• All Blacks

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Sat Sep 3 10:20:43 2022
    Are a NZ Rugby team that my country seems to either love or hate... right now it's more a vibe of 'sack the coach' because the team has lost some games more recently than in many other years prior.

    I enjoy watching some of this sport but I'm not a hardcore fan or anything.

    I just can't get over how people can get so wound up about a team that does not win every single time but some think they should be doning/able to.

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Avon on Fri Sep 2 19:02:57 2022
    On 03 Sep 2022, Avon said the following...

    Are a NZ Rugby team that my country seems to either love or hate...
    right now it's more a vibe of 'sack the coach' because the team has lost some games more recently than in many other years prior.

    I enjoy watching some of this sport but I'm not a hardcore fan or anything.

    I just can't get over how people can get so wound up about a team that does not win every single time but some think they should be doning/able to.


    It's the same here in the States. What cured me of it was coaching my kids in both ice hockey and soccer. (I know! Should be "football" like the rest of the world!)

    Having started out with very young (under 5) to high school (under 19) gave me a much better appreciation for coaches AND referees. Everyone should take a stint at both.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to ogg on Sun Sep 4 17:10:54 2022
    On 02 Sep 2022 at 07:02p, ogg pondered and said...

    It's the same here in the States. What cured me of it was coaching my kids in both ice hockey and soccer. (I know! Should be "football" like the rest of the world!)

    Having started out with very young (under 5) to high school (under 19) gave me a much better appreciation for coaches AND referees. Everyone should take a stint at both.

    Good on you for helping the kids I say :)

    Best, Paul

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to Avon on Sun Sep 4 08:53:05 2022
    gave me a much better appreciation for coaches AND referees. Everyon should take a stint at both.

    Unfortunately I came from a Town that most other towns didnt even want to play us in sports in high school and Little League because most of the parents were out of control. It was quite embarrassing.

    My wife and I actually use to sit with the opposite teams to watch the games beause of this. Or if it was softball, we would just be along the fence in the outfield where nobody was.

    Most adults, unfortunately, get so into sports, they ruin the game for their kids.

    I have seen Parents argue/fight with their own coaches, other coaches, REFS, and even worse of all start yelling stuff to kids on the other team.

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Irish_Monk on Sun Sep 4 09:07:01 2022

    I have seen Parents argue/fight with their own coaches, other coaches, REFS, and even worse of all start yelling stuff to kids on the other
    team.

    Was coaching in a brand new program. The ice rink wasn't even a month old. Had a dad approach me and ask why we weren't doing this or that. I told him that we were always looking for help and he was welcome to join us on the ice.
    He immediately backed off and basically said he couldn't skate. I've always found that if you can get the parent to commit to helping for even a few practices, it changes their tune.

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to ogg on Sun Sep 4 22:34:23 2022
    On 02 Sep 2022, ogg said the following...


    It's the same here in the States. What cured me of it was coaching my kids in both ice hockey and soccer. (I know! Should be "football" like the rest of the world!)

    Having started out with very young (under 5) to high school (under 19) gave me a much better appreciation for coaches AND referees. Everyone should take a stint at both.


    I too coached my son from age 6 till he was 21 in Baseball and for 3 years in Football.. The crap I put up with at the younger ages was pitiful! I had parents pissing on me because I played their son where he belonged and not where they wanted him. All kids are shortstops in their fathers eyes.. Worst I got was a father called me out during a game, came into my dugout during the game and started pissing on me because his son was on the bench. Screaming like a lunatic! The umpire finally called Time out and told the father to get out of the dugout. I said Ok I put his kid at shortstop the next inning, we were getting our butts handed to us anyway. First ground ball hit to him goes between his legs. The next pitch, the kid on first takes off for 2nd, and the "shortstop" is standing on 2nd base and didn't catch the throw down! I looked at the father and shook my head! After the game I took the father into the parking lot and told him point blank his son will NEVER play shortstop again, nor will he play the infield because his son can not catch a ball or field a ground ball! If he doesn't like it too damn bad! Then I told him point blank next time he comes in my dugout yelling at me he better be ready to back up his words because we will come back out to this parking lot and settle it like men! He never said another word to me. I never drafted his kid again either, even though the kids mother asked me to because he liked playing for me!

