargate
    with a new series from writer and executive producer Martin Gero,
    Variety has reported and GateWorld has confirmed. The show was to
    stream globally on Prime Video.

    The show was announced in November in a video from the studio, with
    Gero and fellow Stargate TV veterans Brad Wright and Joseph Mallozzi
    taking the news straight to the fans.

    Citing an anonymous source with knowledge of the situation, Variety
    reports that executives at the studio were concerned that Gero?s take
    on the series ?would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise?s
    already dedicated fanbase.? This is a key component in reviving a
    legacy IP, as it can be difficult to justify a large price tag (such
    as a big-budget streaming series) if a project only reaches existing
    fans, and fails to grow the audience.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Wed Jun 3 01:49:33 2026
    On Jun 2, 2026 at 5:50:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series https://www.gateworld.net/news/2026/06/amazon-axed-new-stargate-series/

    Amazon MGM Studios has backtracked on its plan to reopen the Stargate
    with a new series from writer and executive producer Martin Gero,
    Variety has reported and GateWorld has confirmed. The show was to
    stream globally on Prime Video.

    Crap. I was looking forward to this.

    The show was announced in November in a video from the studio, with
    Gero and fellow Stargate TV veterans Brad Wright and Joseph Mallozzi
    taking the news straight to the fans.

    Citing an anonymous source with knowledge of the situation, Variety
    reports that executives at the studio were concerned that Gero?s take
    on the series ?would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise?s
    already dedicated fanbase"

    This is Hollywood code for, he didn't want to populate the show with gays, transformers, and race-swapped characters, and was interested in just making a show that would please the fans rather than check DEI boxes.



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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Wed Jun 3 03:24:58 2026
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Jun 2, 2026 at 5:50:08 PM PDT, shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series >>https://www.gateworld.net/news/2026/06/amazon-axed-new-stargate-series/

    Amazon MGM Studios has backtracked on its plan to reopen the Stargate
    with a new series from writer and executive producer Martin Gero,
    Variety has reported and GateWorld has confirmed. The show was to
    stream globally on Prime Video.

    Crap. I was looking forward to this.

    The show was announced in November in a video from the studio, with
    Gero and fellow Stargate TV veterans Brad Wright and Joseph Mallozzi
    taking the news straight to the fans.

    Citing an anonymous source with knowledge of the situation, Variety
    reports that executives at the studio were concerned that Gero?s take
    on the series ?would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise?s
    already dedicated fanbase"

    This is Hollywood code for, he didn't want to populate the show with gays, >transformers, and race-swapped characters, and was interested in just making a >show that would please the fans rather than check DEI boxes.

    Can I just remind you that Stargate went there from the beginning? It's
    the only other movie Jaye Davidson appeared in. Plus the original
    alients were parasites who could take over the bodies of any host, so at
    least the aliens race swapped throughout the tv series. Even the Asgaard appeared as holograms.

    If you insist on Hollywood tic boxes, just do it with the aliens. It's
    science fiction, real easy to go there. Don't do it with the established
    human characters.

    And if the movie pleased fans, it's probably entertaining and could find
    a new audience.

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  • From Your Name@3:633/10 to All on Wed Jun 3 17:41:06 2026
    On 2026-06-03 00:50:08 +0000, shawn said:

    Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series https://www.gateworld.net/news/2026/06/amazon-axed-new-stargate-series/

    YIPPEE!!!
    I wish I could say common sense had prevailed for a change, but from
    the article, it obviously hasn't.




    Amazon MGM Studios has backtracked on its plan to reopen the Stargate
    with a new series from writer and executive producer Martin Gero,
    Variety has reported and GateWorld has confirmed. The show was to
    stream globally on Prime Video.

    The show was announced in November in a video from the studio, with
    Gero and fellow Stargate TV veterans Brad Wright and Joseph Mallozzi
    taking the news straight to the fans.

    Citing an anonymous source with knowledge of the situation, Variety
    reports that executives at the studio were concerned that Gero?s take
    on the series ?would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise?s
    already dedicated fanbase.? This is a key component in reviving a
    legacy IP, as it can be difficult to justify a large price tag (such
    as a big-budget streaming series) if a project only reaches existing
    fans, and fails to grow the audience.

