Just want to confirm before I wipe ArakNet.

Is everyone else removing it from their systems since there seems to be no response?

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Just want to confirm before I wipe ArakNet.

Is everyone else removing it from their systems since there seems to be no response?

Already did a month ago.

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Just want to confirm before I wipe ArakNet.

Is everyone else removing it from their systems since there seems to be
no response?

I've archived it @ 2oFB. :/

Pretty sad - I kept the FTN settings, but can't keep pushing a dead horse to new users...



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niter3 wrote to All <=-

Just want to confirm before I wipe ArakNet.

Is everyone else removing it from their systems since there seems to be
no response?

Yep, gone on realitycheckBBS. I've been holding on for some time, even
reached out to Smooth a couple of times, to be ghosted later.

I think the net 101 boards are talking to each other, and maybe net 103,
but the nets aren't talking to each other. it's effectively a couple of
small, disconnected networks.

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paulie420 wrote to niter3 <=-

I've archived it @ 2oFB. :/

Pretty sad - I kept the FTN settings, but can't keep pushing a dead
horse to new users...

Yeah, I cleared out Araknet and some other nets as well that weren't
active, going to be steering callers to 0Net and FSXnet. Going to trim
the Fido areas based on the active list, I have groups that I used to be
active in back in the day that are just empty echoes now.




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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to paulie420 <=-

Yeah, I cleared out Araknet and some other nets as well that weren't active, going to be steering callers to 0Net and FSXnet. Going to trim
the Fido areas based on the active list, I have groups that I used to
be active in back in the day that are just empty echoes now.

Why'd you leave MicroNet? It's somewhat active.



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Re: Re: ArakNet
By: paulie420 to niter3 on Sun Nov 09 2025 15:53:12

Just want to confirm before I wipe ArakNet.
Is everyone else removing it from their systems since there seems to be
no response?

I've archived it @ 2oFB. :/
Pretty sad - I kept the FTN settings, but can't keep pushing a dead horse to new users...

What happened to ArakNet? I have not been a part of it. Just curious.

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On 10 Nov 2025, Mindsurfer said the following...

Re: Re: ArakNet
By: paulie420 to niter3 on Sun Nov 09 2025 15:53:12

What happened to ArakNet? I have not been a part of it. Just curious.

When I was getting my source recovered for Legion RPG, a project door game of mine I've been working on from smooth, I heard something about Ink2 and Araknet. Smooth mentioned his system had a crash, that was about a month
ago, he said he'd be bringing it back. I'll be keeping it on my system for awhile so I won't lose anything. I'm not sure the anticipated time he'll be back. He also said he'd like to get back into drawing, so we might see some more creative stuff from him. Note, holidays are coming up and he has kids
and stuff so it might be hard to get ahold of him. I'll try throughout the week to see if I can get anymore news on the eta and status and if I get time and remember, I'll let you guys know.

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Re: Re: ArakNet
By: cr1mson to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 10 2025 10:32 pm

When I was getting my source recovered for Legion RPG, a project door game of mine I've been working on from smooth, I heard something about Ink2 and Araknet. Smooth mentioned his system had a crash, that was about a month

You should always make backups of your stuff in case anything like that happens.

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Araknet. Smooth mentioned his system had a crash, that was about a month ago, he said he'd be bringing it back. I'll be keeping it on my system for

He said that in July and people OFFERED to buy him a new PC, and it fell on deaf ears.

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On 10 Nov 2025, Nightfox said the following...

Re: Re: ArakNet
By: cr1mson to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 10 2025 10:32 pm

When I was getting my source recovered for Legion RPG, a project door of mine I've been working on from smooth, I heard something about Ink Araknet. Smooth mentioned his system had a crash, that was about a m

You should always make backups of your stuff in case anything like that happens.

As easy as that's said, it's commonly overmissed as time varies for each backup. I'm not aware if he had any current backups of the work he put in
it. With a hardware failure, he would have had to put it on another drive or even external drive if that.

For me, with very low bandwidth, it takes many hours to get one backup done
and would require the board to be down during that time so I wouldn't miss
any incoming packets of sorts. I do like making backups and thankfully, he
did have a backup of my Legion RPG project and yet, I found an even later release source I made on one of my OneDrive accounts so that worked out well for me.

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cr1mson wrote to Mindsurfer <=-

What happened to ArakNet? I have not been a part of it. Just curious.