    Jeez..

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Irish_Monk on Sun Sep 4 22:40:28 2022
    On 04 Sep 2022, Irish_Monk said the following...

    gave me a much better appreciation for coaches AND referees. Ev

    Unfortunately I came from a Town that most other towns didnt even want
    to play us in sports in high school and Little League because most of
    the parents were out of control. It was quite embarrassing.


    When my son got to the High School level, I did the same thing, used to sit out in left field against the fence.. I couldn't take the parents anymore.. My son was a pitcher and was projected to be a draft pick after College, he had a 86mph fastball at 16, and University of North Carolina had him projected to be in the high upper 90's by Senior year of college (the kid was 6'6 with a solid body). My local town didn't like it that he was being scouted and their kids weren't! They would make shitty comments all the time, thus the reason I would stand in left field.. He was offered a scholarship at 16 to UNC, which was contingent on his senior season of High School.. As soon as the call came in for his schedule and when he would be pitching my kid was not played. So he had to take a D2 partial scholarship.. He never made it because he tore his labrum in the fall of his freshman campaign.. Which took about 20mph off his fastball because he was not diagnosed correctly.. The thing that gets me is parents need to get a grip. So do coaches! They should be happy for kids doing good, not upset that someone else is getting what they want their kid to get.. Ah such is life..

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Bucko on Sun Sep 4 22:28:46 2022
    I too coached my son from age 6 till he was 21 in Baseball and for 3
    years in Football.. The crap I put up with at the younger ages was pitiful! I had parents pissing on me because I played their son where he belonged and not where they wanted him. All kids are shortstops in their fathers eyes.. Worst I got was a father called me out during a game,
    came into my dugout during the game and started pissing on me because
    his son was on the bench. Screaming like a lunatic! The umpire finally called Time out and told the father to get out of the dugout. I said Ok
    I put his kid at shortstop the next inning, we were getting our butts handed to us anyway. First ground ball hit to him goes between his legs. The next pitch, the kid on first takes off for 2nd, and the "shortstop"
    is standing on 2nd base and didn't catch the throw down! I looked at the father and shook my head! After the game I took the father into the parking lot and told him point blank his son will NEVER play shortstop again, nor will he play the infield because his son can not catch a ball or field a ground ball! If he doesn't like it too damn bad! Then I told him point blank next time he comes in my dugout yelling at me he better
    be ready to back up his words because we will come back out to this parking lot and settle it like men! He never said another word to me. I never drafted his kid again either, even though the kids mother asked me to

    Jeez..

    It's amazes me what you have to learn as a coach that's not related to the sport. Parent management should be discussed in every leagues' pre-season coaches meeting.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Irish_Monk on Mon Sep 5 15:57:07 2022
    On 04 Sep 2022 at 08:53a, Irish_Monk pondered and said...

    Most adults, unfortunately, get so into sports, they ruin the game for their kids.

    I have seen Parents argue/fight with their own coaches, other coaches, REFS, and even worse of all start yelling stuff to kids on the other
    team.

    I've seen this sort of thing over here too... it's not great.

    Equally there are efforts to educate parents to encourage them to focus on the spirit of competition and not at the expense of win at all costs..

    Best, Paul

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to ogg on Mon Sep 5 08:19:53 2022

    On 04 Sep 2022, ogg said the following...

    It's amazes me what you have to learn as a coach that's not related to
    the sport. Parent management should be discussed in every leagues' pre-season coaches meeting.


    I agree. When I became a board member of my local Babe Ruth league I installed a parent meeting for all parents that was mandatory. They came and I discussed with them behavior during games, (we were a very laid back league everyone plays etc.) this was installed right after that Hockey dad killed the coach in another state.. They all had to sign codes of conduct including their child. You know what? Everyone had a good time, everyone played different positions, in fact 1 kid on my team became a high school pitcher after not pitching a game in his life! I tossed the kid on the mound and told him have fun! Turned out he had excellent control and a really good fastball!! The following year when the freshman team was having tryouts I told the kid to try out and he said he wasn't good enough but would try anyway. I called the coach who I knew from previous years and told him to look at this kid as a pitcher. The coach tried him out as a pitcher and he made the team! In fact he pitched 4 years for the school. This kids father was a mental case during little league in fact when I threw the kid on the mound in Babe Ruth the father walked over and said " You sure you want to do that? " I said yea! That kid saw me about 5 years ago, he came over to me shook my hand and thanked me for everything I did for him!

