It's pride at still being alive, still standing, still living an authen life, despite a group of people going out of their way to be awful abou
That is NOT what is being celebrated for this "month". Trust me.
NuSkooler wrote to Exodus <=-
Fun fact: Vetrans month is all of November. National Military
Appreciation Month is also all of May.
Mike Powell wrote to boxoskulz <=-
I do believe that is covered by the "Q+" part of LGBTQ+ Pride Month,
which is why he quasi-sarcastically brought it up.
Exodus wrote to Mike Powell <=-
I have tons of gay friends and co-workers.
Exodus wrote to Mike Powell <=-
Then we get into the where's the WHITE pride month. Oh thats racist.
But Black pride month isn't? Yeah, love those double standards these groups have. :(
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to NuSkooler <=-
NuSkooler wrote to Exodus <=-
Fun fact: Vetrans month is all of November. National Military
Appreciation Month is also all of May.
STOP letting FACTS get in the way of ARGUMENTS!
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Exodus <=-
Exodus wrote to Mike Powell <=-
Then we get into the where's the WHITE pride month. Oh thats racist.
But Black pride month isn't? Yeah, love those double standards these groups have. :(
That's every other month out of the year.
Anyway, I should stop feeding the troll / bigot.
I have tons of gay friends and co-workers.
No, you don't.
Got to say that I'm well aware of Veteran's Day on November 11th, but
not familiar with "Veterans Month" being all of November. I don't think there is any such thing (at least here in the USA).
Got to say that I'm well aware of Veteran's Day on November 11th, but not familiar with "Veterans Month" being all of November. I don't think there is any such thing (at least here in the USA).
That's every other month out of the year.That's a cop-out, and a non-answer. Also a lie.
Exodus wrote to Gamgee <=-
Got to say that I'm well aware of Veteran's Day on November 11th, but
not familiar with "Veterans Month" being all of November. I don't think there is any such thing (at least here in the USA).
I've never heard of it, and have Veterans in my family.
NuSkooler wrote to Gamgee <=-
Got to say that I'm well aware of Veteran's Day on November 11th, but
not familiar with "Veterans Month" being all of November. I don't think there is any such thing (at least here in the USA).
November is recognized as "Veterans and Military Families Month" in the United States, honoring the sacrifices made by military families and veterans. Established in 1996 and is acknowledged every year with a presidential proclamation.
NuSkooler wrote to Gamgee <=-
That's a cop-out, and a non-answer. Also a lie.
The point is that it is the question that is nonsense.
Straight whites are easily the most priviledged in the US, by far.
Speaking as a
straight white dude, as well as numerous studies across time and displines. And here's another fun fact for you: YOU TOO can celebrate Pride, that doesn't make you gay, in case you're worried. Lots of us straight dudes do. You'd be celebrating equality, nothing more. Same
with BLM, same with many things. I guess you might say, you DO get some "white pride" time, since Pride in fact, INCLUDES you.
I haven't heard of it either, and served 28 years in the USN...
I did some checking, and what he's referring to is actually called "Military Family Appreciation Month", and does run during all of
November. Obviously *related* to veterans, but that word isn't part of
the correct title.
I guess I have actually heard of that now that I think about it, but it's one of those "celebrations" which is VERY low-key and doesn't have any social media whackos making a spectacle of it, which is good.
The point is that it is the question that is nonsense. Straight whites areeasily the most priviledged in the US, by far. Speaking as a straight white dude, as well as numerous studies across time and displines. And here's another fun fact for you: YOU TOO can celebrate Pride, that doesn't make you gay, in case you're worried. Lots of us straight dudes do. You'd be celebrating equality, nothing more. Same with BLM, same with many things. I guess you might say, you DO get some "white pride" time, since Pride in fact, INCLUDES you.
Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
STOP letting FACTS get in the way of ARGUMENTS!
Got to say that I'm well aware of Veteran's Day on November 11th, but
not familiar with "Veterans Month" being all of November. I don't
think there is any such thing (at least here in the USA).
Gamgee wrote to NuSkooler <=-
November is recognized as "Veterans and Military Families Month" in the United States, honoring the sacrifices made by military families and veterans. Established in 1996 and is acknowledged every year with a presidential proclamation.
