Are a NZ Rugby team that my country seems to either love or hate...
right now it's more a vibe of 'sack the coach' because the team has lost some games more recently than in many other years prior.
I enjoy watching some of this sport but I'm not a hardcore fan or anything.
I just can't get over how people can get so wound up about a team that does not win every single time but some think they should be doning/able to.
It's the same here in the States. What cured me of it was coaching my kids in both ice hockey and soccer. (I know! Should be "football" like the rest of the world!)
Having started out with very young (under 5) to high school (under 19) gave me a much better appreciation for coaches AND referees. Everyone should take a stint at both.
gave me a much better appreciation for coaches AND referees. Everyon should take a stint at both.
I have seen Parents argue/fight with their own coaches, other coaches, REFS, and even worse of all start yelling stuff to kids on the other
team.
It's the same here in the States. What cured me of it was coaching my kids in both ice hockey and soccer. (I know! Should be "football" like the rest of the world!)
Having started out with very young (under 5) to high school (under 19) gave me a much better appreciation for coaches AND referees. Everyone should take a stint at both.
gave me a much better appreciation for coaches AND referees. Ev
Unfortunately I came from a Town that most other towns didnt even want
to play us in sports in high school and Little League because most of
the parents were out of control. It was quite embarrassing.
I too coached my son from age 6 till he was 21 in Baseball and for 3
years in Football.. The crap I put up with at the younger ages was pitiful! I had parents pissing on me because I played their son where he belonged and not where they wanted him. All kids are shortstops in their fathers eyes.. Worst I got was a father called me out during a game,
came into my dugout during the game and started pissing on me because
his son was on the bench. Screaming like a lunatic! The umpire finally called Time out and told the father to get out of the dugout. I said Ok
I put his kid at shortstop the next inning, we were getting our butts handed to us anyway. First ground ball hit to him goes between his legs. The next pitch, the kid on first takes off for 2nd, and the "shortstop"
is standing on 2nd base and didn't catch the throw down! I looked at the father and shook my head! After the game I took the father into the parking lot and told him point blank his son will NEVER play shortstop again, nor will he play the infield because his son can not catch a ball or field a ground ball! If he doesn't like it too damn bad! Then I told him point blank next time he comes in my dugout yelling at me he better
be ready to back up his words because we will come back out to this parking lot and settle it like men! He never said another word to me. I never drafted his kid again either, even though the kids mother asked me to
Jeez..
Most adults, unfortunately, get so into sports, they ruin the game for their kids.
I have seen Parents argue/fight with their own coaches, other coaches, REFS, and even worse of all start yelling stuff to kids on the other
team.
It's amazes me what you have to learn as a coach that's not related to
the sport. Parent management should be discussed in every leagues' pre-season coaches meeting.
had to take a D2 partial scholarship.. He never made it because he tore his labrum in the fall of his freshman campaign.. Which took about 20mph off his fastball because he was not diagnosed correctly.. The thing that
It's amazes me what you have to learn as a coach that's not related to
the sport. Parent management should be discussed in every leagues' pre-season coaches meeting.
that? " I said yea! That kid saw me about 5 years ago, he came over to me s
..., the parents were banking on her getting a scholarship which she didnt get, ...This is far too common unfortunately.
Thats horrible. Never fun to put that much work into something to have
it all taken away in basically minutes. I hope hes doing well now tho. Theres a lot more to life than sports.
I bowled on a team, we had a younger guy on the team I became good
friends with, he informed me he had 2 guys from his high school
graduation class that were playing minor league baseball, Matt Harvey
and Jesse Hahn. So I followed both of these guys while they were in the minors, thought it was cool they lived 15 mins from me. Jesse Hahn would even stop at the bowling alley many times since he was good friends with the guy on my team. Of course if you followed baseball at all, you would most likely know who Matt Harvey is.
Unfortunately, a lot of kids careers are cut short too, with injuries later on that were created when they were younger by being pitched too much, usually the coaches fault or the parents fault. The kid pays the price.
that? " I said yea! That kid saw me about 5 years ago, he came over t s
It's things like this that kept me coaching!
I blame myself for my sons injury.. I pitched him too much when he was young.. Little league wasn't the issue as there were rules. But Modified baseball and 1 Little league game was my undoing. His first complete
game at 11 he tossed 155 pitches. His last game as a modified pitcher
for the school he threw 132 pitches, both of them were my fault, the modified game he had a no hitter going into the 7th and I was keeping a pitch count. He started the inning with 115 pitches, the coach looked at me and I said he's got a no no going, let him go. When he hit 128
pitches he hit the wall. He couldn't find the plate and his elbow was
way down. I looked at the coach and he knew, he pulled him. He got a combined no hitter but it wasn't the same.. LOL it would have been his
4th of his career.. Still went down as a No HItter though.