    It's those things that parents don't see.. Ah I am rambling..

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to Bucko on Mon Sep 5 08:36:16 2022
    had to take a D2 partial scholarship.. He never made it because he tore his labrum in the fall of his freshman campaign.. Which took about 20mph off his fastball because he was not diagnosed correctly.. The thing that

    Thats horrible. Never fun to put that much work into something to have it all taken away in basically minutes. I hope hes doing well now tho. Theres a lot more to life than sports.

    I bowled on a team, we had a younger guy on the team I became good friends with, he informed me he had 2 guys from his high school graduation class that were playing minor league baseball, Matt Harvey and Jesse Hahn. So I followed both of these guys while they were in the minors, thought it was cool they lived 15 mins from me. Jesse Hahn would even stop at the bowling alley many times since he was good friends with the guy on my team. Of course if you followed baseball at all, you would most likely know who Matt Harvey is.

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to ogg on Mon Sep 5 08:42:16 2022
    It's amazes me what you have to learn as a coach that's not related to
    the sport. Parent management should be discussed in every leagues' pre-season coaches meeting.

    Unfortunately, a lot of kids careers are cut short too, with injuries later on that were created when they were younger by being pitched too much, usually the coaches fault or the parents fault. The kid pays the price.

    I had 3 daughters on the All-Star team, all at once. Both years they made it to the furthest point you could go. (I think Regionals for that age, 11 and 12 year olds,) They had a good team, but the thing that helped them the most is they had an 11 year old girl throwing around 70 underhand. She basically pitched no hitter after no hitter, or maybe the other team would get luck and get a hit or 2. By the time high school came around she already started having shoulder injuries, the parents were banking on her getting a scholarship which she didnt get, so they paid out of pocket for her to go to UCONN which she almost never played and was injured the whole time. Most likely from being pitched everyday possible from ages 10-15.

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Bucko on Mon Sep 5 08:10:59 2022
    that? " I said yea! That kid saw me about 5 years ago, he came over to me s

    It's things like this that kept me coaching!

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Irish_Monk on Mon Sep 5 08:16:34 2022
    ..., the parents were banking on her getting a scholarship which she didnt get, ...
    This is far too common unfortunately.

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Irish_Monk on Mon Sep 5 19:57:29 2022
    On 05 Sep 2022, Irish_Monk said the following...


    Thats horrible. Never fun to put that much work into something to have
    it all taken away in basically minutes. I hope hes doing well now tho. Theres a lot more to life than sports.


    He is doing fine, got his college education and is working in the computer industry. Nothing beats a partially free education.. LOL

    I bowled on a team, we had a younger guy on the team I became good
    friends with, he informed me he had 2 guys from his high school
    graduation class that were playing minor league baseball, Matt Harvey
    and Jesse Hahn. So I followed both of these guys while they were in the minors, thought it was cool they lived 15 mins from me. Jesse Hahn would even stop at the bowling alley many times since he was good friends with the guy on my team. Of course if you followed baseball at all, you would most likely know who Matt Harvey is.


    That is great. When my son was playing he worked out of a cage in Norwalk CT, His pitching trainer was there also, he was a former Major Leaguer Kevin Morton, he pitched for the Red Sox for a couple of years till a back injury took away his career.. My kid worked with a lot of great major Leaguers George Foster briefly, Willie Upshaw, were the two most people will know. Willie was the best as my kid had a hard time with his batting. Willie worked with him for 5 minutes and figured out the issue immediately, just a slight turn of the head and he was hitting 400ft bombs! LOL I think the best person was a 5 minute conversation with Mariano Rivera, my kid umpired locally to where Mariano lived, last out was a bang bang play at first and my kid called the runner out. After the game the head of the umpires brought Mariano over to my son to sign a ball for him. They got to talking and Mariano seeing his size 6'5 at the time at 14 years old, asked him if he played and my kid said yes, he was a pitcher also. Mariano spent the next 5 minutes showing him the grips of his out pitch the cutter, and the release point etc. In other words he taught him how to throw his cutter! The faster it was thrown the nastier it was! Sad or not so sad thing was after his injury and the loss of velocity the cutter was even more dangerous as it just moved when it hit the plate and was very difficult for both the batter and the catcher to see.. Jeez..