    Which is the entire reason why they should never make idiotic "reboots"
    in the first place - they have absolutely nothing to do with the fans
    (hence all the moronic changes), but are simply a cash-grab by the
    greedy makers with no actual creative talent themselves. If they want
    to make such a different show for a new audience, then make a *new*
    show, and not senselessly try to hitch it up to an existing franchise.
    :-\






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  • From Robin Miller@3:633/10 to All on Wed Jun 3 14:17:26 2026
    shawn wrote:
    Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series https://www.gateworld.net/news/2026/06/amazon-axed-new-stargate-series/


    Amazon MGM Studios has backtracked on its plan to reopen the Stargate
    with a new series from writer and executive producer Martin Gero,
    Variety has reported and GateWorld has confirmed. The show was to
    stream globally on Prime Video.

    The show was announced in November in a video from the studio, with
    Gero and fellow Stargate TV veterans Brad Wright and Joseph Mallozzi
    taking the news straight to the fans.

    Citing an anonymous source with knowledge of the situation, Variety
    reports that executives at the studio were concerned that Gero?s take
    on the series ?would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise?s
    already dedicated fanbase.? This is a key component in reviving a
    legacy IP, as it can be difficult to justify a large price tag (such
    as a big-budget streaming series) if a project only reaches existing
    fans, and fails to grow the audience.



    Joseph Mallozzi, who worked on the show, disagrees that it wouldn't
    attack new viewers:


    Creator Martin Gero developed a new Stargate series over two years,
    ultimately crafting a show that offered a fresh jumping-on point for new viewers while deeply respecting existing canon. It was a series that
    avoided the pitfalls of several modern remakes and reboots by fully
    embracing the core of its predecessors: action, adventure, exploration, wonder, heart, humor, and found family. And based on that creative
    vision, the new Stargate series was greenlit in November of 2025.

    As of today, officially, that original vision is no more. We'll never
    get the opportunity to introduce you to that world and those characters
    - or reintroduce you to, and check in with, some familiar faces from the
    past.

    My heart breaks. For the incredibly talented writers who worked
    tirelessly to bring this show to life. For Martin who maintained an
    unwavering positive outlook throughout despite the challenges, and who
    always strove to make a show that would honor the fans while welcoming a
    new audiences. And for the long-suffering Stargate fandom who waited so
    long and came so close to getting a show they truly would have loved.


    Gero also disagreed in a response to the Variety article.

    --Robin

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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jun 4 08:13:05 2026
    On 6/3/26 11:17 AM, Robin Miller wrote:
    shawn wrote:

    Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series
    https://www.gateworld.net/news/2026/06/amazon-axed-new-stargate-series/


    Amazon MGM Studios has backtracked on its plan to reopen the Stargate
    with a new series from writer and executive producer Martin Gero,
    Variety has reported and GateWorld has confirmed. The show was to
    stream globally on Prime Video.

    The show was announced in November in a video from the studio, with
    Gero and fellow Stargate TV veterans Brad Wright and Joseph Mallozzi
    taking the news straight to the fans.

    Citing an anonymous source with knowledge of the situation, Variety
    reports that executives at the studio were concerned that Gero?s take
    on the series ?would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise?s
    already dedicated fanbase.? This is a key component in reviving a
    legacy IP, as it can be difficult to justify a large price tag (such
    as a big-budget streaming series) if a project only reaches existing
    fans, and fails to grow the audience.

    Joseph Mallozzi, who worked on the show, disagrees that it wouldn't
    attack new viewers:

    Creator Martin Gero developed a new Stargate series over two years, ultimately crafting a show that offered a fresh jumping-on point for new viewers while deeply respecting existing canon. It was a series that
    avoided the pitfalls of several modern remakes and reboots by fully embracing the core of its predecessors: action, adventure, exploration, wonder, heart, humor, and found family. And based on that creative
    vision, the new Stargate series was greenlit in November of 2025.

    As of today, officially, that original vision is no more. We'll never
    get the opportunity to introduce you to that world and those characters
    - or reintroduce you to, and check in with, some familiar faces from the past.

