I am trying to setup Renegade v1.35 with OS/2 Warp 4 using SIO1.60D. I am having issues with telnet access to the board. When a call is sent through the modem answers with ATA and immediatly drops the connection. I have tried several answer strings but nothing seems to make a difference. I have SIO set up to use COM1 and COM2 as INTERNET. Has anyone tried this combination successfully?
Thanks!

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Hello doctor,

13 Sep 24 13:06, you wrote to All:

I am trying to setup Renegade v1.35 with OS/2 Warp 4 using SIO1.60D. I
am having issues with telnet access to the board. When a call is sent through the modem answers with ATA and immediatly drops the
connection. I have tried several answer strings but nothing seems to
make a difference. I have SIO set up to use COM1 and COM2 as INTERNET.
Has anyone tried this combination successfully? Thanks!

i am not sure what goes wrong, but try this in your config.sys to use sio
in dos sessions:

====
DEVICE=C:\SIO\SIO.SYS (COM1:57600,INTERNET:3F8,NONE:4,-) (COM2:57600,INTERNET:3E8,NONE:5,-)
====
(should be one line)

====
DEVICE=C:\SIO\VSIO.SYS
DEVICE=C:\SIO\VX00.SYS ====

i am using native os2 version with maximus, so i am not sure what can be wrong with a renegade installation :)

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I am trying to setup Renegade v1.35 with OS/2 Warp 4 using SIO1.60D. I
am having issues with telnet access to the board. When a call is sent through the modem answers with ATA and immediatly drops the
connection. I have tried several answer strings but nothing seems to
make a difference. I have SIO set up to use COM1 and COM2 as INTERNET.
Has anyone tried this combination successfully?
Thanks!

If you find a solution, let me know! I had the same problem, It seems
like a known issue (search 'reddit Renegade BBS under ARCAOS 5.1 -
connect problems').

An answer in that thread:
---
I finally got it working for an older Renegade (y2ka2) on OS/2 Warp with
SIO. The trick was to set Renegade's modem answer string to: ATA|~~

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I also seem to remember have success with ADF fossil driver and SIO
v1.6d. I may have also used TAME, per the Renegade docs.

Good luck!

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I am trying to setup Renegade v1.35 with OS/2 Warp 4 using SIO1.60D. I
am having issues with telnet access to the board. When a call is sent through the modem answers with ATA and immediatly drops the
connection. I have tried several answer strings but nothing seems to
make a difference. I have SIO set up to use COM1 and COM2 as INTERNET.
Has anyone tried this combination successfully?
Thanks!

If you find a solution, let me know! I had the same problem, It seems
like a known issue (search 'reddit Renegade BBS under ARCAOS 5.1 -
connect problems').

Did anyone ever try passing RG from a mailer? Back in the 90s when I was using OS/2, I always had FD answer the call and pass it to RG. This may be an issue for decades from the WFC screen.

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If you find a solution, let me know! I had the same problem, It seems
like a known issue (search 'reddit Renegade BBS under ARCAOS 5.1 -
connect problems').

An answer in that thread:
---
I finally got it working for an older Renegade (y2ka2) on OS/2 Warp with SIO. The trick was to set Renegade's modem answer string to: ATA|~~

---

Yep. I saw that post and tried the ATA|~~ with no luck. Thanks for your input. I may try a much older version and see if it works.

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If you find a solution, let me know! I had the same problem, It seems like a known issue (search 'reddit Renegade BBS under ARCAOS 5.1 - connect problems').

Did anyone ever try passing RG from a mailer? Back in the 90s when I
was using OS/2, I always had FD answer the call and pass it to RG.

I have D'Bridge. I guess I can try using it to answer the phone and pass to
the BBS.

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make a difference. I have SIO set up to use COM1 and COM2 as INTERNET Has anyone tried this combination successfully? Thanks!

i am not sure what goes wrong, but try this in your config.sys to use sio in dos sessions:

====
DEVICE=C:\SIO\SIO.SYS (COM1:57600,INTERNET:3F8,NONE:4,-) (COM2:57600,INTERNET:3E8,NONE:5,-)
====
(should be one line)

I set mine up the same way as yours and had the same results. I found a text file from Sean Dennis explaining how to use SIO1.60D with a copy of his config.sys and copied his config to mine. Same issue. It seems that SIO is doing what it is suppose to do but RG does not like it. I watched a Youtube video by The Serial Port where they set up RG with OS/2 Warp 4 and SIO 1.60D and they had issues until they changed to an older version of RG and their modem config to ATA|~~ and it started connecting.They were using old vintage hardware and I am using a VM. The VM could be the issue on my end. The next thing for me to try is using an old version of RG. I will have to re-watch the video to see what version they used. I seem to remember it was a 1.0 version with a Y2K update?