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Irish_Monk on Mon Sep 5 20:01:51 2022
    On 05 Sep 2022, Irish_Monk said the following...


    Unfortunately, a lot of kids careers are cut short too, with injuries later on that were created when they were younger by being pitched too much, usually the coaches fault or the parents fault. The kid pays the price.

    I blame myself for my sons injury.. I pitched him too much when he was young.. Little league wasn't the issue as there were rules. But Modified baseball and 1 Little league game was my undoing. His first complete game at 11 he tossed 155 pitches. His last game as a modified pitcher for the school he threw 132 pitches, both of them were my fault, the modified game he had a no hitter going into the 7th and I was keeping a pitch count. He started the inning with 115 pitches, the coach looked at me and I said he's got a no no going, let him go. When he hit 128 pitches he hit the wall. He couldn't find the plate and his elbow was way down. I looked at the coach and he knew, he pulled him. He got a combined no hitter but it wasn't the same.. LOL it would have been his 4th of his career.. Still went down as a No HItter though..

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to ogg on Mon Sep 5 20:03:14 2022
    On 05 Sep 2022, ogg said the following...

    that? " I said yea! That kid saw me about 5 years ago, he came over t s

    It's things like this that kept me coaching!

    It's things like this that have kept me going to watch games! I was offered a coaching job about 10 or so years ago for the school modified team. If I was working at a job that I could leave when I wanted I would have taken it, but I couldn't, so I turned it down. Loved coaching that much!

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to Bucko on Mon Sep 5 21:02:21 2022
    I blame myself for my sons injury.. I pitched him too much when he was young.. Little league wasn't the issue as there were rules. But Modified baseball and 1 Little league game was my undoing. His first complete
    game at 11 he tossed 155 pitches. His last game as a modified pitcher
    for the school he threw 132 pitches, both of them were my fault, the modified game he had a no hitter going into the 7th and I was keeping a pitch count. He started the inning with 115 pitches, the coach looked at me and I said he's got a no no going, let him go. When he hit 128
    pitches he hit the wall. He couldn't find the plate and his elbow was
    way down. I looked at the coach and he knew, he pulled him. He got a combined no hitter but it wasn't the same.. LOL it would have been his
    4th of his career.. Still went down as a No HItter though.

    I guess its a good thing they are educating parents/coaches on this a lot more now. When I posted my message I didnt mean to make it sound like the coach or parent is actually trying to harm the kid playing. And I dont think I would have let my dad take me out if I had a no hitter going. So its tough. You want the best for your kid and hoping he gets the best and sometimes maybe you can possibly go too far not knowing it.

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to Bucko on Mon Sep 5 21:03:01 2022
    He is doing fine, got his college education and is working in the
    computer industry. Nothing beats a partially free education.. LOL

    Good to hear!!

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Irish_Monk on Tue Sep 6 18:12:14 2022
    On 05 Sep 2022, Irish_Monk said the following...

    I guess its a good thing they are educating parents/coaches on this a
    lot more now. When I posted my message I didnt mean to make it sound
    like the coach or parent is actually trying to harm the kid playing. And
    I dont think I would have let my dad take me out if I had a no hitter going. So its tough. You want the best for your kid and hoping he gets
    the best and sometimes maybe you can possibly go too far not knowing
    it.


    I didn't take it that way, so now worries.. In fact, I think pitchers today are babied to much. I became friends with Kent Tekulve of the Pirates years ago by accident. I asked him about todays pitcher, and how it was when he was growing up, he mentioned Nolan Ryan would throw upwards of 170 pitches every game, Bob Gibson would throw 200 pitches in a game! It was nothing and 2 days later they were long tossing to stretch out their arms. The only difference was after the season instead of throwing pens and working out, they sold insurance to pay the bills and did not pitch until spring training. Todays youth throw every 3 days or so, in my kids case I had a regiment which was told to me by a former pitcher in the Phillies organization pitch on day 1 rest on day 2, long toss on day 3, full pen on day 4, box pen on day 5 pitch on day 6.. This worked for yesteryears pitchers, todays pitcher pitches on day 1 takes off day 2 and 3 long tosses on day 4 pen on day 5 and pitches on day 6.. THing that makes me question this is there are a ton more injuries today then there were yesteryear..

