• Totally Confused...

    From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to MRO on Sat Dec 20 19:19:00 2025

    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, MRO said:

    Re: Totally Confused... By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Sat Dec
    20 2025 03:16 pm

    Sorry, I expect things to work as documented and to be accessible to those with mental/emotional disabilities.


    if you had to deal with yourself, would you be happy with your error reporting ablilities?

    what you should do when having an issue is report what os you are running,

    what version of the software you are running, and provide screen captures
    of your configuration.

    your problems weren't really that bad. if you would have ran the latest version of synchronet and toggled off what you didn't want to see, it
    would have worked.

    Thank you MRO, you were uncharacteristically understanding... As far as I knew,I was running the latest version. I got it from the official website. Perhaps I'll try again.

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Digital Man on Sun Dec 21 00:45:00 2025

    Re: Totally Confused...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Sat Dec 20 2025 05:53 pm

    I added that and it still does the same thing. I gave up and am
    using
    an
    external server. This was quite unpleasant. I followed the
    instructions
    to the letter and it didn't work as stated.

    I agree: you've been quite unpleasant to deal with. Good riddance.
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    digital man (rob)

    Have you never dealt with a neuro-divergent individual?

    Of course I have.

    We can be difficult, but we totally mean well. Our brains don't work like normal people's, we don't think coherently or cohesively,
    but we can be highly intelligent. That's the only way we remain semi-lucid. I didn't mean to cause you difficulty, I just don't
    deal well when things don't work the way they
    are
    supposed to. In my case, it's the new user procedure that needs to be disabled. Every time I connect, it's as a new user and the real name
    isn't
    accepted as the same as the handle (sbbs simply reports that it's
    either a
    dupe or invalid) as I think it's only 1 word.

    And I told you how to disable that real name prompt.

    Ok, I just went through every message from you to me and didn't see that.
    Could you please tell me again?

    If you connect a second time with the same name, that wouldn't be another new user either, so "every time" sounds incorrect as well.

    It is forcing me to create a new user each time I connect because the real
    name is invalid or duplicate. It doesn't say which. I have multiple users with the same handle and different real names... That on it's own is confusing.

    I'd love to be able to get this to work, but until then I'll be semi-satisfied with using the anet online game server for individual games.

    Cool. I've never heard of it. Looks like it's running Synchronet: a-net-online.lol -- digital man (rob)


    Yep, he's got it working so I can use that until I can manage this. I would love to work with you on this and will try to calm down my idiosynchracies (sorry I couldn't remember how to spell that) so that I'm easier to deal
    with. He spent about 2 years to get his to the state that it's at. Rob
    McGee (x-bit) also has a game server. His just asks for username and
    location as well as mouse reporting and ansi on new user connection. I was hoping to get to that state. Exodus also has one set up so that people can access sbbs games from his Renegade. If that many people can use it, it shouldn't be as difficult as I've experienced. Perhaps they all used a newer version. I just went to the synchronet website, which seemed the logical
    place to get the latest version. I did read the game server wiki (thanks to Stringray for pointing me to that) and follow it's instructions before I had
    my melt-down.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Dec 21 03:13:52 2025
    Re: Totally Confused...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Sun Dec 21 2025 12:45 am

    supposed to. In my case, it's the new user procedure that needs to be disabled. Every time I connect, it's as a new user and the real name
    isn't
    accepted as the same as the handle (sbbs simply reports that it's
    either a
    dupe or invalid) as I think it's only 1 word.

    And I told you how to disable that real name prompt.

    Ok, I just went through every message from you to me and didn't see that. Could you please tell me again?

    Here are those instructions again, verbatim:

    You can eliminate that prompt entirely by creating the file ctrl/text.ini and adding the following line:
    EnterYourRealName = ""

    If you connect a second time with the same name, that wouldn't be another new user either, so "every time" sounds incorrect as well.

    It is forcing me to create a new user each time I connect because the real name is invalid or duplicate. It doesn't say which. I have multiple users with the same handle and different real names... That on it's own is confusing.

    That doesn't make sense - if the rlogin-supplied user name already exists in your BBS's userbase, the user will not go through another new user registration again. It sounds like you're specifying a different username for each new rlogin connection. Your BBS's terminal server log output would clarify what's happening. i.e. compare the server log output between 2 successive connections. If the first connection completes the new user registration process, then a second connection (with the same username) should not start a new user registration again.

    Cool. I've never heard of it. Looks like it's running Synchronet: a-net-online.lol -- digital man (rob)

    Yep, he's got it working so I can use that until I can manage this. I would love to work with you on this and will try to calm down my idiosynchracies (sorry I couldn't remember how to spell that) so that I'm easier to deal with. He spent about 2 years to get his to the state that it's at. Rob McGee (x-bit) also has a game server. His just asks for username and location as well as mouse reporting and ansi on new user connection. I was hoping to get to that state. Exodus also has one set up so that people can access sbbs games from his Renegade. If that many people can use it, it shouldn't be as difficult as I've experienced. Perhaps they all used a newer version.