When I was getting my source recovered for Legion RPG, a project door
game of mine I've been working on from smooth, I heard something about Ink2 and Araknet. Smooth mentioned his system had a crash, that was
about a month ago, he said he'd be bringing it back. I'll be keeping
it on my system for awhile so I won't lose anything. I'm not sure the anticipated time he'll be back. He also said he'd like to get back
into drawing, so we might see some more creative stuff from him. Note, holidays are coming up and he has kids and stuff so it might be hard to get ahold of him. I'll try throughout the week to see if I can get anymore news on the eta and status and if I get time and remember, I'll let you guys know.

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cr1mson wrote to Nightfox <=-

When I was getting my source recovered for Legion RPG, a project door of mine I've been working on from smooth, I heard something about Ink Araknet. Smooth mentioned his system had a crash, that was about a m

You should always make backups of your stuff in case anything like that happens.

As easy as that's said, it's commonly overmissed as time varies for
each backup.

It's "commonly overmissed" (?) by *who*? Certainly not me.

I'm not aware if he had any current backups of the work
he put in it. With a hardware failure, he would have had to put it on another drive or even external drive if that.

Well..... yeah... putting it on the same drive doesn't even qualify as
a backup. It MUST be on another drive, preferably in a different
computer, and then again as another copy in a different
building/location. You didn't know this?


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On 10 Nov 2025, Dreamweaver said the following...

Araknet. Smooth mentioned his system had a crash, that was about a mon ago, he said he'd be bringing it back. I'll be keeping it on my system

He said that in July and people OFFERED to buy him a new PC, and it fell on deaf ears.

Well, I had heard about it not until late September as I was still in the hospital July. So I will see if I can get ahold of him. I might have some work for him to do for me so he might be prone to respon to me quicker. I don't know about his PC condition, I do know is kids play on his PC thats hooked up to his Discord from a conversation I had. I think he'll be back,
we just got to be patient.

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On 10 Nov 2025, Gamgee said the following...

cr1mson wrote to Nightfox <=-

You should always make backups of your stuff in case anything like th happens.

As easy as that's said, it's commonly overmissed as time varies for each backup.

It's "commonly overmissed" (?) by *who*? Certainly not me.

For people that have slow connections, limited on hard drive space, slower computers or anything like that. Everyone is not equal unfortunately.

I'm not aware if he had any current backups of the work
he put in it. With a hardware failure, he would have had to put it o another drive or even external drive if that.

Well..... yeah... putting it on the same drive doesn't even qualify as
a backup. It MUST be on another drive, preferably in a different computer, and then again as another copy in a different building/location. You didn't know this?

Not everyone has another computer to access, a different building to put it
in or whatever. Of course I now this, but funding is limited as I've been moving around a lot and expenses and this is a hobby and provided as a
service for people to enjoy. Just enjoy it.

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Re: Re: ArakNet
By: poindexter FORTRAN to niter3 on Mon Nov 10 2025 07:56:06

I think the net 101 boards are talking to each other, and maybe net 103,
but the nets aren't talking to each other. it's effectively a couple of small, disconnected networks.

Sounds like if someone in 101 and someone in 103 decided to connect to each other, then there'd be one slightly larger network?
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Re: Re: ArakNet
By: poindexter FORTRAN to paulie420 on Mon Nov 10 2025 07:56:06

Yeah, I cleared out Araknet and some other nets as well that weren't
active, going to be steering callers to 0Net and FSXnet. Going to trim
the Fido areas based on the active list, I have groups that I used to be active in back in the day that are just empty echoes now.

MEMORIES used to be one of the more active echoes I carried. Something happened to the moderator and it died back. I tried posting a few things there and now there is some traffic, but not like it was.

I suspect that some echoes have people monitoring/lurking and others don't.
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Re: Re: ArakNet
By: Gamgee to cr1mson on Mon Nov 10 2025 21:12:29

I was just walking along behind this bull, and now I think I stepped in something.

That seems to happen a lot these days. ;)
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cr1mson wrote to Gamgee <=-

You should always make backups of your stuff in case anything like th happens.

As easy as that's said, it's commonly overmissed as time varies for each backup.

It's "commonly overmissed" (?) by *who*? Certainly not me.

For people that have slow connections, limited on hard drive space,
slower computers or anything like that. Everyone is not equal unfortunately.

Well I suppose that is true.

I'm not aware if he had any current backups of the work
he put in it. With a hardware failure, he would have had to put it o another drive or even external drive if that.