I did some looking, and here are a couple of corrections:
It's correct title is "Military Family Appreciation Month". It was established in 1993, and is indeed acknowledged by the President/government every year.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-
STOP letting FACTS get in the way of ARGUMENTS!
Got to say that I'm well aware of Veteran's Day on November 11th, but
not familiar with "Veterans Month" being all of November. I don't
think there is any such thing (at least here in the USA).
https://www.usar.army.mil/news/images/igphoto/2003577555/
Everyone assumes that all white people have "white privilege," whatever that is.
Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
My comment above said I didn't think there was anything called
"Veterans Month".
See the difference? Yep. There *ISN'T* a "Veterans Month".
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-
Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
My comment above said I didn't think there was anything called
"Veterans Month".
See the difference? Yep. There *ISN'T* a "Veterans Month".
So, there's a month celebrating veterans, but it's not called
"Veteran's Month". You have me in a semantic corner. Well played, Sir!
We also have Black Pride Month, Asian Pride Month, and Latin American P
"Month" (actually 5 or 6 weeks long) but, yes, this is the one that fol
social media sure make the most noise about.
Then we get into the where's the WHITE pride month. Oh thats racist. But Black pride month isn't? Yeah, love those double standards these groups have. :(
I have tons of gay friends and co-workers. I can care less. Don't flaunt it around for a month. Maybe I should make August "I fucked
wife in the ass month" and talk about it all month and force everythi
to go oh wow, so happy for you.
When you can't get a job, your community exiles you, your government
takes away right, etc. based on said activities, let us know.
boraxman wrote to NuSkooler <=-
When you can't get a job, your community exiles you, your government
takes away right, etc. based on said activities, let us know.
I'm pretty sure I've been discriminated against BECAUSE I am a White
Male. Companies do it routinely. In fact, for many, it is a policy.
Everyone assumes that all white people have "white privilege," whatever that is. I have heard in past that it might be linked to "generational wealth."
You can celebrate "White Pride Month" anytime you like. Start the tradition before it become official.
I'm pretty sure I've been discriminated against BECAUSE I am a White Male. Companies do it routinely. In fact, for many, it is a policy.
Take a look around at some of the *obvious* "DEI hires" who are completely incompetent, and then say that it isn't true. Yup.
When you can't get a job, your community exiles you, your government takes away right, etc. based on said activities, let us know.
Anyway, you may disagree with the concept, but I always hope that people can understand that "white privilege" isn't about _special_ rights, or being rich, or whatever, it's about the set of things you _don't_ see or notice, because you don't have to deal with it.
But it's a concept with a stupid name, so that things get confused, like when people talk about "theory" in scientific and non-scientific contexts.
Male. Companies do it routinely. In fact, for many, it is a policy.
Nah, you haven't. Maybe you're just incompetent in your job?
You bring up your viewpoint as fact and when somebody shares an experience you shut it down in a condescending way. That does not lead to anybody learning anything.
The problem I have with the idea is that for nearly a decade a number of sectors have been affected by "Progressive Privilege" and if you didn't follow the party line you would have to deal with a lot of crap. Crap
you don't deal with if you follow the Party Line.
Arelor wrote to NuSkooler <=-
Male. Companies do it routinely. In fact, for many, it is a policy.
Nah, you haven't. Maybe you're just incompetent in your job?
That is the problem right there.
You bring up your viewpoint as fact and when somebody shares an
experience you shut it down in a condescending way. That does not lead
to anybody learning anything.
Yes, that's NuSkooler's way. He (and only he) *KNOWS* *ALL* and is
always correct. Also gets easily offended when a soft insult comes at
Yep. It's like they feed on this stuff.
And you don't???
"Do as I say, not as I do". Right?
Re: Re: Happy pride month! (to those who cel
By: NuSkooler to boraxman on Mon Jun 08 2026 11:32 am
Male. Companies do it routinely. In fact, for many, it is a policy.
Nah, you haven't. Maybe you're just incompetent in your job?
That is the problem right there.
You bring up your viewpoint as fact and when somebody shares an experience you shut it down in a condescending way. That does not lead to anybody learning anything.
On Tuesday, June 9th Arelor muttered...
You bring up your viewpoint as fact and when somebody shares an experience you shut it down in a condescending way. That does not lead to
anybody learning anything.