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I have D'Bridge. I guess I can try using it to answer the phone and
pass to
the BBS.

That would be interesting to see if it solved the problem. It'd nice to
run the recent RG release under OS/2 Warp 4 or ArcaOS.

On another note, PCBOARD (last 15.X update) runs pretty awesome out of
the box with OS/2 and SIO.

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I have D'Bridge. I guess I can try using it to answer the phone and pass to
the BBS.

That would be interesting to see if it solved the problem. It'd nice to run the recent RG release under OS/2 Warp 4 or ArcaOS.

Success! I use D'Bridge to pass to RG. My bbs command in D'Bridge is
cd \renegade
+renegade -B57600 -N1 -Q
This is with D'Bridge 4 and Rg v1.35 Dos.

On another note, PCBOARD (last 15.X update) runs pretty awesome out of
the box with OS/2 and SIO.

I have PCBOARD 15.4 that came with Gamesrv to use as a front end. It works fine under WInXP but I get a version error and refuses to load when i try it under OS/2 Warp 4. Which version have you had success with?

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Success! I use D'Bridge to pass to RG. My bbs command in D'Bridge is
cd \renegade
+renegade -B57600 -N1 -Q
This is with D'Bridge 4 and Rg v1.35 Dos.

Fantastic!

I have PCBOARD 15.4 that came with Gamesrv to use as a front end. It
works fine under WInXP but I get a version error and refuses to load
when i try it under OS/2 Warp 4. Which version have you had success
with?

I started with 15.3 (dpcb1521.zip) from the BBS Documentary site, got the
OS/2 native application working per the docs, then upgraded to 15.4.

http://software.bbsdocumentary.com/IBM/DOS/PCBOARD/

Lots of good stuff in this thread on Reddit titled:
"Help with VModem/PCBoard/SIO2k on OS/2"

Best,

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I started with 15.3 (dpcb1521.zip) from the BBS Documentary site, got the OS/2 native application working per the docs, then upgraded to 15.4.

http://software.bbsdocumentary.com/IBM/DOS/PCBOARD/

Lots of good stuff in this thread on Reddit titled:
"Help with VModem/PCBoard/SIO2k on OS/2"

Thanks for the tip. I will check it out next.

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I started with 15.3 (dpcb1521.zip) from the BBS Documentary site, got the OS/2 native application working per the docs, then upgraded to 15.4.

Unless I missed it, I didn't see that version. I downloaded dpcb1531.zip and tried to install it. Ran into the same problem I had with another version. During install after your name and password I get an error s_copy: unable to open file "c:\pcb\pcboard.ser" for copying. The file is in the directory and is 128k. I assume that is the serial number it is trying to load?

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Success! I use D'Bridge to pass to RG. My bbs command in D'Bridge is
cd \renegade
+renegade -B57600 -N1 -Q
This is with D'Bridge 4 and Rg v1.35 Dos.

Thanks for this, I just replicated on ArcaOS 5.1! However, I realize that
means it can only be a single node BBS, as the (virtual) COM port is
defined in D'Bridge? Is that correct?

Cheers,

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Thanks for this, I just replicated on ArcaOS 5.1! However, I realize that means it can only be a single node BBS, as the (virtual) COM port is defined in D'Bridge? Is that correct?

You paid for ArcaOS 5.1?

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You paid for ArcaOS 5.1?

I did. was pretty stoked when it came out. didn't renew though.

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On 26 Sep 2024, j0hnny a1pha said the following...

You paid for ArcaOS 5.1?

I did. was pretty stoked when it came out. didn't renew though.

Besides RG, what sre you using it for and on what hardware?

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You paid for ArcaOS 5.1?

I did. was pretty stoked when it came out. didn't renew though.

Besides RG, what sre you using it for and on what hardware?

Yeah, it was mostly BBS stuff -- I also have an instance of PCBOARD and Iniquity running. And just the pure nostalgia is a trigger for me, I
worked at a job in the early 90's where i had to use OS/2 ocassionally and
I really liked it.

Originally, I wanted to run a multi-node DOS-based BBS but didn't want to
run Windows or DOSBox + Linux, so OS/2 was fun to play around with. I
paid the $139 on impluse <yikes>.

