Hello everybody!

*not a very happy user follows*

I am hgaving a ton on issues with mail routing and apparently, as per the book *it's my config*.

I have setup everything as a normal person would do, checked the docs and I have 3 node addresses

FSX: 21:3/188
Fido: 3:633/2744.188
Micronet: 618:500/67

All have uplinks to a hub which sometimes works sometimes gives me *auth failed*, same details and all that.

I setup golded with the following:

// Your FTN-style address and akas.
ADDRESS 21:3/188 ; FSX Net.
AKA 3:633/2744.188 ; A sysop point.
;AKA 3:633/2744.188@fidonet.org ; A point address with domain ("5D").
AKA 618:500/67 ; Micronet.

FSX is the only thing working, micronet pols the system but my uplink very kindly tells me *it's your system I'm a massive hub and all works fine here, I don't belive how can you poll my system and you're showing your micronet AKA*

FOrfido I get tons of automated messages telling me mail was rejected because this or that which by looking at my config don't make sense.

You can sense my frusdtration and annoyance with all this, I mean it cannot be all my config and I'm sure of that,

Note: *if your answer is not pointed to help, please dont't*. and I know this message may get read but probably not replied so...

I'm giving this a last chance and I hope someone can point me in the right direction.

Regards.

David


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Hello David!

22 Oct 24 08:04, you wrote to all:

I am hgaving a ton on issues with mail routing and apparently, as per
the book *it's my config*.

I have setup everything as a normal person would do, checked the docs
and I have 3 node addresses

FSX: 21:3/188
Fido: 3:633/2744.188
Micronet: 618:500/67

[...]

Post a log file sample and what your config setup is. Without that information no one will be able to help.




Vorlon


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Hello Vorlon!

23 Oct 24 11:18, you wrote to me:

Hello David!

22 Oct 24 08:04, you wrote to all:

I am hgaving a ton on issues with mail routing and apparently, as
per the book *it's my config*.

I have setup everything as a normal person would do, checked the
docs and I have 3 node addresses

FSX: 21:3/188
Fido: 3:633/2744.188
Micronet: 618:500/67

[...]

Post a log file sample and what your config setup is. Without that information no one will be able to help.

I finally got it sorted out making some bad blood in the process ...

I think I'm going to try EleBBS too, not ditching mystic but I've heard its BinkD implementation is buggy -- not said by me --

I couln't find a good source of info or answer to my question on editing menus and translating them, but I'll leave that for another thread.


David


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David Gonzalez wrote to Vorlon <=-

I am hgaving a ton on issues with mail routing and apparently, as
per the book *it's my config*.

I have setup everything as a normal person would do, checked the
docs and I have 3 node addresses

FSX: 21:3/188
Fido: 3:633/2744.188
Micronet: 618:500/67

[...]

Post a log file sample and what your config setup is. Without that information no one will be able to help.

I finally got it sorted out making some bad blood in the process ...

So..... was it indeed your config, or something else? It's usually good
to provide the solution to problems, so that the next person may not
have to go through the same thing.



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Hello Gamgee!

24 Oct 24 07:52, you wrote to me:

David Gonzalez wrote to Vorlon <=-

I am hgaving a ton on issues with mail routing and apparently,
as per the book *it's my config*.

I have setup everything as a normal person would do, checked the
docs and I have 3 node addresses

FSX: 21:3/188
Fido: 3:633/2744.188
Micronet: 618:500/67

[...]

Post a log file sample and what your config setup is. Without
that information no one will be able to help.

I finally got it sorted out making some bad blood in the process
...

So..... was it indeed your config, or something else? It's usually
good to provide the solution to problems, so that the next person may
not have to go through the same thing.

Apparently but not my mistake but mystic's, it was sending my fiodomail with my fsx AKA and also I had an issue with Golded, I accidentally added a domain @fidonet.org (5D) and @fidonet to try to see if mail went through but it ended up being worse.

I removed all of those from Golded and have not tried net/echo from mystic yet.

Thanks


David


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Hello Gamgee!

24 Oct 24 07:52, you wrote to me:

Apparently but not my mistake but mystic's, it was sending my fiodomail with my fsx AKA and also I had an issue with Golded, I accidentally added a domain @fidonet.org (5D) and @fidonet to try to see if mail went through but it ended up being worse.

I removed all of those from Golded and have not tried net/echo from mystic yet.

Thanks

David

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I would also consciously keep in mind, none of the people assisting are doing this as "their job" (i.e. they are NOT being paid).

I have ran BBSs since the early 90's, and the community is like a brother-hood. While at (MANY) times there are moments of frustration, try to keep in mind that everyone wants to help.

(my 2 cents) take it or leave it.

-StingRay

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Hello StingRay!

24 Oct 24 12:54, you wrote to me:

I removed all of those from Golded and have not tried net/echo from
mystic yet.

Thanks

David

I would also consciously keep in mind, none of the people assisting
are doing this as "their job" (i.e. they are NOT being paid).

Yup, that's what community support means, and don't get me wrong I won't trash or ask for support as somebody suggested, that's why I started looking for solutions myself.

I have ran BBSs since the early 90's, and the community is like a brother-hood. While at (MANY) times there are moments of frustration,
try to keep in mind that everyone wants to help.