    Oh well..

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to Bucko on Tue Sep 6 18:32:58 2022
    I didn't take it that way, so now worries.. In fact, I think pitchers today are babied to much. I became friends with Kent Tekulve of the

    I actually believe that too. When I was a kid we were outside all the time. So even if the Little League had a pitch count, we were throwing everyday in the back yard.

    THing that makes me question this is there are a ton more injuries today then there were yesteryear..

    Exactly, the rules are in favor of the kids supposedly, but who knows, maybe its better to just let them throw. As I mentioned above, If we werent on the basketball court outside at a school a few houses away the whole day, we were throwing baseballs, playing wuffle ball or whatever. Im not a doctor so I really dont know but it is weird, the kids are protected more and all you hear about is injuries more and more now.

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to Bucko on Tue Sep 6 18:36:48 2022
    stretch out their arms. The only difference was after the season instead of throwing pens and working out, they sold insurance to pay the bills
    and did not pitch until spring training. Todays youth throw every 3 days

    Isnt that amazing!! It could be just me, but I feel the sports stars I grew up watching deserve a lot more money than the stars of today. Not to just be negative, but almost all sports these days are a watered down version of what they use to be. Of course peoples safety should become #1 priority over a sport, but "C'mon Man", let them play.

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Irish_Monk on Tue Sep 6 19:04:20 2022
    Exactly, the rules are in favor of the kids supposedly, but who knows, maybe its better to just let them throw. As I mentioned above, If we werent on the basketball court outside at a school a few houses away the whole day, we were throwing baseballs, playing wuffle ball or whatever.
    Im not a doctor so I really dont know but it is weird, the kids are protected more and all you hear about is injuries more and more now.
    Could it be that when we were young, we had multiple sports/activities that we would do. Now, I read about kids, after their season, going to specialized camps/clinics for "their" sport. Different activities give the muscles rest while using others.

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to ogg on Tue Sep 6 20:31:22 2022
    Could it be that when we were young, we had multiple sports/activities that we would do. Now, I read about kids, after their season, going to specialized camps/clinics for "their" sport. Different activities give the muscles rest while using others.

    Really good point there!!! I would have to say that makes total sense to me.

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Irish_Monk on Tue Sep 6 21:44:01 2022
    On 06 Sep 2022, Irish_Monk said the following...


    I actually believe that too. When I was a kid we were outside all the time. So even if the Little League had a pitch count, we were throwing everyday in the back yard.


    You and me both, we shot hoops just about every day of the week, we played whiffle ball, kick ball, you name it. My brother who was a pitcher threw every day of the week with my father. You never heard of Labrums being torn, Tommy John Surgeries etc..


    Exactly, the rules are in favor of the kids supposedly, but who knows, maybe its better to just let them throw. As I mentioned above, If we werent on the basketball court outside at a school a few houses away the whole day, we were throwing baseballs, playing wuffle ball or whatever.
    Im not a doctor so I really dont know but it is weird, the kids are protected more and all you hear about is injuries more and more now.


    Agreed... Who knows.

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Irish_Monk on Tue Sep 6 21:44:48 2022
    On 06 Sep 2022, Irish_Monk said the following...

    Isnt that amazing!! It could be just me, but I feel the sports stars I grew up watching deserve a lot more money than the stars of today. Not
    to just be negative, but almost all sports these days are a watered down version of what they use to be. Of course peoples safety should become
    #1 priority over a sport, but "C'mon Man", let them play.


    Totally agree!!

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to ogg on Tue Sep 6 21:47:49 2022
    On 06 Sep 2022, ogg said the following...
    Could it be that when we were young, we had multiple sports/activities that we would do. Now, I read about kids, after their season, going to specialized camps/clinics for "their" sport. Different activities give the muscles rest while using others.

