• Fan video about Q, Borg, Voyager, claiming a coherent story

    From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jul 20 08:05:04 2026
    This video about a lot of disparate plot points on various Star Trek
    shows argues that the writing was a whole lot bettter than I remember it
    to be. When I first watched, much of the use of Q and the Borg could be
    weak, and I don't recall liking Janeway's encounter with Q at all.

    He put more thought into this than the actual writers had.

    Not convinced Sisko's backstory was necessary except it fit his theme
    and trying to shove the Dominion War into the Q narrative doesn't really
    work. It's almost like the reveal on Supernatural that Chuck was writing
    a tv series.

    Still, it's a fun effort.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVv8sn5ihbA

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jul 20 18:30:37 2026
    On Jul 20, 2026 at 1:05:04 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    This video about a lot of disparate plot points on various Star Trek
    shows argues that the writing was a whole lot bettter than I remember it
    to be. When I first watched, much of the use of Q and the Borg could be
    weak, and I don't recall liking Janeway's encounter with Q at all.

    Janeway encountering Q had to be the stupidest bit of stunt casting I've ever seen. I can just imagine how it went in the writers' room:

    IDIOT 1: So we need to bring a franchise favorite onto the show to boost ratings during sweeps. Someone from one of the other TREK shows.

    IDIOT 2: How can we do that? Our entire premise is that our ship is stranded
    so far away from everyone else they can't even make contact with them, let alone get back in their lifetimes.

    IDIOT 1: So how about Q? I mean, he can pop in and out anywhere he wants in
    the universe instantaneously. He even threw the Enterprise halfway across the galaxy in an instant once.

    IDIOT 2: Umm... yeah, that's exactly why he can't be on our show or every single viewer is going to ask, "Why doesn't he just snap his fingers and send Voyager back to Earth?" And if he did that, we wouldn't have a show anymore.

    IDIOT 1: Hmm... that's a conundrum. Let's do it anyway. Get DeLancie on the phone!



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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jul 20 11:44:28 2026
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    This video about a lot of disparate plot points on various Star Trek
    shows argues that the writing was a whole lot bettter than I remember it
    to be.

    Knot eye

    When I first watched, much of the use of Q and the Borg could be
    weak, and I don't recall liking Janeway's encounter with Q at all.

    He put more thought into this than the actual writers had.

    Not convinced Sisko's backstory was necessary

    It would have explained him beating Picard to a bloody pulp; after all the cowardly Frenchman did murder, his wife,

    except it fit his theme
    and trying to shove the Dominion War into the Q narrative doesn't really work. It's almost like the reveal on Supernatural that Chuck was writing
    a tv series.

    Still, it's a fun effort.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVv8sn5ihbA




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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jul 20 17:09:01 2026
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jul 20, 2026 at 1:05:04 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    This video about a lot of disparate plot points on various Star Trek
    shows argues that the writing was a whole lot bettter than I remember it
    to be. When I first watched, much of the use of Q and the Borg could be
    weak, and I don't recall liking Janeway's encounter with Q at all.

    Janeway encountering Q had to be the stupidest bit of stunt casting I've ever seen. I can just imagine how it went in the writers' room:

    IDIOT 1: So we need to bring a franchise favorite onto the show to boost ratings during sweeps. Someone from one of the other TREK shows.

    IDIOT 2: How can we do that? Our entire premise is that our ship is stranded so far away from everyone else they can't even make contact with them, let alone get back in their lifetimes.

    IDIOT 1: So how about Q? I mean, he can pop in and out anywhere he wants in the universe instantaneously. He even threw the Enterprise halfway across the galaxy in an instant once.

    IDIOT 2: Umm... yeah, that's exactly why he can't be on our show or every single viewer is going to ask, "Why doesn't he just snap his fingers and send Voyager back to Earth?" And if he did that, we wouldn't have a show anymore.

    IDIOT 1: Hmm... that's a conundrum. Let's do it anyway. Get DeLancie on the phone!

    And that bitch Janeway rather than consent to sex, condemned her crew to
    exile and many of them to death.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Tue Jul 21 01:43:14 2026
    On Jul 20, 2026 at 5:09:01 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jul 20, 2026 at 1:05:04 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    This video about a lot of disparate plot points on various Star Trek
    shows argues that the writing was a whole lot bettter than I remember it >>> to be. When I first watched, much of the use of Q and the Borg could be >>> weak, and I don't recall liking Janeway's encounter with Q at all.

    Janeway encountering Q had to be the stupidest bit of stunt casting I've
    ever
    seen. I can just imagine how it went in the writers' room:

    IDIOT 1: So we need to bring a franchise favorite onto the show to boost
    ratings during sweeps. Someone from one of the other TREK shows.

    IDIOT 2: How can we do that? Our entire premise is that our ship is stranded
    so far away from everyone else they can't even make contact with them, let >> alone get back in their lifetimes.

    IDIOT 1: So how about Q? I mean, he can pop in and out anywhere he wants in >> the universe instantaneously. He even threw the Enterprise halfway across >> the
    galaxy in an instant once.

    IDIOT 2: Umm... yeah, that's exactly why he can't be on our show or every >> single viewer is going to ask, "Why doesn't he just snap his fingers and
    send
    Voyager back to Earth?" And if he did that, we wouldn't have a show anymore.

    IDIOT 1: Hmm... that's a conundrum. Let's do it anyway. Get DeLancie on the >> phone!

    And that bitch Janeway rather than consent to sex, condemned her crew to exile and many of them to death.

    It's weird that in all the times he tormented Picard, he never demanded to
    have sex with him.



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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Tue Jul 21 15:11:35 2026
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jul 20, 2026 at 5:09:01 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jul 20, 2026 at 1:05:04 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    This video about a lot of disparate plot points on various Star Trek
    shows argues that the writing was a whole lot bettter than I remember it >>>> to be. When I first watched, much of the use of Q and the Borg could be >>>> weak, and I don't recall liking Janeway's encounter with Q at all.

    Janeway encountering Q had to be the stupidest bit of stunt casting I've >>> ever
    seen. I can just imagine how it went in the writers' room:

    IDIOT 1: So we need to bring a franchise favorite onto the show to boost >>> ratings during sweeps. Someone from one of the other TREK shows.

    IDIOT 2: How can we do that? Our entire premise is that our ship is stranded
    so far away from everyone else they can't even make contact with them, let >>> alone get back in their lifetimes.

    IDIOT 1: So how about Q? I mean, he can pop in and out anywhere he wants in >>> the universe instantaneously. He even threw the Enterprise halfway across >>> the
    galaxy in an instant once.

    IDIOT 2: Umm... yeah, that's exactly why he can't be on our show or every >>> single viewer is going to ask, "Why doesn't he just snap his fingers and >>> send
    Voyager back to Earth?" And if he did that, we wouldn't have a show anymore.

    IDIOT 1: Hmm... that's a conundrum. Let's do it anyway. Get DeLancie on the >>> phone!

    And that bitch Janeway rather than consent to sex, condemned her crew to
    exile and many of them to death.

    It's weird that in all the times he tormented Picard, he never demanded to have sex with him.

    He?s probably afraid he?d surrender and agree.



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