    My heart breaks. For the incredibly talented writers who worked
    tirelessly to bring this show to life. For Martin who maintained an unwavering positive outlook throughout despite the challenges, and who always strove to make a show that would honor the fans while welcoming a
    new audiences. And for the long-suffering Stargate fandom who waited so
    long and came so close to getting a show they truly would have loved.


    Gero also disagreed in a response to the Variety article.

    --Robin

    I think the moral of this story, if it wasn't blatantly clear before, is
    that you now can't trust the streamers to do television, if indeed you
    ever could.

    But I am in the camp that says the streamers are quickly ruining series television. I seriously think series TV is going to be pretty much
    entirely dead by about 2030, unless somehow the broadcast nets somehow
    manage to rebound.

    I think us oldsters will be reduced to watching nothing but reruns at
    that point.



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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jun 4 12:12:37 2026
    On 2026-06-04 11:13 a.m., Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 6/3/26 11:17 AM, Robin Miller wrote:
    shawn wrote:

    Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series
    https://www.gateworld.net/news/2026/06/amazon-axed-new-stargate-series/


    Amazon MGM Studios has backtracked on its plan to reopen the Stargate
    with a new series from writer and executive producer Martin Gero,
    Variety has reported and GateWorld has confirmed. The show was to
    stream globally on Prime Video.

    The show was announced in November in a video from the studio, with
    Gero and fellow Stargate TV veterans Brad Wright and Joseph Mallozzi
    taking the news straight to the fans.

    Citing an anonymous source with knowledge of the situation, Variety
    reports that executives at the studio were concerned that Gero?s take
    on the series ?would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise?s
    already dedicated fanbase.? This is a key component in reviving a
    legacy IP, as it can be difficult to justify a large price tag (such
    as a big-budget streaming series) if a project only reaches existing
    fans, and fails to grow the audience.

    Joseph Mallozzi, who worked on the show, disagrees that it wouldn't
    attack new viewers:

    Creator Martin Gero developed a new Stargate series over two years,
    ultimately crafting a show that offered a fresh jumping-on point for
    new viewers while deeply respecting existing canon. It was a series
    that avoided the pitfalls of several modern remakes and reboots by
    fully embracing the core of its predecessors: action, adventure,
    exploration, wonder, heart, humor, and found family. And based on that
    creative vision, the new Stargate series was greenlit in November of
    2025.

    As of today, officially, that original vision is no more. We'll never
    get the opportunity to introduce you to that world and those
    characters - or reintroduce you to, and check in with, some familiar
    faces from the past.

    My heart breaks. For the incredibly talented writers who worked
    tirelessly to bring this show to life. For Martin who maintained an
    unwavering positive outlook throughout despite the challenges, and who
    always strove to make a show that would honor the fans while welcoming
    a new audiences. And for the long-suffering Stargate fandom who waited
    so long and came so close to getting a show they truly would have loved.


    Gero also disagreed in a response to the Variety article.

    --Robin

    I think the moral of this story, if it wasn't blatantly clear before, is that you now can't trust the streamers to do television, if indeed you
    ever could.

    But I am in the camp that says the streamers are quickly ruining series television. I seriously think series TV is going to be pretty much
    entirely dead by about 2030, unless somehow the broadcast nets somehow manage to rebound.

    I think us oldsters will be reduced to watching nothing but reruns at
    that point.


    That's certainly been my experience with written Science Fiction and
    music. The only really good recent SF novel I've read in *years* was The Martian, which is written in a very old-school way in that it is NOT a dystopia. I was an active member of an SF book club for years in the
    hopes of discovering some new writers and books that really excited me
    but I pretty much came up empty and have settled for re-reading old
    favourites when I read SF at all.

    I haven't found a new band to care about since Tears for Fears in the
    early 90s. Newer music is increasingly dreadful with the exception of well-established bands that are mostly living on their legacies, not
    producing new music. I get more satisfaction listening to obscure bands
    from the 60s and 70s than from anything being produced today.

    And I'm definitely watching much less TV than ever before. Most of the
    newer shows are utter crap. (I make an exception for Taylor Sheridan who
    still writes some good shows, although the stuff built on his universes
    but not written by him is not as good as what he actually writes
    himself.) I still watch other stuff but not much of it is really all
    that good. It won't be long before I'm watching almost only older shows
    from my archive. I do sample unfamiliar shows from time to time and occasionally find something watchable but most are not of any real
    interest to me.