Well..... yeah... putting it on the same drive doesn't even qualify as
a backup. It MUST be on another drive, preferably in a different computer, and then again as another copy in a different
building/location. You didn't know this?

Not everyone has another computer to access, a different building to
put it in or whatever.

Again true, but... If I was the author of a software project, I would *surely* have found the time to at least put the data on a thumbdrive or something similar. I honestly don't see how someone would *not* do
that. <SHRUG>




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Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Why'd you leave MicroNet? It's somewhat active.

It was time. I'd been in it for some time.


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Dumas Walker wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Sounds like if someone in 101 and someone in 103 decided to connect to each other, then there'd be one slightly larger network?

Yeah, I don't know if Smooth runs them and they're on autopilot or if
they are run by other sysops.



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cr1mson wrote to Mindsurfer <=-

What happened to ArakNet? I have not been a part of it. Just curious.

When I was getting my source recovered for Legion RPG, a project door
game of mine I've been working on from smooth, I heard something about Ink2 and Araknet. Smooth mentioned his system had a crash, that was
about a month ago, he said he'd be bringing it back.

That was the latest crash. I started trying to get a hold of Smooth
when my hub went down in August of 2024.


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cr1mson wrote to Gamgee <=-

For people that have slow connections, limited on hard drive space,
slower computers or anything like that. Everyone is not equal unfortunately.

I'm stuck on a cable connection with a slow upload speed, would love to
get symmetric internet so I can upload backups to the cloud...


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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to cr1mson <=-

For people that have slow connections, limited on hard drive space,
slower computers or anything like that. Everyone is not equal unfortunately.

I'm stuck on a cable connection with a slow upload speed, would love
to get symmetric internet so I can upload backups to the cloud...

You can do that on any cable connection.

Schedule a task to do it at 3:00am or something.



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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-

Why'd you leave MicroNet? It's somewhat active.

It was time. I'd been in it for some time.

That seems strange. Didn't realize there was a time issue with FTN's.

<SHRUG>



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Re: Re: ArakNet
By: cr1mson to Nightfox on Tue Nov 11 2025 01:21 am

You should always make backups of your stuff in case anything like that
happens.

As easy as that's said, it's commonly overmissed as time varies for each backup. I'm not aware if he had any current backups of the work he put in it. With a hardware failure, he would have had to put it on another drive or even external drive if that.

It sucks to lose work though, so making backups is part of the process.

For me, with very low bandwidth, it takes many hours to get one backup done and would require the board to be down during that time so I wouldn't miss any incoming packets of sorts.

I may be old-fashioned, but I copy my BBS backups to a USB flash drive; my internet bandwith doesn't really matter.. It doesn't take very long - My BBS is down for only a few minutes while it's archived, then I copy the archive to my USB drive. I don't really feel like there's a need to pay for cloud storage and use the bandwidth it takes to back up my BBS that way.

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Re: Re: ArakNet
By: cr1mson to Gamgee on Tue Nov 11 2025 03:53 am

It's "commonly overmissed" (?) by *who*? Certainly not me.

For people that have slow connections, limited on hard drive space, slower computers or anything like that. Everyone is not equal unfortunately.

Why would your internet connection speed be a concern for making a backup? A backup can be simply copying it to an external drive. And if what you need to back up doesn't take up much space, USB flash drives are fairly inexpensive, too.

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Re: Re: ArakNet
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Nov 11 2025 12:20 pm

I'm stuck on a cable connection with a slow upload speed, would love to
get symmetric internet so I can upload backups to the cloud...

You can do that on any cable connection.

Yeah, but 7 TB of data with a 30mbps upload connection and a 1tb bandwidth cap makes it time-consuming and expensive. :(
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On 11 Nov 2025, Nightfox said the following...

Re: Re: ArakNet
By: cr1mson to Nightfox on Tue Nov 11 2025 01:21 am

It sucks to lose work though, so making backups is part of the process.

Yeah, common sense would tell you to make backups, although after it can be tedious, you'd make a backup, then in about 30 minutes there'd be a change in the system where you need to make another backup so it's like a never ending cycle. At least getting a recent backup copy would be the way to go and make the changes again if needed.

I may be old-fashioned, but I copy my BBS backups to a USB flash drive;
my internet bandwith doesn't really matter.. It doesn't take very long
- My BBS is down for only a few minutes while it's archived, then I copy the archive to my USB drive. I don't really feel like there's a need to pay for cloud storage and use the bandwidth it takes to back up my BBS that way.