He is doing fine, got his college education and is working in the
computer industry. Nothing beats a partially free education.. LOL
I guess its a good thing they are educating parents/coaches on this a
lot more now. When I posted my message I didnt mean to make it sound
like the coach or parent is actually trying to harm the kid playing. And
I dont think I would have let my dad take me out if I had a no hitter going. So its tough. You want the best for your kid and hoping he gets
the best and sometimes maybe you can possibly go too far not knowing
it.
I didn't take it that way, so now worries.. In fact, I think pitchers today are babied to much. I became friends with Kent Tekulve of the
THing that makes me question this is there are a ton more injuries today then there were yesteryear..
stretch out their arms. The only difference was after the season instead of throwing pens and working out, they sold insurance to pay the bills
and did not pitch until spring training. Todays youth throw every 3 days
Exactly, the rules are in favor of the kids supposedly, but who knows, maybe its better to just let them throw. As I mentioned above, If we werent on the basketball court outside at a school a few houses away the whole day, we were throwing baseballs, playing wuffle ball or whatever.Could it be that when we were young, we had multiple sports/activities that we would do. Now, I read about kids, after their season, going to specialized camps/clinics for "their" sport. Different activities give the muscles rest while using others.
Im not a doctor so I really dont know but it is weird, the kids are protected more and all you hear about is injuries more and more now.
Could it be that when we were young, we had multiple sports/activities that we would do. Now, I read about kids, after their season, going to specialized camps/clinics for "their" sport. Different activities give the muscles rest while using others.
I actually believe that too. When I was a kid we were outside all the time. So even if the Little League had a pitch count, we were throwing everyday in the back yard.
Exactly, the rules are in favor of the kids supposedly, but who knows, maybe its better to just let them throw. As I mentioned above, If we werent on the basketball court outside at a school a few houses away the whole day, we were throwing baseballs, playing wuffle ball or whatever.
Im not a doctor so I really dont know but it is weird, the kids are protected more and all you hear about is injuries more and more now.
Isnt that amazing!! It could be just me, but I feel the sports stars I grew up watching deserve a lot more money than the stars of today. Not
to just be negative, but almost all sports these days are a watered down version of what they use to be. Of course peoples safety should become
#1 priority over a sport, but "C'mon Man", let them play.
Could it be that when we were young, we had multiple sports/activities that we would do. Now, I read about kids, after their season, going to specialized camps/clinics for "their" sport. Different activities give the muscles rest while using others.
On 09-03-22 10:20, Avon wrote to All <=-
Are a NZ Rugby team that my country seems to either love or hate...
right now it's more a vibe of 'sack the coach' because the team has
lost some games more recently than in many other years prior.
On 09-02-22 19:02, ogg wrote to Avon <=-
It's the same here in the States. What cured me of it was coaching my kids in both ice hockey and soccer. (I know! Should be "football" like the rest of the world!)
Having started out with very young (under 5) to high school (under 19) gave me a much better appreciation for coaches AND referees. Everyone should take a stint at both.
On 09-04-22 08:53, Irish_Monk wrote to Avon <=-
Most adults, unfortunately, get so into sports, they ruin the game for their kids.
I have seen Parents argue/fight with their own coaches, other coaches, REFS, and even worse of all start yelling stuff to kids on the other
team.
On 09-04-22 09:07, ogg wrote to Irish_Monk <=-
Was coaching in a brand new program. The ice rink wasn't even a month old. Had a dad approach me and ask why we weren't doing this or that.
I told him that we were always looking for help and he was welcome to
join us on the ice. He immediately backed off and basically said he couldn't skate. I've always found that if you can get the parent to commit to helping for even a few practices, it changes their tune.
On 09-05-22 15:57, Avon wrote to Irish_Monk <=-
Equally there are efforts to educate parents to encourage them to focus
on the spirit of competition and not at the expense of win at all
costs..
On 09-06-22 19:04, ogg wrote to Irish_Monk <=-
Could it be that when we were young, we had multiple sports/activities that we would do. Now, I read about kids, after their season, going to specialized camps/clinics for "their" sport. Different activities give the muscles rest while using others.
There has been a push here to try and clean up the behaviour of parents
at junior sport in recent years.
On 09-10-22 08:51, Irish_Monk wrote to Vk3jed <=-
There has been a push here to try and clean up the behaviour of parents
at junior sport in recent years.
Yeah, they have been doing the same thing around here too. They have really locked down on it, kicking parents out of games if they are out
of control. Im 44 years old, when I was growing up I can only remember
a few incidents of parents somewhat getting out of control. We really
live in a different world these days though. Unfortunately not better.
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