I have zero want to discuss "viewpoints" with openly racist biggots. Yall are clearly online, which brings a wealth of information to you, but you choose to call it "fake" or whatever, so oh well.
Yes, that's NuSkooler's way. He (and only he) *KNOWS* *ALL* and is always correct. Also gets easily offended when a soft insult comes at him, but is quick to throw them out himself (see above).
I'm pretty sure I've been discriminated against BECAUSE I am a White Male. Companies do it routinely. In fact, for many, it is a policy.
Nah, you haven't. Maybe you're just incompetent in your job?
The problem I have with the idea is that for nearly a decade a number of sectors have been affected by "Progressive Privilege" and if you didn't follow the party line you would have to deal with a lot of crap. Crap
you don't deal with if you follow the Party Line.
"Check your privilege" gets tiresome when you witness employment recruitment processes that pick based on ethnic quotas and, after you
see a number of your demographic group not make the cut because HR preferred to pick members from a protected minority instead, then you still get told your group is privileged and to check your privilege and then eat shit and die. By the way, HP, I am looking at you and you have still not paid the price of all your outsourcings in full.
I've been explicitely told that by other managers who were in the process of hiring. They were literally told that they are strongly, strongly recommended to hire based on "diversity" over merit.
And I'm not incompetent, I manage a team now.
I've been told TO MY FACE by people who hire that there is a 'reverse racism' imposed by HR. there are people who expose this form within companies. It is literaly WRITTEN COMPANY POLICY, but if you mention it, you're treated as if you are imagining it, and that you are the bad guy.
And I'm not incompetent, I manage a team now.
So does my 16 y/o. lol, but I'll take your word for it.
Oh I have zero doubt that it *has* happened, of course it has. But it's
by far not what DEI is designed or intended for, nor how it plays out
most of the time -- Most of the time, it works as intended, which is great.
I've had my superior tell me not to hire a woman before, too, because... she was a woman. But I happen to have a pair and told them where to go.
So there you go, we both have a ancedotal occurance!
So does my 16 y/o. lol, but I'll take your word for it.
Somehow you don't grasp that this is just an ancdeotal incident, though. Statisticlly, this is not the case at all.
Sounds like the company you work for is full of a lot of morons that
need sued into oblivion.
The issue is that it creates an incentive structure which necessitates a racial/sexual bias to remain complaint.
Actually, one way companies increase their female management is to just create bogus "manager" jobs, i.e, rename someone working on their own as a "manager", and then this increases the female manager metric.
If multiple people are reporting the same thing, independently, in different places, that is, seeing the same issue come up and correlate, then "anectode" becomes "Evidence".
I agree fully with you here that it *can* create a incentive structure - but if it has, the company has implemented it wrong.
The same strucutre you cite already exists *without* DEI, but it's the polar opposite, resulting in racism, misogyny, etc. Hell, half the
people here make it VERY clear they would not hire someone they deem as LGBTQ+. DEI combats that.
Is it perfect? Hell no. Is it better than the alternative (ie: nothing)? Hell yes. Instead of being "anti-DEI", be "anti-abuse". ALL of our
systems are abused in some way or another -- that's the game. There is always persons out there ready to exploit/abuse/whatever any system in place. The key is to iterate and revise, not destroy.
On Saturday, June 13th boraxman said...
Actually, one way companies increase their female management is to jus
create bogus "manager" jobs, i.e, rename someone working on their own
a "manager", and then this increases the female manager metric.
I've seen this play out in a million ways over my career, but replace "female" with whatever you like. Bad people game the system to make themselves look good. Nothing new. (Bad) Managers do this with or
without DEI.
If multiple people are reporting the same thing, independently, in different places, that is, seeing the same issue come up and correlate, then "anectode" becomes "Evidence".
The "merit driven" society is over, we are going to become and more and more defined by what group we identify by.
more defined by what group we identify by.
The more you deversify, the less this is true. "Melting pots" have always shown this to be the case while nationalism and the like produces said groups.
And please stop with the politics talk. I was hoping we were done with it.Sadly we are in a polarized society.
So many other nice conversations going on, without any mention of politicians.
discuss focing values on others, I feel forced to respond kindly to
"Thank you
for your service," to maintain societal norms when the truthful response would
be "I didn't do it for you."
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