Even me, that's why I wrote about GoldED and how to fix some of the stuff I had going on.

(my 2 cents) take it or leave it.

That's how it is, indeed, don't worry thick skin.

-StingRay

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David


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David Gonzalez wrote to Gamgee <=-

I am hgaving a ton on issues with mail routing and apparently,
as per the book *it's my config*.

I have setup everything as a normal person would do, checked the
docs and I have 3 node addresses

FSX: 21:3/188
Fido: 3:633/2744.188
Micronet: 618:500/67

Post a log file sample and what your config setup is. Without
that information no one will be able to help.

I finally got it sorted out making some bad blood in the process
...

So..... was it indeed your config, or something else? It's usually
good to provide the solution to problems, so that the next person may
not have to go through the same thing.

Apparently but not my mistake but mystic's, it was sending my fiodomail with my fsx AKA and also I had an issue with Golded, I accidentally
added a domain @fidonet.org (5D) and @fidonet to try to see if mail
went through but it ended up being worse.

Well, I'd have to say that Mystic was only doing what you configured it
to do... If it was sending Fido mail with the FSX AKA, it must have
been because you configured it that way. There is no other explanation.

Not sure how Golded would have affected that, and wondering why you'd
even want to use that when just starting out. But that's your choice,
and that's OK. Again config problems, though...

I removed all of those from Golded and have not tried net/echo from
mystic yet.

I see. Well, good luck and hope it works. Thanks for the update.



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Hello Gamgee!

24 Oct 24 21:18, you wrote to me:

David Gonzalez wrote to Gamgee <=-

I am hgaving a ton on issues with mail routing and apparently,
as per the book *it's my config*.

I have setup everything as a normal person would do, checked
the docs and I have 3 node addresses

FSX: 21:3/188
Fido: 3:633/2744.188
Micronet: 618:500/67

Post a log file sample and what your config setup is. Without
that information no one will be able to help.

I finally got it sorted out making some bad blood in the process
...

So..... was it indeed your config, or something else? It's
usually good to provide the solution to problems, so that the
next person may not have to go through the same thing.

Apparently but not my mistake but mystic's, it was sending my
fiodomail with my fsx AKA and also I had an issue with Golded, I
accidentally added a domain @fidonet.org (5D) and @fidonet to try
to see if mail went through but it ended up being worse.

Well, I'd have to say that Mystic was only doing what you configured
it to do... If it was sending Fido mail with the FSX AKA, it must
have been because you configured it that way. There is no other explanation.

No, I think it was something to do with my uplink too, I was presenting all my AKAs and it would reject mail, then I had to create separate events to poll with 1 AKA first, then the other, but yeah I get what you say and respect it.

Not sure how Golded would have affected that, and wondering why you'd
even want to use that when just starting out. But that's your choice,
and that's OK. Again config problems, though...

That was my setup back in the 90s, FD+Fastecho+RA+GoldED.

I removed all of those from Golded and have not tried net/echo
from mystic yet.

I see. Well, good luck and hope it works. Thanks for the update.

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David


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Re: Mail routing issues
By: David Gonzalez to Gamgee on Thu Oct 24 2024 09:35 pm

Howdy,

No, I think it was something to do with my uplink too, I was presenting all my AKAs and it would reject mail, then I had to create separate events to poll with 1 AKA first, then the other, but yeah I get what you say and respect it.

Nope, I dont think you are correct there.

The suggestion to "hide AKAs" and poll individually was to ensure that presenting multiple AKAs wasnt affecting how I process your mail - since I process mail on the fly as it is received, based on the authenticated AKAs.

As I explained to you via email/netmail - I wanted to illiminate if this code was the cause of the incorrect processing of mail (it wasnt). Its the first time I had a point address point being presented and that part of the code hasnt been tested. (I have other users collect mail from multiple networks, and they present all AKAs at the same time.)

So, upon review your tosser (mystic) was packing messages with your FSXnet AKA when the message was destined to fidonet.

Here is an example, a fidonet netmail packet 0cfcde35.pkt, received by you in mail bundle fd8af604.mo8, which your system sent at 21 Oct 2024 21:56:27 -0500:

00000000 bc 00 b8 0a e8 07 09 00 15 00 15 00 38 00 19 00 |............8...| 00000010 00 00 02 00 03 00 79 02 fe 00 xx xx xx xx xx xx |......y...xxxxxx| 00000020 xx xx 15 00 03 00 00 00 00 01 fe 00 01 00 15 00 |xx..............| 00000030 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 bc 00 00 00 |................| 00000040 03 00 5c 00 03 01 00 00 32 31 20 4f 63 74 20 32 |..\.....21 Oct 2| 00000050 34 20 20 32 31 3a 35 35 3a 32 39 00 61 64 6d 69 |4 21:55:29.admi|

This packet is from 0x0015:0x0003/0x00bc (21:3/188) to 0x0003:0x0279/0x0ab8 (3:633/2744) - and during that session you only presented your fido AKA.

You can refer to the respective FTS document to understand the format of the packet.

My system rejected the packet, because the source address, is not in the same domain as the target address (the domain was set to fidonet, because that's the address you authenticated with during the session). The INTL kludge was also incorrect.

As I explained, you had configuration problem, which I think you might have fixed.


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