    The "newer version" (actually *versions*) of logon.js just add some more options that some sysops requested and can enable, as documented, but aren't required for baisc game server functionality. The basic rlogin-game-server functionality has been in Synchronet's logon.js for a long time now and isn't that complex to setup.

    I just went to the synchronet website, which seemed the logical
    place to get the latest version. I did read the game server wiki (thanks to Stringray for pointing me to that) and follow it's instructions before I had my melt-down.

    The rlogin/game-server support in Synchronet is controlled via the exec/logon.js script. You can see the edit history of this script (and download the latest version of it) here:
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commits/master/exec/logon.js

    Or... you could upgrade to the latest development build of Synchronet (which includes an updated logon.js) by following the instructions here:
    https://wiki.synchro.net/install:dev
    That's also the *second* link on the "download" "Synchronet for Windows" option at "the synchronet website" (www.synchro.net).
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  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Dec 21 08:59:46 2025
    Hey Martin!

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 17:53:00 +0000, you wrote:

    I just don't deal well when things don't work the way they are
    supposed to. In my case, it's the new user procedure that needs to
    be disabled.

    It works just fine if you had a version of Synchronet installed that supported what you're trying to do!

    Every time I connect, it's as a new user and the real name isn't
    accepted as the same as the handle (sbbs simply reports that it's
    either a dupe or invalid) as I think it's only 1 word. I'd love to
    be able to get this to work, but until then I'll be semi-satisfied
    with using the anet online game server for individual games.

    This might have been addressed recently, if I remember right. But your Synchronet install would need to be updated to the latest. The instructions to do this are also on the wiki.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Dec 21 09:07:46 2025
    Hey Digital!

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 19:12:46 -0800, you wrote:

    Cool. I've never heard of it. Looks like it's running Synchronet: a-net-online.lol

    Aw jeez. *facepalm*

    Looks like the wiki worked for that sysop! :D

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Dec 21 09:11:32 2025
    Hey Martin!

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 19:19:00 +0000, you wrote:

    Thank you MRO, you were uncharacteristically understanding... As far as
    I knew,I was running the latest version. I got it from the official website. Perhaps I'll try again.

    You are running the latest full package installer (which is not updated daily). Right above that on the same page as the link for that installer, is "Development Update Instructions":

    https://wiki.synchro.net/install:dev

    Get the latest binaries in the "Pre-built Executables" section and follow those instructions. Don't forget to run "jsexec update". Don't do /anything/ else until you are fully updated to the latest version. Then, and only then.. go back and do what DM originally told you do in regards to your RLogin server thing.

    If after that you still have issues, bring them here and ask your questions a bit more respectfully, if that's possible.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Dec 21 16:19:59 2025
    Re: Totally Confused...
    By: Digital Man to Martin Kazmaier on Sat Dec 20 2025 07:12 pm

    games.

    Cool. I've never heard of it. Looks like it's running Synchronet: a-net-online.lol


    oh that's where he got 'stingray' from. that's the sysop.
    i asked what he meant when saying stingray and he didnt answer me.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Dec 21 16:21:48 2025
    Re: Totally Confused...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to MRO on Sat Dec 20 2025 07:19 pm

    Thank you MRO, you were uncharacteristically understanding...


    oh fuck off asshole. i've helped you several times over the years.
    MANY YEARS.

    go put on your helmet and eat your own shit.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Dec 21 16:23:44 2025
    Re: Totally Confused...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Sun Dec 21 2025 12:45 am

    Exodus also has one set up so that people can access sbbs games
    from his Renegade. If that many people can use it, it shouldn't

    OH, you mean exodus, that guy who claims to be the renegade developer?
    and has talked shit about synchronet for decades?
    he has a game server for synchronet, huh?
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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to MRO on Sun Dec 21 17:34:00 2025

    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, MRO said:

    Re: Totally Confused... By: Martin Kazmaier to MRO on Sat Dec 20 2025
    07:19 pm

    Thank you MRO, you were uncharacteristically understanding...


    oh fuck off asshole. i've helped you several times over the years.
    MANY YEARS.

    go put on your helmet and eat your own shit.

    Yes you have, but you're also known for being particularly crass. I was
    trying to be nice, not sarcastic. That was an honest thank you.

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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Dec 21 20:57:46 2025
    Re: Totally Confused...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to MRO on Sun Dec 21 2025 05:34 pm

    Thank you MRO, you were uncharacteristically understanding...


    oh fuck off asshole. i've helped you several times over the years.
    MANY YEARS.

    go put on your helmet and eat your own shit.

    Yes you have, but you're also known for being particularly crass. I was trying to be nice, not sarcastic. That was an honest thank you.

    MRO? crass? nawww

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