Nothing wrong with using USB flash drive storage, that's not a bad way to go. My bandwidth is terrible as I have about 150KB/sec with 5-6GB to download and upload with every backup. I can't say for others though. My hope is just to make a backup when I can and not really play around too much and just make changes as needed. Cloud storage isn't too bad as I use OneDrive and get the first 5GB or so free to store my programming projects. It is a form of
backup though and good for a more permanent backup if needed.

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On 11 Nov 2025, Nightfox said the following...

Re: Re: ArakNet
By: cr1mson to Gamgee on Tue Nov 11 2025 03:53 am

Why would your internet connection speed be a concern for making a
backup? A backup can be simply copying it to an external drive. And if what you need to back up doesn't take up much space, USB flash drives
are fairly inexpensive, too.

Because I store my BBS on a server outside my home that I can physically get
to so I have to use the ssh in to backup, download/upload as needed. Making
a backup on more than one source wouldn't be a bad idea either.

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Nightfox wrote to cr1mson <=-

Re: Re: ArakNet
By: cr1mson to Gamgee on Tue Nov 11 2025 03:53 am

It's "commonly overmissed" (?) by *who*? Certainly not me.

For people that have slow connections, limited on hard drive space, slower computers or anything like that. Everyone is not equal unfortunately.

Why would your internet connection speed be a concern for making a
backup? A backup can be simply copying it to an external drive. And if what you need to back up doesn't take up much space, USB flash drives
are fairly inexpensive, too.

Not to mention, a complete backup is not needed every night. Using an incremental (changed files only) with something like 'rsync' takes
literally seconds.

Long story short, there really is no reason to not have backups of
important stuff.



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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: ArakNet
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Nov 11 2025 12:20 pm

I'm stuck on a cable connection with a slow upload speed, would love to
get symmetric internet so I can upload backups to the cloud...

You can do that on any cable connection.

Yeah, but 7 TB of data with a 30mbps upload connection and a 1tb
bandwidth cap makes it time-consuming and expensive. :(

Well, I thought we were talking about nightly BBS backups or something.

Sounds like you're talking about a media server or similar. I recently
bought a couple of 8TB Seagate Barracuda 3.5" SATA spinning rust drives
for that very purpose. Slap them in an unused tower or something, or
even connect them via a USB3-to-SATA adapter to an active computer, and
let it rip. It's not "cloud" storage, but it's a safety copy. Getting
that much capacity in the cloud would indeed be expensive, irregardless
of connection speed or bandwidth caps. Works for me.



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Re: Re: ArakNet
By: cr1mson to Nightfox on Tue Nov 11 2025 10:46 pm

It sucks to lose work though, so making backups is part of the process.

Yeah, common sense would tell you to make backups, although after it can be tedious, you'd make a backup, then in about 30 minutes there'd be a change in the system where you need to make another backup so it's like a never ending cycle. At least getting a recent backup copy would be the way to go and make the changes again if needed.

If I'm actively working on something on my BBS and I want to do a backup soon, usually I'll wait until I'm done working on it for the day, and then do the backup.

Nightfox
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Re: Re: ArakNet
By: cr1mson to Nightfox on Tue Nov 11 2025 10:47 pm

Why would your internet connection speed be a concern for making a
backup? A backup can be simply copying it to an external drive. And if

Because I store my BBS on a server outside my home that I can physically get to so I have to use the ssh in to backup, download/upload as needed. Making a backup on more than one source wouldn't be a bad idea either.

If you're able to physically get to it, as you say, I wouldn't see a problem with making a backup onto a USB flash drive. I'm not sure why you'd necessarily _have_ to do the backup via SSH if you can physically get to it.

Nightfox
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Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Sounds like you're talking about a media server or similar. I recently bought a couple of 8TB Seagate Barracuda 3.5" SATA spinning rust drives for that very purpose. Slap them in an unused tower or something, or
even connect them via a USB3-to-SATA adapter to an active computer, and let it rip. It's not "cloud" storage, but it's a safety copy. Getting that much capacity in the cloud would indeed be expensive, irregardless
of connection speed or bandwidth caps. Works for me.

Combined storage - I have a Synology NAS that has the ability to back up
to the cloud. That Synology backs up my Proxmox server and VMs, then for
media I have them on a local hard disk. That's mirrored to the Synology,
which backs it up to an external drive. If I lose my house, I'll lose my
data - but that would be the least of my worries... :(



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