    Absolutely!! When I played ball I played baseball from April till August, then football from September through November, then basketball till March, took off march and went back to baseball. I never played baseball year round. My son played it year round, my fault for not pushing more for other sports. His career was cut short by injuries, So I think you are on to something..

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Wed Sep 7 20:41:00 2022
    On 09-03-22 10:20, Avon wrote to All <=-

    Are a NZ Rugby team that my country seems to either love or hate...
    right now it's more a vibe of 'sack the coach' because the team has
    lost some games more recently than in many other years prior.

    By any standards, the All Blacks have been a very impressive team for many years, but they are only human, and can't win every match, given a long enough period of time.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to ogg on Wed Sep 7 20:43:00 2022
    On 09-02-22 19:02, ogg wrote to Avon <=-


    It's the same here in the States. What cured me of it was coaching my kids in both ice hockey and soccer. (I know! Should be "football" like the rest of the world!)

    Having started out with very young (under 5) to high school (under 19) gave me a much better appreciation for coaches AND referees. Everyone should take a stint at both.

    My own experience as an athlete have also given me an appreciation for the realities of sport, both individual and team. I have also officiated in sport, and that gives a totally different aspect. It's amazing who will try and put one over the officials. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Irish_Monk on Wed Sep 7 20:47:00 2022
    On 09-04-22 08:53, Irish_Monk wrote to Avon <=-

    Most adults, unfortunately, get so into sports, they ruin the game for their kids.

    That's a shame, and of course, these adults don't actually _play_.sport.

    I have seen Parents argue/fight with their own coaches, other coaches, REFS, and even worse of all start yelling stuff to kids on the other
    team.

    There has been a push here to try and clean up the behaviour of parents at junior sport in recent years.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to ogg on Wed Sep 7 20:54:00 2022
    On 09-04-22 09:07, ogg wrote to Irish_Monk <=-

    Was coaching in a brand new program. The ice rink wasn't even a month old. Had a dad approach me and ask why we weren't doing this or that.
    I told him that we were always looking for help and he was welcome to
    join us on the ice. He immediately backed off and basically said he couldn't skate. I've always found that if you can get the parent to commit to helping for even a few practices, it changes their tune.

    Yep, getting them involved can help. With some individual sports, parents may even take it up, because of their kids, and it often works out well for everyone. Other parents simply volunteer. Athletics is one individual sport where parents frequently get involved, either because of their kids, or their previous participation got their kids hooked. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Wed Sep 7 20:59:00 2022
    On 09-05-22 15:57, Avon wrote to Irish_Monk <=-

    Equally there are efforts to educate parents to encourage them to focus
    on the spirit of competition and not at the expense of win at all
    costs..

    There's a lot of focus on this aspect over here as well.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to ogg on Wed Sep 7 21:08:00 2022
    On 09-06-22 19:04, ogg wrote to Irish_Monk <=-

    Could it be that when we were young, we had multiple sports/activities that we would do. Now, I read about kids, after their season, going to specialized camps/clinics for "their" sport. Different activities give the muscles rest while using others.

    I think you're on to something. Varying the activities and loads can help prevent overuse injuries. As a specialist (sprinter), myself, this is something I have to manage, and part of my annual cycle involved a complete break for any high speed running, along with a break from formal gym workouts. The gym break is typically 4 weeks, and the break from speed can be up to 3 months (with longer, slower runs instead).


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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to Vk3jed on Sat Sep 10 08:51:51 2022
    There has been a push here to try and clean up the behaviour of parents
    at junior sport in recent years.

    Yeah, they have been doing the same thing around here too. They have really locked down on it, kicking parents out of games if they are out of control. Im 44 years old, when I was growing up I can only remember a few incidents of parents somewhat getting out of control. We really live in a different world these days though. Unfortunately not better.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Irish_Monk on Mon Sep 12 20:10:00 2022
    On 09-10-22 08:51, Irish_Monk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    There has been a push here to try and clean up the behaviour of parents
    at junior sport in recent years.

    Yeah, they have been doing the same thing around here too. They have really locked down on it, kicking parents out of games if they are out
    of control. Im 44 years old, when I was growing up I can only remember
    a few incidents of parents somewhat getting out of control. We really
    live in a different world these days though. Unfortunately not better.

    Yeah, always some issue or other with the world. :/


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