• Re: Milk bars

    From frying air@3:633/10 to All on Fri Aug 28 10:31:15 2026
    On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 10:29:42 -0500
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/28/2026 6:03 AM, Uncle Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 10:16:53 GMT, dsi1
    <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.npr.org/2026/08/27/g-s1-139914/milk-rwanda-milk-bar

    While chocolate pairs wonderfully with milk, Tootsie Rolls
    (perhaps the shittiest chocolate confection ever devised) have
    nothing to do with Tutsis. You gotcher Hootoos, and you gotcher
    Tootsies. Den, you gotcher mashetties. Da Hootoos go to choppin'
    up dem Tootsies with dem mashetties.

    I used to work with a Tutsi. He told me that Hutus were no better
    than cockroaches, and that Black Americans who were descended
    from slaves were mostly lazy. Bigots come in all colors.

    Still, I get the whole milk bar thing. Cow's milk is delicious.

    I have never heard of such a thing but in this world, anything is
    possible. The very thought of downing a mug of milk sends shivers
    down my spine. There's no telling what could happen if I did that.

    Bigots come in all colors alright. The American bigots don't
    really hold a candle to the Chinese, Koreans, or Japanese. A lot
    of them have never even met a white person. They think Americans
    are big, sweaty, dark-colored, dumb, barbarians.

    Of the countries you mentioned, China is by far the most barbarian,
    without any competition.

    Americans *are* big. That's because we can afford to eat desirable
    foods, like MEAT.


    Not entirely so...

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC300778/

    Critser?s chronology of obesity-inducing events begins with a revie
    w of the factors that led to the increased availability and consumption of high-calorie, large-sized food in this country. In 1971, Richard Nixon nomi nated Earl Butz as Secretary of Agriculture. Butz lowered the trade barrier
    s that had limited the export of American products, which resulted in a mar
    ked increase in US corn and soybean production. At approximately the same t ime, Japanese food scientists produced a new sweetener, high-fructose corn syrup, which was less expensive and had a longer shelf life than sugar. New
    technology transformed palm oil into a viable and stable, but highly satur ated, commercial fat. Food manufacturers began to replace sugar and traditi onal fats in their products with high-fructose corn syrup and processed pal
    m oil, which led to an increase in inexpensive, energy-dense snack and conv enience foods. In the 1970s and 1980s, fast-food restaurants discovered the
    profitability of ?value meals? (e.g., packaging high-profi
    t drinks and french fries with low-profit burgers) and of ?supersiz
    ing? (e.g., tripling the serving size of McDonald?s french
    fries from 200 kcal in 1960 to 610 kcal today). Moreover, the percentage of
    meals eaten away from home doubled between the 1970s and the 1990s, and ea ting out usually meant eating more. Finally, school systems encouraged unhe althy eating practices among children by accepting soft drink and fast-food
    contracts because they provide large commissions for financially strapped schools.

    The increase in energy intake has been paralleled by a decrease in physical
    activity. Critser identifies the many barriers to activity in modern socie
    ty. Being active is no longer an obligatory part of daily function but rath
    er a conscious choice. In the 1980s, television viewing became the predomin
    ant form of leisure activity. Computers and computer games, sedentary jobs,
    long commutes, sprawling suburbs with no sidewalks, and unsafe neighborhoo
    ds limit our desire and ability to move. School budget cuts have resulted i
    n a reduction in sports teams and physical education classes; by the end of
    the 1980s, Illinois was the only state that required daily physical educat ion.

    However, Fat land fails to note that the increase in body weight in the US
    is not a recent phenomenon. The average body mass index (BMI) value has bee
    n increasing for more than 150 years. A large part of the ?recent
    ? obesity epidemic is due to a curve-shifting phenomenon. Now that
    the right tail of the bell-shaped curve for BMI in the US population has cr ossed the threshold for obesity (BMI of 30 kg/m2), small increases in avera
    ge BMI and rightward shifts of the curve mean a sharp increase in the numbe
    r of people considered obese. This does not diminish the importance of obes
    ity as a public health issue, but it does suggest that the current problem
    is largely regulated by environmental factors that affect the population as
    a whole.

    Although Critser carefully outlines the causes and consequences of obesity,
    his book ends with a naive discussion of what should be done. He cites suc cessful outcomes from anecdotes and selected research studies, but does not
    provide an evaluation of the entire literature, which portrays a less opti mistic picture. He devotes a lot of space to arguments for eliminating soft
    drink contracts in schools and increasing physical education but fails to note that many obese adults went to school in the 1960s and 1970s, when phy sical education was often mandatory and there were fewer soda vending machi nes.