I currently run ArcaOS on an old Thinkpad T43, and in virutalbox. I also
got Warp 4.5 running on that Thinkpad (with the help of a YouTube video,
kind of a pain). For running a BBS, it's 100% fine. Also had it running
on a more modern desktop PC build. It was a 'daily driver' for a hot
minute.

But at the end of the day, there's not much benefit (for me) to ArcaOS
unless you really need modern stuff like a browser or SMB server, or
support for modern hardware and larger screen resolutions. And it really screams on modern hardware, multi-processor, etc. But I think there's also
a copy of eComStation on Internet Archive...

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Originally, I wanted to run a multi-node DOS-based BBS but didn't want to run Windows or DOSBox + Linux, so OS/2 was fun to play around with. I
paid the $139 on impluse <yikes>.

I currently run ArcaOS on an old Thinkpad T43, and in virutalbox. I also got Warp 4.5 running on that Thinkpad (with the help of a YouTube video, kind of a pain). For running a BBS, it's 100% fine. Also had it running
on a more modern desktop PC build. It was a 'daily driver' for a hot minute.

What BBS package did you manage to get working under 4.5? I was playing around with this as well, and found VMODEM would throw and error about a DLL or some sort. Couldn't get passed that error. Also couldn't get Renegade to intialize modem...

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What BBS package did you manage to get working under 4.5? I was
playing around with this as well, and found VMODEM would throw and
error about a DLL or some sort. Couldn't get passed that error. Also couldn't get Renegade to intialize modem...

Yeah, Renegade most recent releases are a no-go on OS/2, unless you use something like D'Bridge to pass the connection. Older Y2K version of
Renegade apparently works tho:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrG2MUNneHc

I believe i had PCBOARD and AdeptX working on 4.5...



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Yeah, Renegade most recent releases are a no-go on OS/2, unless you use something like D'Bridge to pass the connection. Older Y2K version of Renegade apparently works tho:

I wonder why. If I still had an OS/2 box and people actually ran RG, I might care to dig into this. But the few people running RG, let along RG on OS/2 isn't worth looking into unless it something that stands out in the code.

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Yeah, Renegade most recent releases are a no-go on OS/2, unless you use something like D'Bridge to pass the connection. Older Y2K version of Renegade apparently works tho:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrG2MUNneHc

Got'cha.

Saw this as well.

Sounds like Renegade is best to be installed under windows with NetFoss and Net2BBS at this point.

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Sounds like Renegade is best to be installed under windows with NetFoss and Net2BBS at this point.

My recommendation.

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Hi Niter3,
In a message to J0Hnny A1Pha you wrote:

Sounds like Renegade is best to be installed under windows with
NetFoss and Net2BBS at this point.

Unless a native package there really is no reason to run OS/2 anymore.
I was the worlds biggest os/2 fanboy for a looong time, so for me to say this....

The GUI was lightyears ahead of it's time if you got into the whole thing, everything was an object, etc etc. It's just not worth the hassle anymore.
I miss OS/2 at times, but once I launch a VM and realize any "modern"
programs are just poorly ported linux programs, I quickly go back to
windows. WSL runs the linux apps I want perfectly.

Between dosbox, winevdm, and other tools you can run 16 bit stuff on
windows 11 without the hassle of a full virutal machine. ie: I'm writing
this using Sempoint which is a 16 bit windows 3.1 program on windows 11.

Basically I think the only choices in 2024 are Linux or Windows if you want things stable.

Shawn
P.S. I see I jumped around in my paragraphs... I'm not gonna fix it because
I'm too lazy. Sorry.


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Unless a native package there really is no reason to run OS/2 anymore.
I was the worlds biggest os/2 fanboy for a looong time, so for me to say this....

The GUI was lightyears ahead of it's time if you got into the whole
thing, everything was an object, etc etc. It's just not worth the
hassle anymore. I miss OS/2 at times, but once I launch a VM and realize any "modern" programs are just poorly ported linux programs, I quickly
go back to windows. WSL runs the linux apps I want perfectly.

Between dosbox, winevdm, and other tools you can run 16 bit stuff on windows 11 without the hassle of a full virutal machine. ie: I'm writing this using Sempoint which is a 16 bit windows 3.1 program on windows 11.

Basically I think the only choices in 2024 are Linux or Windows if you want things stable.

Appreciate your feedback,

This is lining up with my findings so far..

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