    I'm still curious about what AI is going to do to TV. For instance, I
    wonder if we'll see a remake of the original Star Trek with AI versions
    of Kirk, Spock and the rest of the crew but with some rewriting to end
    all the deviations from canon to keep everything as consistent as it can
    be? Maybe they could produce some of the better scripts that never got produced in the original run due to cost considerations and not bother remaking some of the truly stupid episodes, like Spock's Brain, or
    actually revise those episodes so they're a lot better. And then go
    further into some of those stories the way The Orville did, with
    followup episodes to the best episodes so that we could see what became
    of those characters and situations. I think AI has some real potential
    there.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Nyssa@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jun 4 12:36:14 2026
    Rhino wrote:

    On 2026-06-04 11:13 a.m., Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 6/3/26 11:17 AM, Robin Miller wrote:
    shawn wrote:

    Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series
    https://www.gateworld.net/news/2026/06/amazon-axed-new-stargate-se
    ries/


    Amazon MGM Studios has backtracked on its plan to
    reopen the Stargate with a new series from writer and
    executive producer Martin Gero, Variety has reported
    and GateWorld has confirmed. The show was to stream
    globally on Prime Video.

    The show was announced in November in a video from the
    studio, with Gero and fellow Stargate TV veterans Brad
    Wright and Joseph Mallozzi taking the news straight to
    the fans.

    Citing an anonymous source with knowledge of the
    situation, Variety reports that executives at the
    studio were concerned that Gero?s take on the series
    ?would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise?
    s
    already dedicated fanbase.? This is a key component in
    reviving a legacy IP, as it can be difficult to justify
    a large price tag (such as a big-budget streaming
    series) if a project only reaches existing fans, and
    fails to grow the audience.

    Joseph Mallozzi, who worked on the show, disagrees that
    it wouldn't attack new viewers:

    Creator Martin Gero developed a new Stargate series over
    two years, ultimately crafting a show that offered a
    fresh jumping-on point for new viewers while deeply
    respecting existing canon. It was a series that avoided
    the pitfalls of several modern remakes and reboots by
    fully embracing the core of its predecessors: action,
    adventure, exploration, wonder, heart, humor, and found
    family. And based on that creative vision, the new
    Stargate series was greenlit in November of 2025.

    As of today, officially, that original vision is no
    more. We'll never get the opportunity to introduce you
    to that world and those characters - or reintroduce you
    to, and check in with, some familiar faces from the
    past.

    My heart breaks. For the incredibly talented writers who
    worked tirelessly to bring this show to life. For Martin
    who maintained an unwavering positive outlook throughout
    despite the challenges, and who always strove to make a
    show that would honor the fans while welcoming a new
    audiences. And for the long-suffering Stargate fandom
    who waited so long and came so close to getting a show
    they truly would have loved.


    Gero also disagreed in a response to the Variety
    article.

    --Robin

    I think the moral of this story, if it wasn't blatantly
    clear before, is that you now can't trust the streamers
    to do television, if indeed you ever could.

    But I am in the camp that says the streamers are quickly
    ruining series television. I seriously think series TV is
    going to be pretty much entirely dead by about 2030,
    unless somehow the broadcast nets somehow manage to
    rebound.

    I think us oldsters will be reduced to watching nothing
    but reruns at that point.


    That's certainly been my experience with written Science
    Fiction and music. The only really good recent SF novel
    I've read in *years* was The Martian, which is written in
    a very old-school way in that it is NOT a dystopia. I was
    an active member of an SF book club for years in the hopes
    of discovering some new writers and books that really
    excited me but I pretty much came up empty and have
    settled for re-reading old favourites when I read SF at
    all.

    I haven't found a new band to care about since Tears for
    Fears in the early 90s. Newer music is increasingly
    dreadful with the exception of well-established bands that
    are mostly living on their legacies, not producing new
    music. I get more satisfaction listening to obscure bands
    from the 60s and 70s than from anything being produced
    today.