    After identifying the environmental factors responsible for obesity and pot ential environmental solutions, Critser abruptly reverses course in the con cluding paragraphs of his book, implying that obese persons are ?gl
    uttonous? and ?slothful? and that more ?ind
    ividual will power? is needed. This surprise ending does not fit wi
    th the well-developed theme of the rest of the text. Although each of us mu
    st take responsibility for our health, it is difficult for many Americans t
    o achieve successful weight management because environmental influences are
    so strong.

    Fat land is an absorbing read that helps explain the complex factors that h
    ave led to the recent increase in obesity prevalence. In addition, it is an
    articulate wake-up call that makes the case for aggressive action now. Add itional research is needed to identify the optimal approaches for effective
    ly inducing lifestyle changes in people of different age groups, racial and
    ethnic populations, and socioeconomic backgrounds.



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  • From frying air@3:633/10 to All on Sun Aug 30 10:37:06 2026
    On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 03:35:00 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.npr.org/2026/08/27/g-s1-139914/milk-rwanda-milk-bar

    While chocolate pairs wonderfully with milk, Tootsie Rolls (perhaps
    the shittiest chocolate confection ever devised) have nothing to do
    with Tutsis. You gotcher Hootoos, and you gotcher Tootsies. Den,
    you gotcher mashetties. Da Hootoos go to choppin' up dem Tootsies
    with dem mashetties.

    I used to work with a Tutsi. He told me that Hutus were no better
    than cockroaches, and that Black Americans who were descended from
    slaves were mostly lazy. Bigots come in all colors.

    Still, I get the whole milk bar thing. Cow's milk is delicious.


    Milk bars could become popular in the future but the milk will have
    to be heavily drugged.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP157WMfOqo

    Korova Milk Bar (sp. captions) - one of the most predictive of films.

    The book by Anthony Burgess is worth a read too.


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  • From dsi1@3:633/10 to All on Sat Sep 5 11:39:37 2026

    frying air <hot@in.side> posted:

    On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 03:35:00 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.npr.org/2026/08/27/g-s1-139914/milk-rwanda-milk-bar

    While chocolate pairs wonderfully with milk, Tootsie Rolls (perhaps
    the shittiest chocolate confection ever devised) have nothing to do
    with Tutsis. You gotcher Hootoos, and you gotcher Tootsies. Den,
    you gotcher mashetties. Da Hootoos go to choppin' up dem Tootsies
    with dem mashetties.

    I used to work with a Tutsi. He told me that Hutus were no better
    than cockroaches, and that Black Americans who were descended from
    slaves were mostly lazy. Bigots come in all colors.

    Still, I get the whole milk bar thing. Cow's milk is delicious.


    Milk bars could become popular in the future but the milk will have
    to be heavily drugged.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP157WMfOqo

    Korova Milk Bar (sp. captions) - one of the most predictive of films.

    The book by Anthony Burgess is worth a read too.


    That music is for the funeral of a Queen. Here's music for the funeral of the common man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InyT9Gyoz_o






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  • From Damon Cloche@3:633/10 to All on Sat Sep 5 12:35:12 2026
    On Sat, 05 Sep 2026 11:39:37 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    frying air <hot@in.side> posted:

    On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 03:35:00 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    https://www.npr.org/2026/08/27/g-s1-139914/milk-rwanda-milk-bar

    While chocolate pairs wonderfully with milk, Tootsie Rolls
    (perhaps the shittiest chocolate confection ever devised) have
    nothing to do with Tutsis. You gotcher Hootoos, and you gotcher Tootsies. Den, you gotcher mashetties. Da Hootoos go to
    choppin' up dem Tootsies with dem mashetties.

    I used to work with a Tutsi. He told me that Hutus were no
    better than cockroaches, and that Black Americans who were
    descended from slaves were mostly lazy. Bigots come in all
    colors.

    Still, I get the whole milk bar thing. Cow's milk is delicious.


    Milk bars could become popular in the future but the milk will
    have to be heavily drugged.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP157WMfOqo

    Korova Milk Bar (sp. captions) - one of the most predictive of
    films.

    The book by Anthony Burgess is worth a read too.


    That music is for the funeral of a Queen. Here's music for the
    funeral of the common man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InyT9Gyoz_o


    @marybethbortz9916
    6 years ago
    For some reason, whenever I hear this song, I feel something in my
    soul. I cannot distinguish if it is pain or love, happiness or sadness.
    But I think the point is that it makes you feel.


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