• Another victory over civil asset forfeiture

    From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Mon Aug 24 12:10:43 2026
    I think we discussed this lawsuit some time back, but I don't recall
    what thread it was in. The sheriff's police had an operation at Atlanta Hartsfield in which they would simply interdict passengers on the jetway
    about to board their plane, who are under pressure to board and already
    in a compliant mindset having gone through TSA's checkpoint, and search
    their luggage. The passengers were generally not asserting their rights
    not to comply with suspicionless warrentless search and seizure.

    Oddly, nearly all of the interdicted passengers were black men.

    The police claimed it was a drug sting, but given mandatory luggage
    inspection at airports, courriers don't hide drugs in luggage. So, any
    cash they discovered in luggage or on the passenger's person was seized.

    Guilty property. Obviously it was either being used for a drugs purchase
    or was the proceeds of a drugs sale.

    Twi cimedians, in separate incidents, one in 2020 and the other in 2022,
    wnt through this nonsense. The lawsuit settled in their favor. The
    sheriff, of course, admitted no wrongdoing, but ended the sting since it
    was obvious that the only motive was to seize free cash.

    Steve Lehto video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6upuCfWLWYg

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  • From shawn@3:633/10 to All on Mon Aug 24 14:42:01 2026
    On Mon, 24 Aug 2026 12:10:43 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    I think we discussed this lawsuit some time back, but I don't recall
    what thread it was in. The sheriff's police had an operation at Atlanta >Hartsfield in which they would simply interdict passengers on the jetway >about to board their plane, who are under pressure to board and already
    in a compliant mindset having gone through TSA's checkpoint, and search
    their luggage. The passengers were generally not asserting their rights
    not to comply with suspicionless warrentless search and seizure.

    Oddly, nearly all of the interdicted passengers were black men.

    The police claimed it was a drug sting, but given mandatory luggage >inspection at airports, courriers don't hide drugs in luggage. So, any
    cash they discovered in luggage or on the passenger's person was seized.

    Guilty property. Obviously it was either being used for a drugs purchase
    or was the proceeds of a drugs sale.


    I never understood why this was allowed. If there is a crime involved
    then that should be able to be proven in a court. Yet the whole point
    is the LEOs want to take the money without getting in to a legal
    challenge.

    Twi cimedians, in separate incidents, one in 2020 and the other in 2022,
    wnt through this nonsense. The lawsuit settled in their favor. The
    sheriff, of course, admitted no wrongdoing, but ended the sting since it
    was obvious that the only motive was to seize free cash.

    Steve Lehto video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6upuCfWLWYg

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Mon Aug 24 19:22:25 2026
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    Mon, 24 Aug 2026 12:10:43 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    I think we discussed this lawsuit some time back, but I don't recall
    what thread it was in. The sheriff's police had an operation at Atlanta >>Hartsfield in which they would simply interdict passengers on the jetway >>about to board their plane, who are under pressure to board and already
    in a compliant mindset having gone through TSA's checkpoint, and search >>their luggage. The passengers were generally not asserting their rights
    not to comply with suspicionless warrentless search and seizure.

    Oddly, nearly all of the interdicted passengers were black men.

    The police claimed it was a drug sting, but given mandatory luggage >>inspection at airports, courriers don't hide drugs in luggage. So, any
    cash they discovered in luggage or on the passenger's person was seized.

    Guilty property. Obviously it was either being used for a drugs purchase
    or was the proceeds of a drugs sale.

    I never understood why this was allowed.

    Because it's in common law, which was incorporated into state law. The
    real question is why federal courts ever recognized the cncept as common
    law had to be incorporated into federa law by statute.

    As BTR1701 keeps pointing out, if property is guilty, then it's entitled
    to all rights at arrest and at trial, especially the right to counsel.

    If there is a crime involved
    then that should be able to be proven in a court. Yet the whole point
    is the LEOs want to take the money without getting in to a legal
    challenge.

    Because the property is presumed to have committed a crime separate from
    its owner.

    . . .

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