    And I'm definitely watching much less TV than ever before.
    Most of the newer shows are utter crap. (I make an
    exception for Taylor Sheridan who still writes some good
    shows, although the stuff built on his universes but not
    written by him is not as good as what he actually writes
    himself.) I still watch other stuff but not much of it is
    really all that good. It won't be long before I'm watching
    almost only older shows from my archive. I do sample
    unfamiliar shows from time to time and occasionally find
    something watchable but most are not of any real interest
    to me.

    I'm still curious about what AI is going to do to TV. For
    instance, I wonder if we'll see a remake of the original
    Star Trek with AI versions of Kirk, Spock and the rest of
    the crew but with some rewriting to end all the deviations
    from canon to keep everything as consistent as it can be?
    Maybe they could produce some of the better scripts that
    never got produced in the original run due to cost
    considerations and not bother remaking some of the truly
    stupid episodes, like Spock's Brain, or actually revise
    those episodes so they're a lot better. And then go
    further into some of those stories the way The Orville
    did, with followup episodes to the best episodes so that
    we could see what became of those characters and
    situations. I think AI has some real potential there.


    To me, TV has gotten so bad that I rarely watch at all anymore.
    "Reality" TV, game shows, rinse-and-repeat cop show clones have
    polluted the airwaves to the point, why bother?

    Occasionally I do watch DVDs of old shows that are in my library.
    I've even aquired some of old shows that I didn't orginally watch,
    but have heard good things about enough to give them a try.

    As for music, I don't care for the new stuff at all and that
    goes back for a couple or three decades. I'll listen to classical,
    40s. 50s, and some 60s on the satellite radio channels if I
    need some background music.

    Otherwise, I've been branching out in my music choices to include
    Brazillian jazz (anything by Antonio Carlos Jobim or Joao Gilberto),

    some Cape Breton/Celtic style music (e.g. Great Big Sea), and some
    traditional Quebec music (e.g. Le Vent du Nord). Hunting down the CDs

    is half the challenge and fun. :)

    Luckily I also like to read A LOT in a lot of genres including some
    technical stuff and non-fiction.

    I've been getting along just fine without what passes for contemporary television.

    Nyssa, who knows that she's not missed by the contemporary TV
    content producers since she's far out of their desired demographic
    anyway



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  • From Your Name@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jun 5 18:31:01 2026
    On 2026-06-04 16:36:14 +0000, Nyssa said:
    <snip>
    Nyssa, who knows that she's not missed by the contemporary TV content producers since she's far out of their desired demographic anyway

    If you can watch or listen to adverts, then you're in the 'demographic'. ;-)

    (Even if you were deaf and blind, they'd probably still find a way to
    shovel adverts at you!)


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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jun 5 09:44:46 2026
    Verily, in article <10vtqf5$ufh2$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    On 2026-06-04 16:36:14 +0000, Nyssa said:
    <snip>
    Nyssa, who knows that she's not missed by the contemporary TV content producers since she's far out of their desired demographic anyway

    If you can watch or listen to adverts, then you're in the 'demographic'. ;-)

    (Even if you were deaf and blind, they'd probably still find a way to
    shovel adverts at you!)

    Most of the ads I see these days are targeted at old people. I suppose
    it's a hazard of streaming. With broadcast, nobody could tell whether a
    given person was watching.

    --
    The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
    United States of America - North America - Earth
    Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
    Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos

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  • From Your Name@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jun 6 11:26:10 2026
    On 2026-06-05 13:44:46 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    Verily, in article <10vtqf5$ufh2$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
    On 2026-06-04 16:36:14 +0000, Nyssa said:
    <snip>
    Nyssa, who knows that she's not missed by the contemporary TV content
    producers since she's far out of their desired demographic anyway

    If you can watch or listen to adverts, then you're in the 'demographic'. ;-)

    (Even if you were deaf and blind, they'd probably still find a way to
    shovel adverts at you!)

    Most of the ads I see these days are targeted at old people. I suppose
    it's a hazard of streaming. With broadcast, nobody could tell whether a
    given person was watching.

    The New Zealand Herald newspaper, many of the freebie community
    magazines, and even broadcast TV channels here have lots of adverts
    aimed at old people - retirement homes, hearing aids, home care
    services, mobility scoters, funeral insurance (espcially on TV), etc.
    :-\


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